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penn station is under massive renovation with modernizing and adding new entrances — its pretty horrible try avoid it at all costs for awhile — but anyway one of the good things to be lost for a new entrance is tracks. yes there are a couple good things in penn believe it or not and one was this classic and always friendly commuter tavern. i happened to be in penn on its last day of business this summer so i stopped in:

 

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ya gotta love the lirr map on the ceiling

 

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the whole area is all boarded up now.

 

 

i dk what will become of this:

 

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10 minutes ago, Foraker said:

California to Las Vegas train project continues to advance.  2020 construction date estimate.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-speed-california-las-vegas-train-plan/story?id=65264856

 

I doubt this happens.  If people are driving to Victorville, why not keep driving all the way to Las Vegas and have your own personal car when you're there?

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Foraker said:

California to Las Vegas train project continues to advance.  2020 construction date estimate.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/high-speed-california-las-vegas-train-plan/story?id=65264856

 

12 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

I doubt this happens.  If people are driving to Victorville, why not keep driving all the way to Las Vegas and have your own personal car when you're there?

 

 

 

Downtown LA to Victorville is a 1:20 drive. LA to Las Vegas is a 4:05 drive and you go right through Victorville. 

 

Victorville to Las Vegas is a 2:45 drive. The train will take between 1:10-1:30. 

 

If the frequency and cost are reasonable people will take the train. 

 

Yes, it would be much better if it went all the way to LA (Or Orange County), but incremental steps that actually happen are the only way we are going to get to a proper passenger rail infrastructure. 

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This is huge news for LA and the Southland....

 

Agreement reached to fund Los Angeles Union rail link

 

 

AN agreement was reached on September 13 by California State Transportation Agency (CalSta), Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority (Metro) and California High-Speed Rail Authority to release $US 423m Proposition 1A funds for a project to convert Los Angeles Union into a through station.

 

New tracks will be constructed from the southern end of the terminal station over a highway to provide a second connection from the station to the rail network. Additional platforms will be built, the pedestrian passage beneath the tracks will be expanded, and escalators and lifts will be installed.

 

Converting Union station into a through station will increase capacity, cut Santa Barbara – Los Angeles – San Diego Amtrak journey times by reducing dwell times at Union station, allow new cross-LA Metrolink commuter rail services to be introduced, and eventually facilitate the introduction of high-speed services.

 

MORE:

https://www.railjournal.com/regions/north-america/agreement-reached-to-fund-los-angeles-union-rail-link/

 

 

The following images (and more) are from:

https://urbanize.la/post/four-options-union-station-run-through-tracks

 

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Also in the Golden State....

 

 


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That line is needed.  Grapevine to Plano driving can be a mess.


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This animation of the Bakersfield station clearly illustrates how express/local will work.  There will be four tracks - 2 express tracks in the middle and platform tracks on the outside.  Just like every other HSR network that does this and has done this for decades.  

 

The twist here is the gigantic size of this planned structure - not only are the platforms 1,200 feet long, there is also at least one storage track.  So the total elevated section is like 3,000 feet long and variably up to 100 feet wide.  

 

 

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Trouble in Paradise - California politicians have begun to prepare what appears to be a contingency plan in the event that Trump (or another Republican) wins the White House in 2020. 

 

This plan will take funds currently allocated to the electrification of the under-construction Central Valley track and divert it to major upgrades to LA's commuter rail system.  Those include significant trackwork improvements to Union Station, numerous grade separations, construction of an express track between Union Station and Burbank, and the purchase of battery-powered EMU's to increase service. 

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-10-09/metrolink-plans-electric-train-service-burbank-anaheim-bullet-train-funds

 

With California posting gigantic budget surpluses and the prospect of a Democrat winning the Presidency in 2020, we will likely see big-time federal and state money flow to the project and the whole thing will get back on schedule. 

 

 

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I didn't see the connection in this development to a possible Trump 2020 victory at all. The proposal is to develop the Burbank-Anaheim portion of the high-speed rail network where the inner tracks are used by high-speed trains and the outer tracks by commuter trains. I think it's a sensible proposal that would have higher ridership benefits than the near-term investments in the Central Valley.


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38 minutes ago, KJP said:

I didn't see the connection in this development to a possible Trump 2020 victory at all.

 

The whole dilemma is that there was never going be enough commuter rail traffic to justify full grade separation and full overhead electrification without HSR also using the corridor. 

 

So what this ends up doing is creating two construction phases instead of one. First, the one they have just hatched, then a second phase when HSR is brought to LA.  That's inevitably more expensive than doing the full build-out at once. 

 

This also makes the Pacheco Pass Tunnel more expensive because the cost to dig the tunnel will now include electrification of the Central Valley. 

 

I also see the purchase of the diesel trains as a way to justify never building the Pacheco Pass Tunnel and instead routing the line through Altamont, which will still require a tunnel, but a much shorter one that could accommodate diesels without requiring as elaborate of an exhaust system. 

 

 

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Hard to believe that they'd mess up something like this...a fleet of bullet trains were heavily damaged this past weekend in Nagoya, about 80 miles inland from Tokyo.  If they're old enough they're just going to have to scrap these.  

 

 

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On 10/14/2019 at 4:56 PM, jmecklenborg said:

Hard to believe that they'd mess up something like this...a fleet of bullet trains were heavily damaged this past weekend in Nagoya, about 80 miles inland from Tokyo.  If they're old enough they're just going to have to scrap these.  

 

 

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For as advanced as Japanese culture is, they also have issues reacting to serious looming emergencies....   Clearly these trains could have been moved to higher ground somewhere....but that would have involved stopping the train service early before the storm....

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Maine: Downeaster floats plans to add commuter service

As it nears 20 years in operation, the Downeaster passenger train service is weighing options to become a reliable means of regional transit, not just a rail connection from southern Maine to Boston.

 

https://www.masstransitmag.com/rail/news/21111227/me-downeaster-floats-plans-to-add-commuter-service

 

This paragraph particularly jumped out at me:

 

“The service’s fiscal year 2019 financials are not complete, Quinn said, but last year state and local funding paid for about 37 percent of its $22.8 million operating budget.”

 

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miami --- walk through of metrorail central station:

 

https://www.thenextmiami.com/tri-rail-conducts-walk-through-of-miamicentral-station-but-still-has-no-idea-when-it-will-open/

 

 

 

also, expansion north to broward county:

 

 

Miami Dade approves Metrorail expansion for North Corridor extension that will run to Broward
NOVEMBER 01, 2019 11:07 AM

A key transportation board of elected officials unanimously endorsed an elevated Metrorail system on Northwest 27th Avenue to Miami Gardens, rather than monorail, magnetic levitation or other options studied by state consultants for the roughly 10-mile route.

Miami-Dade’s elusive promise of a northern Metrorail route remained alive Thursday on a familiar support system of long-shot possibilities, including Washington agreeing to pick up about half of the $1.9 billion construction tab.

But there’s no contest in riders. Metrorail would average 16,200 a day, including 7,500 new users, WSP said, while the other modes would serve half that or fewer.
As such, per-passenger costs overwhelmingly favor Metrorail, the only mode that would offer one-seat rides from Brickell to a future Unity Metrorail station at Northwest 215th Street.

 

more:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article236868003.html

 

 

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Dear Connecticut, please take Northeast Ohio back so we can have trains too!

 

CT: Hartford Line exceeds one million riders as commuter rail exceeds forecast

More than one million riders have traveled on the Hartford Line since the commuter rail service opened in June 2018, Governor Ned Lamont announced Thursday.

https://www.masstransitmag.com/rail/news/21121732/ct-hartford-line-exceeds-one-million-riders-as-commuter-rail-exceeds-forecast

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I was flying back from Milwaukee General Mitchell airport this evening. I glanced at the departures board and noticed the two evening Amtrak trains to Chicago Union Station (and three headed to downtown Milwaukee) were on the departures board with all the outgoing flights. 

 

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The MKE airport train station isn’t really THAT close to the airport - you have to take a shuttle to get there. But it was nice to see the effort to emphasize the multi-modal transportation options. 

 

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It is a reminder that every Amtrak train through Cleveland passes a mere quarter mile from the terminal at Hopkins Airport. The existing walkway to the garage and Orange lot beyond already covers more than a third of this distance. As @KJP has previously described, I’d really like to see an enclosed walkway connection made over 237, as shown by the red line below, and a train station established there, serving additional Amtrak service,  the Ohio Hub passenger rail implementation, and a proper Northeast Ohio commuter rail system. (Amtrak route marked in blue.)  I think it is important that this proposal be included in the revised Hopkins Master Plan. 

 

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You mean something like this?  😉 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, KJP said:

You mean something like this?  😉 

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Yes. But I’d shift the platform north with an eye on adding a Red Line station at the far end of the platform once passenger rail service is sufficient to justify the direct station connection. That’s going to be a long walk to the existing airport Red Line station. 

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1 minute ago, Boomerang_Brian said:

Yes. But I’d shift the platform north with an eye on adding a Red Line station at the far end of the platform once passenger rail service is sufficient to justify the direct station connection. That’s going to be a long walk to the existing airport Red Line station. 

 

It won't save much distance. The Red Line is still climbing out of the trench for the airport tunnel until it reaches the first turnout for RTA's Brookpark Yard. A couple feet east of that is where the Red Line tracks can spread apart wide enough to put a station platform between the Red Line's two main tracks. If you put an overhead access to the RTA platform there, it's a roughly 1,200-foot walk from the point where the overhead access for the Amtrak station would be.  And that walk would be all outdoors next to a busy railroad mainline with fast-moving freight trains rolling by there.

 

The direct line from the Airport Red Line Station to an Airport Amtrak station is about 1,400 feet. It's all indoors and most of its by moving walkway.


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14 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

It won't save much distance. The Red Line is still climbing out of the trench for the airport tunnel until it reaches the first turnout for RTA's Brookpark Yard. A couple feet east of that is where the Red Line tracks can spread apart wide enough to put a station platform between the Red Line's two main tracks. If you put an overhead access to the RTA platform there, it's a roughly 1,200-foot walk from the point where the overhead access for the Amtrak station would be.  And that walk would be all outdoors next to a busy railroad mainline with fast-moving freight trains rolling by there.

 

The direct line from the Airport Red Line Station to an Airport Amtrak station is about 1,400 feet. It's all indoors and most of its by moving walkway.

 

Ah, I see. I thought it could be a bit closer. High quality moving walkways from the airport terminal would be important. I’d also like to see the walkway through the garage be enclosed, with gaps only for through car traffic. It’s already marked off for pedestrians, which is good, but it is not a nice walk at all. Something like the walkways along the parking garage at Boston Logan would be much better. 

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