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Nice compliment for the Heinen's.....

 

Cities And Money: Iconic Buildings For Sale

by Zach Bergson  March 13, 2015

 

Cleveland Trust Rotunda

Cleveland, Ohio

Sold December 2012, along with a group of other buildings, for $27 million

Current Use: Grocery store

 

The Cleveland Trust Rotunda, later known as the Ameritrust Bank, was built in 1908l. It became vacant in the 1990s and remained that way until it was sold to The Geis Companies in 2012, which then leased it to Heinen’s supermarket. It’s safe to say that it’s now one of the nicest markets in the world.

 

https://businessjournalism.org/2015/03/cities-and-money-iconic-buildings-for-sale/


"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."-Voltaire

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From the article:  "It’s safe to say that it’s now one of the nicest markets in the world." 

 

I think we would all agree!

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From the article:  "It’s safe to say that it’s now one of the nicest markets in the world." 

 

I think we would all agree!

 

Nice compliment for the Heinen's.....

 

Cities And Money: Iconic Buildings For Sale

by Zach Bergson  March 13, 2015

 

Cleveland Trust Rotunda

Cleveland, Ohio

Sold December 2012, along with a group of other buildings, for $27 million

Current Use: Grocery store

 

The Cleveland Trust Rotunda, later known as the Ameritrust Bank, was built in 1908l. It became vacant in the 1990s and remained that way until it was sold to The Geis Companies in 2012, which then leased it to Heinen’s supermarket. It’s safe to say that it’s now one of the nicest markets in the world.

 

https://businessjournalism.org/2015/03/cities-and-money-iconic-buildings-for-sale/

 

I'm laughing at them calling the London skyscraper the Gherkin like that's its official name.

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The 9's rooftop bar and lounge to open May 2

By CRAIN'S CLEVELAND BUSINESS

April 13, 2015 11:10 AM

 

Summer is coming, and The 9 is ready to celebrate it with the opening of its rooftop bar and lounge, Azure.

 

Azure, located above The 9’s building at 1010 Euclid Ave., will open Saturday, May 2. It’s more than 8,500 square feet, which The 9’s operators say makes it the largest rooftop bar in downtown Cleveland.

 

"Azure is the final piece of The 9's puzzle," said Keith Halfmann, chief operating officer of Geis Hospitality Group, in a news release. "Azure provides an oasis above the city for guests to go into 'vacation mode,' no matter if it's a Monday or a Saturday."

 

MORE:

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150413/FREE/150419962/the-9s-rooftop-bar-and-lounge-to-open-may-2


"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."-Voltaire

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Stayed at the 9 last night for a bachelor party. It was very nice and the Vegas feel of the place really worked for us. Just the fact that they have hotels/apts/bars/restaurants all in one complex, that was really cool. Lots of people going in and out all night. Also we talked to Gregg Popovich... he was in front of us in the check-in line yesterday around 3:00. He's here for tonight's Cavs game, really nice guy. Also one of my buddies claimed he saw Johnny Manziel but that might be BS, I had heard he moved out.

 

Went up to the rooftop and that was probably the highlight of the night for me. Pretty good sized crowd and great view, around 4 PM. I should have taken more pictures of the actual bar instead of just the view for you guys.

 

Side note - We were a little worried about the protests but they did not affect the night very much. They all came up to 9th and Eagle right as we were leaving the Tribe game so we walked around to get back to the hotel. Later on we saw them from the hotel room walk by on 9th a few times. But then we walked back and fourth to the casino on Prospect around 11 PM - 1 AM with no issues, and a lot of people were out and about.

 

 

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Oh wow is that cool.  I need to get up there!  How much is a beer?

 

Normal draft is $7 (yikes!), but during happy hour its $4. I believe happy hour goes from 4-7pm

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My friend bought that round so I don't know for sure. Beer selection wasn't great, it was definitely more liquor-oriented. I had a Sam Adams that was probably around $5.

 

 

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East 9th and Euclid -- Lunch hour on a hot, sunny day today......

 

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"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."-Voltaire

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So who's jaywalking?

 

You don't go downtown much, do you? :)


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So who's jaywalking?

 

You don't go downtown much, do you? :)

 

I used to.  That intersection in fact.  Enough to (even now) spot that there are people in adjacent crosswalks that would not both have the light unless someone really screwed up.

 

Upon further review, the people in the light blue and pink shirts are crossing against the light....

 

And the person walking the diagonal would have been me, circa 1984.

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Stayed at the 9 last night for a bachelor party. It was very nice and the Vegas feel of the place really worked for us. Just the fact that they have hotels/apts/bars/restaurants all in one complex, that was really cool. Lots of people going in and out all night. Also we talked to Gregg Popovich... he was in front of us in the check-in line yesterday around 3:00. He's here for tonight's Cavs game, really nice guy. Also one of my buddies claimed he saw Johnny Manziel but that might be BS, I had heard he moved out.

 

Went up to the rooftop and that was probably the highlight of the night for me. Pretty good sized crowd and great view, around 4 PM. I should have taken more pictures of the actual bar instead of just the view for you guys.

 

Side note - We were a little worried about the protests but they did not affect the night very much. They all came up to 9th and Eagle right as we were leaving the Tribe game so we walked around to get back to the hotel. Later on we saw them from the hotel room walk by on 9th a few times. But then we walked back and fourth to the casino on Prospect around 11 PM - 1 AM with no issues, and a lot of people were out and about.

 

 

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It's amazing that in a little over a year, the 9 has become THE place to see and be seen -- to me, it's Vegas, mixed with LA and South Beach-- people and celeb watching is a pastime there.  Kinda nice to have such a place in Cleveland.  We saw, and talked to Pop, who did seem like a nice guy who probably is relaxed to be off the hardwood as an observer, although I'm sure he wishes the Spurs were still playing --- I frankly and glad they are not...

 

The rooftop bar, lounge and dance area was very impressive.  Views of downtown, as your pics display, are fantastic. From the speed of the construction to the quality and scope of the restaurants, lounges, apts, Heinens and hotel rooms, this is one of the most amazing projects I've ever seen.

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I just wanted to announce that the entire "The 9" project was a winner in the Celebration of Preservation Awards program on May 28th.  The title of this particular award was "Outstanding Preservation Achievement" and it was offered, dramatically, as the last award of the event, held in the Allen Theatre.  I was on the Jury; there were some negative comments about the decorating and some other items, but there was plenty of discussion about how the achievement of the whole complex is a tremendously successful ending to what had been an extremely sorry chapter in Cleveland and Cuyahoga County history. Outstanding features of the restoration work included rebuilding the Metropolitan's  main floor facade's wall where the restaurant is.  Wonderful work all around.  It's definitely a so-called "win-win" solution.

http://www.clevelandrestoration.org/awards/past-years.php

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Ken Prendergast ‏@KennyPeepers  32m32 minutes ago

Heinen's (ex-Cleveland Trust Bank), downtown Cleveland. World's most beautiful grocery store outside of Harrods.

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Heinen's is in the process of installing an outdoor patio area on Euclid. I would have taken a picture this morning, but the workers had set the fences up in the wrong space. The patio will be accessed from the western most door of the rotunda building.

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Anyone know if this going to be for people eating prepared food and fair exchange coffee stuff bought from Heinens?  Or will there be some kind of table service?  I'm sort of mixed on this. Not a fan of seeing the sidewalk pinched so narrow. Don't like it near East 4th either.

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Anyone know if this going to be for people eating prepared food and fair exchange coffee stuff bought from Heinens?  Or will there be some kind of table service?  I'm sort of mixed on this. Not a fan of seeing the sidewalk pinched so narrow. Don't like it near East 4th either.

 

It will be additional seating for those eating prepared foods, sushi, salad bar, grill, etc, just like the seating under the rotunda. Tables will be in place mid-next week.

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^^I have no problem with the seating, and in fact welcome it.  It pumps even more life into this most important corner.  Outdoor seating is the norm at urban supermarkets these days (just look at Constantino's in both the WHD and UC/Uptown).  It also enhances this new Heinen's image as being more than just a supermarket, but as an "it" gathering place, as well.... And as for pinched sidewalks, take a look at Philly all over Center City with al fresco seating.  For this 50 or 60 feet, I'll take it.

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Not a fan of seeing the sidewalk pinched so narrow.

 

Guess I'm not the only one.  That's a heavy traffic area, or at least it should be.

 

It might be kind of uncomfortable for most people to sit that close to an active sidewalk, and there's the issue of beggars and potential crime.    If it's a public sidewalk, can they run off panhandlers who camp right there?

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I don't recall any beggars bothering people at Cadillac Ranch and haven't heard any anecdotes from Pure Vida regulars, and both have similar patios.

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Not a fan of seeing the sidewalk pinched so narrow.

 

Guess I'm not the only one.  That's a heavy traffic area, or at least it should be.

 

It might be kind of uncomfortable for most people to sit that close to an active sidewalk, and there's the issue of beggars and potential crime.    If it's a public sidewalk, can they run off panhandlers who camp right there?

 

Beggars and potential crime? I go to Heinen's usually 3-4 times per week and and have only encountered a beggar around there two or three times. And what kind of potential crime do you speak of?

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Such an odd comment. Sidewalk dining is extremely common all over, including in Cleveland. I'm not sure how this would be any bit different than the dozens of other sidewalk dining areas.

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Not a fan of seeing the sidewalk pinched so narrow.

 

Guess I'm not the only one.  That's a heavy traffic area, or at least it should be.

 

It might be kind of uncomfortable for most people to sit that close to an active sidewalk, and there's the issue of beggars and potential crime.    If it's a public sidewalk, can they run off panhandlers who camp right there?

 

Beggars and potential crime? I go to Heinen's usually 3-4 times per week and and have only encountered a beggar around there two or three times. And what kind of potential crime do you speak of?

 

I dunno, you can always walk away from them, but if you are sitting still you are a better potential target.  Especially when eating somewhere expensive.  And that sidewalk is bottlenecked pretty good.

 

It seems like they'd have to put the tables in easy reach of people walking by.  Other places I have seen aren't neccesarily with reach.

 

Oh well, spotting potential problems is what I do for a living so I may be pessimistic....

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Erocc, you're aware, right, that there are already several outdoor dining areas along sidewalks in Downtown Cleveland?  This is isn't some newfangled experiment...

 

Anyone want to guess why Heinens is putting out patio enclosures? I don't think they're required unless there's alchohol consumption.  Maybe just for aesthetics? Would be awesome if they let you drink store-bought beer right there...

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^^You know, outside seating in downtown restaurants isn't exactly a rare phenomenon. Somehow every city in the world seems to manage despite having homeless populations, panhandlers and gutterpunks.

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Erocc, you're aware, right, that there are already several outdoor dining areas along sidewalks in Downtown Cleveland?  This is isn't some newfangled experiment...

 

Anyone want to guess why Heinens is putting out patio enclosures? I don't think they're required unless there's alchohol consumption.  Maybe just for aesthetics? Would be awesome if they let you drink store-bought beer right there...

 

Smoking, perhaps?

 

This one seems different, perhaps because it's a main commercial street and the sidewalk is pinched so hard.

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Or you could sit down for some nice al fresco dining, enjoy the city, and stop worrying. Tear down the walls of fear, eRocc! Be free! :)


"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."-Voltaire

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Not a fan of seeing the sidewalk pinched so narrow.

 

Guess I'm not the only one.  That's a heavy traffic area, or at least it should be.

 

It might be kind of uncomfortable for most people to sit that close to an active sidewalk, and there's the issue of beggars and potential crime.    If it's a public sidewalk, can they run off panhandlers who camp right there?

 

Beggars and potential crime? I go to Heinen's usually 3-4 times per week and and have only encountered a beggar around there two or three times. And what kind of potential crime do you speak of?

 

I dunno, you can always walk away from them, but if you are sitting still you are a better potential target.  Especially when eating somewhere expensive.  And that sidewalk is bottlenecked pretty good.

 

It seems like they'd have to put the tables in easy reach of people walking by.  Other places I have seen aren't neccesarily with reach.

 

Oh well, spotting potential problems is what I do for a living so I may be pessimistic....

 

I've seen the Downtown Partner folks handle situations where people hassle outdoor patrons. Even then, I've only seen that issue arise once or twice.

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As I've said before, let's not be so hasty in calling the downtown Heinen's the most beautiful grocery store in the world.  The U.S., perhaps.  But Europe....  A few months ago I showed photos of the Food Hall at the Harrod's flagship store in London.  This is about the Yeliseyevsky grocery store in Moscow:

https://www.likealocalguide.com/moscow/yeliseyevsky-store

I had thought our Mayfield Heights Yeliseyevsky's, which is a great store for a local ethnic food place, was named for a local individual, but it turns out it must be named for the Moscow emporium.

 

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From this article on Crain's (http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20150713/BLOGS14/150719949/columbus-roads-resurgence-gains-a-professional-firms-office)  re. the Spaghetti House building:

 

More movement on East Ninth Street

 

The sphere of influence of Geis Cos. on East Ninth Street in downtown Cleveland has taken a step farther south.

 

The Streetsboro-based builders and developers recently assumed management of The New York Spaghetti House, a one-time landmark restaurant at 2173 E. Ninth St. and the parking lot next door to it, a prized location near Progressive Field. The properties abut the south side of the garage on East Ninth that serves Geis’ The 9, the mixed-use office, hotel, apartment and retail complex between Euclid and Prospect Avenues.

 

Asked what Geis’ plans are for the property, Greg Geis had a surprising answer in an email.

 

“Just the property manager,” Greg Geis wrote, adding in a subsequent email that neither he nor brother Fred Geis has an ownership stake in Spaghetti House. The answer was a surprise, as Downtown Investment Group LLC lists to the family-owned development and construction concern’s address in Streetsboro, where tax bills will also be sent.

 

Greg Geis said he does not know of plans for the long-empty building. He did not respond to question’s about the identity of the client.

 

The seller was R. House Cleveland LLC, a real estate company led by Rascal House owner-operators Michael and Fouly Frangos, who acquired it last year.

 

Though things changed a lot on East Ninth Street since 2014, nothing significant changed at this property. Neither did the sale price: Downtown Investment Group paid $1.5 million, the same figure R. House paid, according to Cuyahoga County land records.

 

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Let's, please, keep referring to the building as the "New York Spaghetti House building," and the restaurant has been gone many years and I wouldn't want someone to come across a post and think it's still going.....  As the building is one of the oldest downtown, and would fit well into the Warehouse District, I hope it is not the next historic threat for demolition! :police:

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Let's, please, keep referring to the building as the "New York Spaghetti House building," and the restaurant has been gone many years and I wouldn't want someone to come across a post and think it's still going.....  As the building is one of the oldest downtown, and would fit well into the Warehouse District, I hope it is not the next historic threat for demolition! :police:

 

Sorry to be the one to break the bad news, but...

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,7006.msg764832.html#msg764832

 

New York Spaghetti House: Case 15-048

2173 East 9th Street

Demolition

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/landmark/agenda/2015/07232015/index.php

 

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Michelle Jarboe ‏mjarboe[/member]  13 minutes ago

Geis Cos. plans repositioning at The Vault at @The9CLE. Diversifying into food w/ gastropub-type options, departure from pure nightclub.

 

Michelle Jarboe ‏mjarboe[/member]  11 minutes ago

Geis Cos. rep uses the term "gastro-lounge" to describe planned shift in branding, vibe for The Vault at @The9CLE.

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