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On 6/25/2019 at 5:06 PM, taestell said:

Even if a shared path alongside the street is the better option, is it worth spending 3 times as much as the protected bike lanes that were originally planned?

 

That's a perfect way to make sure the city makes as little progress on bike infrastructure as possible... blow the budget on a few fancy trails instead of putting down some paint and bollards for a fraction of the cost and building a much larger network.

 

I can say in Canton, the city engineer secures federal funding by making "complete streets", meaning they have some form of bike path included.  I know it's been a key in some of our main corridors, Cherry Avenue, 12th street etc.  Without the inclusion of the bike paths, the funding would not be available and the project would be dead.  It's gotten some pretty poor looking roads and corridors spiffed up. I commute on the bike lines on 12th, which I probably would not ride on without them. Maybe the same thing is happening with a project like the one you mentioned.?

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The mtb trail conditions today are pretty typical of the pattern we see around here - Mitchell Memorial is my favorite trail in the area but it has serious drainage issues and I don't hesitate to say is outright dangerous to ride when it's wet.  Meanwhile, thanks to hundreds of hours of manual labor, Mt. Airy went from worst to first for drainage.  That doesn't change the fact that it's a short but extremely challenging trail thanks to the most and steepest climbing in the area. 

 

At Devou, the entrance is what I thought was a pretty substantial climb until Mt. Airy opened.  It's a solid 10 minutes of climbing before the ride even starts, but none of it is insanely steep.  Devou does have a very steep climb at the back of Back Bowl but all of Mt. Airy is like that.

 

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Construction of the Ohio River trail between Lunken Airport and Coney Island/Belterra Park is underway.  Today I saw no less than 50 guys working at 3 different construction sites.  Some of the work they are doing is very expensive. 

 

About 2-3 miles of the trail opened more than 10 years ago from Coney Island east to a random gas station.  What is under construction currently will link that section to the heavily used Lunken Airport trail.  What is being built won't be perfect but it will be a vast improvement over the current situation.  The hilly curve at the Cincinnati Waterworks has always been a dangerous spot but that's about to end. 

 

In these photos you will see why this trail extension is so expensive - they're moving many, many telephone poles and a few sewers.  They're also build a pair of very large retaining walls near the Waterworks. 

 

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^ thanks for that update, I was actually just looking into the ORT last weekend and wondered what the status was since the site for the Salem to Sutton connection you described said construction would begin fall 2019. I also saw public comment going around from ODOT for the Lunken to LMST bridge which is expected to begin construction next spring and be complete 2022. 

 

Has the section from Lunken to downtown been funded or have a timeline? 

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Wild...from what I'm hearing elsewhere, walkers and bikers will be forced to head down to the traffic circle in order to cross the bridge approach.  Hopefully that information is incorrect, since a new traffic signal in this location would help reduce the speeding by motorcyclists. 

 

A trip down and around the traffic circle is no less than 1,700 feet, or roughly the length of the bridge itself north to U.S. Bank Heritage Bank Arena. 

 

 

 

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That makes absolutely no sense. Why not just do a crosswalk with flashing yellow lights and cut a couple new openings in the concrete walls? I would love to see a raised walk/hump just inside the big expansion joint where the bridge begins, but even just paint and lights would be better than nothing. I get that if you are walking/biking on the levee wall and want to get to Ohio, it's really annoying to go down and around and up some stairs, and this will help with that. But I thought these two bridges were also part of creating the overall connectivity of the Riverfront Commons project, which can only be accomplished with a crosswalk. 

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Here's how they describe it on the Southbank Partners Site: http://www.southbankpartners.com/news/2019/11/21/three-riverfront-projects-bring-riverfront-commons-closer-to-reality-.aspx

 

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Pedestrian walkways to Taylor-Southgate Bridge in Newport

 

In Newport, construction is currently underway on two pedestrian walkways that will connect Riverfront Commons to the sidewalks on east and west side of the Taylor-Southgate Bridge. Sunesis Construction is currently working on the $1.2-million project.

 

The Riverfront Commons trail section in Newport was one of first full sections of the trail to be completed. The Newport trail runs from on top of the riverfront levee from the Fourth Street bridge to Bellevue and it connects with the Purple People Bridge via pedestrian walkways. However, people on the trail who want to use the Taylor- Southgate Bridge, a popular route for Reds games and other event and activities in Cincinnati and Newport, must now descend the trail by steps to the roadway below, cross the street, then ascend an additional set of steps up to the bridge level.

 

“The new pedestrian walkways will make it much more convenient for walkers, runners, and bikers to access the Taylor-Southgate Bridge,” Newport City Manager Tom Fromme said. “These new walkways, along with existing pedestrian connections at the Purple People Bridge, will make our community even more walkable than it already is.”

 

Newport Mayor Jerry Peluso said the project is important for not only Newport but also  for people who live and work in Cincinnati.

 

“These new walkways, which people have been requesting for a long time, will not only benefit our residents and visitors, but they also will make it even easier for people in Cincinnati to visit our community and enjoy the entertainment, recreation, music, delicious food, and beautiful panoramic views found here,” Peluso said.

 


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28 minutes ago, ucgrady said:

That makes absolutely no sense. 

 

These bridges don't make sense and neither does the new road layout.  The Newport Riverfront has gone from being mediocre in one way to being mediocre in another.  

 

The traffic circles are the two worst new traffic circles in the region.  Both are terrible for pedestrians.  The weird "bypass" connecting them is...weird.  

 

 

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^NKY (Kenton, Boone and Campbell County) traffic engineering over the past 50 years has for the most part been way off the mark and wacky. So many unnecessary/overbuilt projects and closures. And all those one-ways put them out of business. They just can't figure it out.

 

A lot of these changes have been documented by this website: http://www.bunkerblast.info/roadpics/

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Looks like the perfect location for some guerrilla urbanists to paint a crosswalk and put one of those "stop for pedestrians in crosswalk" bollards in the middle.

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Red Bike reopens with more e-bikes, first responders initiative

 

Cincinnati’s nonprofit bike sharing program is back in business after a two-month hiatus.

 

Mayor John Cranley announced Thursday afternoon that Red Bike has reopenedafter it shut down on March 29 due to coronavirus concerns. Red Bike submitted to the Cincinnati Health Department a detailed reopening plan that prioritizes the health and safety of Red Bike riders, staff and the community. 

 

As it reopens, Red Bike will launch Bike It Forward, an initiative that will give free monthly Red Bike “Thank You” memberships to health care workers and first responders. The initiative will also provide free advertising space on Red Bikes and station kiosks for local restaurants and bars to help promote the businesses that have been hard hit by the pandemic.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2020/05/28/red-bike-reopens-with-more-bikes-new-intiative.html


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The CPD mountain bikes were out in full force this past weekend.  It was interesting to see many of the officers wearing downhill mtb full-face helmets and...shin guards.  IMG_3023.JPG.3dbe44567ab9544e76a06588bd7dafc5.JPG

 

 

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This is kind of a niche question, and I know it's not exactly the purpose of this thread... but I'm wondering if anybody has biked across Western Hills Viaduct, either on the top or lower level. I'm asking because Google Maps recommends it (the lower level) as the preferred bike route from OTR to Fairmount. Alternatively, I could bike up to Hopple or down to Gest... but those add 1 or 2 miles, respectively. I'm fairly comfortable riding in traffic... but the Western Hills Viaduct seems extremely hostile. There's a sidewalk on the southern side of the upper deck. I usually wouldn't bike on a sidewalk, but that seems like it might be the only reasonably safe way to bike across the Viaduct.

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I haven't. I may attempt when the Lick Run trail is done.  Based on a quickly Google Maps peek, I'd take the top deck.  Westward, take your pick, but the lower deck is only 1 lane eastbound, and I'm not willing to take a one lane narrow road with some of the crazies that drive over that thing waiting behind me.

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18 minutes ago, 10albersa said:

I haven't. I may attempt when the Lick Run trail is done.  Based on a quickly Google Maps peek, I'd take the top deck.  Westward, take your pick, but the lower deck is only 1 lane eastbound, and I'm not willing to take a one lane narrow road with some of the crazies that drive over that thing waiting behind me.

Thanks - the Lick Run trail is looking good. They definitely still have work left to be completed, but I think they're on target to finish by end of year. 

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The upper deck has a sidewalk.  The lower deck does not.  You have to carry your bike up or down a staircase at the west end unless you want to get out in the scrum.  

 

The sidewalk is fairly narrow so if you encounter another bike or pedestrian one of you needs to step off the sidewalk.  It's not a big deal.  There is usually a fair amount of broken glass on the sidewalk as well.  

 

 

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1 hour ago, jwulsin said:

This is kind of a niche question, and I know it's not exactly the purpose of this thread... but I'm wondering if anybody has biked across Western Hills Viaduct, either on the top or lower level. I'm asking because Google Maps recommends it (the lower level) as the preferred bike route from OTR to Fairmount. Alternatively, I could bike up to Hopple or down to Gest... but those add 1 or 2 miles, respectively. I'm fairly comfortable riding in traffic... but the Western Hills Viaduct seems extremely hostile. There's a sidewalk on the southern side of the upper deck. I usually wouldn't bike on a sidewalk, but that seems like it might be the only reasonably safe way to bike across the Viaduct.

 

I've walked across that sidewalk before and it can be nerve-racking. It's pretty narrow, so truck/bus mirrors are mere inches from you, and everyone seems to be doing 20+ MPH over the speed limit at all times. Also note that it dumps you into a stairway on the west side of the bridge.

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I've biked some pretty unfriendly streets, but never Western Hills Viaduct or Hopple.  I've only done 8th, Gest, and Millcreek.  I don't have any need or desire to go that way though.  Usually I'm coming down Spring Grove or Central Parkway.  If I want to mix things up, I'll take Millcreek to State/Beekman and then head back east on 8th or Gest.  There's just not much good riding on the west side, and even if there were, crossing the Mill Creek Valley is only the first challenge, then you have to get up the hill and not a single one of the roads is good for that. 

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1 hour ago, jjakucyk said:

There's just not much good riding on the west side

 

A good ride from downtown is to go up Warsaw then out on Cleves-Warsaw to Cleves, then up E. Miami River Rd. to New Baltimore, then back toward town via Blue Rock Rd., then over to West Fork Rd. via Sheed, then back to Northside via West Fork Rd.  

 

A variation is to ride Hillside instead of Cleves-Warsaw and to divert from E. Miami River Rd. to Buffalo Ridge (there is a water fountain and bathrooms in Mitchell Memorial Forest).  

 

Aside from Buffalo Ridge, biking the big hills on Rybolt and Race Rd. are fun on occasion, and the steep Springdale Rd. climb up from Harrison is fun.  There are other big hills that come off of Springdale outward toward Butler County like Brehm and Thompson Rd.  

 

I have ridden from Clifton to Harrison (the whole length of Harrison Rd.) and back before.  The only section that sucks is from about I-74 to Miamitown.  You just need to conserve energy so you can blast through that section at 22~mph to get it over as soon as possible.  It's one of the more bike-hostile spots in Cincinnati.  

 

Another ride that I have done is from downtown to Miami-Whitewater Forest, do a lap of that 8-mile paved trail, then head back.  

 

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On my way to Fairmount, I took Gest to State, and on the way back I took the upper deck of the Viaduct. I survived, but the Viaduct is definitely not good for biking. Traffic wasn't too bad, so cars could easily pass me... but I was worried one car would pass me and then have the car behind not see me. I think in the future, I'll just take Gest/State route, even though it's quite a bit longer. 

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