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On 7/22/2018 at 1:09 PM, eastvillagedon said:

starts in about half an hour. Come on, it's only raining a little!

 

https://www.onemainfinancial.com/mainstreet/painesville

 

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Painesville is featured on the Main Street America blog (#5 down) along with the other cities that were part of this project :classic_smile:

 

https://www.mainstreet.org/blogs/national-main-street-center/2019/01/29/made-on-main-supporting-innovative-community-trans

 

"In 2018, OneMain Financial and Main Street America (MSA) launched Made on Main Street, a grant program that provided seven $25,000 Community Action Grants for innovative, community impact projects led by inspirational local leaders. The program focused on Main Street member communities in seven states: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, and Washington. 

The 2018 Made on Main Street projects selected represent a variety of creative and practical community transformation approaches. In each of the grant-awarded communities, OneMain Financial hosted a community celebration block party event that brought the communities together and showcased each of the projects. The final projects are scheduled to be completed by Autumn 2019."

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another day, another taco shop enters the scene, but sounds pretty good 🇲🇽

 

Painesville’s Picante Mexican Grill delivers solid, inexpensive authentic fare | Restaurant review

 

https://www.news-herald.com/entertainment/painesville-s-picante-mexican-grill-delivers-solid-inexpensive-authentic-fare/article_c118b084-3481-11e9-9fc7-672553360c00.html

 

lol-- "It’s comically ironic that within walking distance of the local Taco Bell there are several local operations with authentic south-of-the-border food that’s almost as inexpensive"

 

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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that this event qualifies as possibly the lamest St. Patrick's Day parade in America, at the very least in Ohio. The only Irish-American connection I can think of is that Hellriegel's Inn (which was the fancy place to eat back in my day) was the site of a campaign appearance in 1960 by JFK, just weeks before his election. But what the heck, if you can't make it to the big one in Cleveland, maybe it won't be so bad...:classic_sad:

 

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I drove through Painesville last October and was shocked at how unpleasant the downtown was.  So much torn down.  In marked contrast, I also drove through Willoughby and was surprised at how beautiful and intact it was.  It was my first time driving through either town and the differences could not be more stark.

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12 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:

I drove through Painesville last October and was shocked at how unpleasant the downtown was.  So much torn down.  In marked contrast, I also drove through Willoughby and was surprised at how beautiful and intact it was.  It was my first time driving through either town and the differences could not be more stark.

Urban renewal decimated downtown Painesville. Downtown Ashtabula as well. But yeah, I love downtown Willoughby 

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52 minutes ago, marty15 said:

Urban renewal decimated downtown Painesville. Downtown Ashtabula as well. But yeah, I love downtown Willoughby 

 

Although Ashtabula has two "downtowns" of sorts.  Main St. (at least more so than Painesville's Main St.) is still fairly intact, although there are a lot of vacancies and the buildings have a rundown feel.  "The Harbor" is kept up very nicely (and actually seems to be thriving with businesses).

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8999556,-80.7984823,3a,75y,266.48h,89.37t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKlsXbTvb4dP-OUDi5wZrkw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

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1 hour ago, jam40jeff said:

 

Although Ashtabula has two "downtowns" of sorts.  Main St. (at least more so than Painesville's Main St.) is still fairly intact, although there are a lot of vacancies and the buildings have a rundown feel.  "The Harbor" is kept up very nicely (and actually seems to be thriving with businesses).

 

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Yeah, the harbor area is nice. I believe they’re getting a boutique hotel on Bridge St. Is that still happening?

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18 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:

I drove through Painesville last October and was shocked at how unpleasant the downtown was.  So much torn down.  In marked contrast, I also drove through Willoughby and was surprised at how beautiful and intact it was.  It was my first time driving through either town and the differences could not be more stark.

Isn't this what I've been talking about for years? The problem with Painesville is that it was desperate to stop the flow of retail after the Great Lakes Mall was built, since it was the main shopping destination for decades for Lake County before the 60's. Willoughby, on the other hand never had as large a downtown (did it?) and didn't sense the need to overhaul their business district. I only passed through it on a few occasions growing up. Although Painesville will never look like it once did, they are making efforts to reverse their losses. But I can't believe it was really that "unpleasant" an experience to drive through town, was it? I don't know, it still looks pretty good in these pictures posted a few days ago by Drone Ohio😉

 

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^ There are definitely a few beautiful churches (and those pics have a filter on them, lol) but, yes I did find it unpleasant.  There isn't much there and what is left just reminded me of what must have gotten torn down.  The huge parking lot for the government building that's across the street from the only remaining strip of historical buildings is particularly unattractive.  As I said, that was my first time to downtown Painsville and I was very underwhelmed.  I wish Painsville the best as they try to improve.

 

 

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23 hours ago, jeremyck01 said:

^ There are definitely a few beautiful churches (and those pics have a filter on them, lol) but, yes I did find it unpleasant.  There isn't much there and what is left just reminded me of what must have gotten torn down.  The huge parking lot for the government building that's across the street from the only remaining strip of historical buildings is particularly unattractive.  As I said, that was my first time to downtown Painsville and I was very underwhelmed.  I wish Painsville the best as they try to improve.

 

 

 

you're right, a lot was torn down, and it doesn't make for such an appealing downtown, but based on your praise of Willoughby, it seems what you were looking for (and correct me if I'm wrong), was sort of a trendy yuppie-bar experience, which does not yet exist in Painesville. It's not my thing (even when I was young I wasn't into that kind of scene), but I understand that's a hallmark of "urban revival," since it brings in young people with lots of disposable income. That said, maybe if you would have gotten out of your car instead of quickly breezing through town you might have been pleasantly surprised if you had strolled around. Though there aren't a lot of businesses downtown, there are some appealing places to eat/drink, like the  popular Sidewalk Cafe, a former historic pharmacy, now kind of a classic Greek diner (the owner is actually Greek). Also there's the somewhat upscale Bistro 70 ;or the old-time dive bar that's a bit hipsterish, Nemeth's Lounge; and Starfish and Coffee, a newer place with a vibe that I find a little too New Agey (to say the least), but which regularly hosts local performers for evenings of entertainment. Cleveland, which you always defend (as do I), is probably regarded as "unpleasant" by a lot of people, based on the vast swaths of ravaged neighborhoods, and while downtown has development going on and seems like it has a bright outlook, it still will never be the great shopping destination it was up until about 50 years ago, with major department stores. Cities change all the time, but to dismiss a place based on a facile, casual drive through town is a little unfair. 

 

 

 

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I didn't dismiss a place "based on a facile drive through"  All I did was state my opinion that I was disappointed by the downtown of Painsville and I wish I could see what has been lost.  This is not a personal indictment of you, or the city as a whole or the good people who live there.  It is merely a description of my impression.  And while I was driving through, I did park and I did get out of the car and walk around downtown

 

As far as my praise of Willoughby, I don't know what you mean by a "trendy, yuppy-bar" experience.  I  liked Willoughby because of the intact downtown and the beautiful architecture.  Nothing to do with bars or anything else.

 

Again, this is my opinion based on my first impression.  You don't have to agree, nor do I expect anyone else to agree, but please don't tell me what I did or didn't do to arrive at that opinion.  I will gladly check out the restaurants you suggested if I make it back.

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^well, you did say you drove through these towns. How did I know you got out of the car? lol

 

I promised myself I wouldn't continue the Willoughby-Painesville  "discussion" any further but then I remembered this contest from a few years ago. I couldn't download the facebook comments but it got really nasty, actually funny.The winning city was promised a promotional video to attract tourism but it never materialized. I guess they ultimately came to the conclusion that they're both small towns and it would be a waste of time and energy, to say nothing of money (!) to produce something that ultimately might have been viewed by less than an hundred people.😂

 

Painesville tops Willoughby in Facebook face-off put on by Lake County Visitors Bureau 

Devon Turchan

Mar 11, 2013

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"They have had the best of times and the worst of times, but this tale of two cities ended in a 1,522 to 1,286 Facebook vote win for Painesville over Willoughby. Two of Lake County's old-time districts were pitted against one another in a voter-based "Historic Downtown Battle" put on by the Lake County Visitors Bureau on Facebook. Willoughby was winning it by hundreds of votes until the last day, when the city that's older and a little farther east came up from behind to take it. Besides the voting, hundreds of Facebook users fired comments back and forth during the monthlong duration of the duel. "Willoughby is more currently 'fashionable,' but Painesville Square is the real deal," posted Jason Colema, a graduate of Willoughby South High School. "Home of (annual) the largest free music festival in the state. We have Lake Erie College, historic homes (even moreso than Willoughby) slightly better Metroparks, more and more shops moving in, classier restaurants, and the best tacos this side of the border." Others vied for Willoughby. "The restaurants AND stores AND people in Willoughby are truly what make it so special. We love visiting there as often as possible," posted Bobbi Maxwell Young of Canton. That kind of deliberation is exactly what Elizabeth Wantz, social media specialist at the Lake County Visitors Bureau, was hoping for."

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New for sale condo building in Downtown Willoughby. Next to the courthouse.

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I suppose this qualifies as news only because it's happening in a small town where not much happens, but I find the presence of a Chipotle somewhat unseemly in a place where there are a number of actual, authentic Mexican restaurants. Then again, they've had a Taco Bell threre for decades, so who am I to judge. lol

 

Painesville announces the addition of a new Chipotle!

 

https://q104.radio.com/blogs/amanda-casey/painesville-city-announces-addition-new-chipotle

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On 8/20/2018 at 3:16 PM, eastvillagedon said:

Work on the new Lake County Administration building seems to be progressing nicely, and is scheduled for completion next Spring. It will be connected to the building on the right (with a glass-enclosed walkway, at least that's how it appears in a rendering), which now also houses county offices, but was originally home to Painesville National Bank, which opened in 1929 (probably not the most propitious year to open a new bank :(), and still bears its inscription. I remember this building as the local branch of Cleveland Trust in the 60's--

 

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the new Lake Co. Administration Building is nearing completion--this will look better in the daytime 😧 lol

 

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"Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities."-Voltaire

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On 7/10/2018 at 3:40 PM, eastvillagedon said:

OneMain Financial Awards $25,000 Grant to Downtown Painesville Organization for the Beautification Project of the Historic Gage House

Company Will Host A Free Family-Friendly Block Party to Celebrate the Project

 

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180710005563/en/OneMain-Financial-Awards-25000-Grant-Downtown-Painesville

 

EVANSVILLE, Ind.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--OneMain Financial announced today that it will host its second “Made on Main Street” event on Sunday, July 22, 2018, to celebrate the $25,000 grant awarded to the Downtown Painesville Organization. “Made on Main Street,” a partnership between OneMain Financial and Main Street America, provides community action grants for innovative community transformation projects across the country. The dollars awarded through this philanthropic initiative will be used to beautify the grounds surrounding the historic Gage House. Six additional grants have been awarded to organizations across the country.

 

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work on the Gage House has been completed and it is now officially open. I still think the current location (it was moved several blocks many years ago to make was for a Rite-Aid😲) is a bit awkward; and it doesn't look like the interior restoration was fully faithful to historic accuracy (to say the least), but still good it was saved---

 

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On 7/10/2019 at 2:49 PM, eastvillagedon said:

 

the new Lake Co. Administration Building is nearing completion--this will look better in the daytime 😧 lol

 

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the new Lake County Administration Center is now open for business, ready to serve the public, and already reviled by many as a waste of money and for its design. The curved window portion, which offers sweeping views of Veterans Park (now routinely referred to as Painesville Square) and the historic Methodist church next door, was nevertheless maligned for its bright tourquoise-y color. It was explained this was a tribute to Lake Erie College. Never mind that the school colors are forest green and white. There was in the original plan a rooftop garden for employees which was nixed due, I assume, for budgetary reasons (to say nothing of the fact that Lake Co. taxpayers might have looked askance at such an extravagance), but reportedly from that vantage point one can see the Cleveland skyline--30 miles away--in the distance. 

 

https://www.news-herald.com/news/lake-county/new-lake-county-administration-center-officially-opens-in-painesville/article_799fb8f2-eace-11e9-b4d1-fb4951f5d10e.html

 

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Another article about the Bolton property and it's relationship to the New Cleveland Clinic Mentor Hospital

 

The first article mentions a lot about conservation of natural areas and sustainable landscaping as well as "maintaining the Bolton family’s stone home located on the property."

It is nice to see property developed in a way that doesn't start with clearing the entire property then waiting for funding to start construction.

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I'm definitely less hesitant about this whole development now than I used to be. Hearing the focus on preserving the Bolton house and incorporating greenery, wetlands and trees makes me very happy.

 

Honestly, Mentor has been lacking (IMO) an area like this that makes a statement, offers diverse housing stock and creates a distinct and welcoming walkable district. I'll still wait to give full judgement until if/when this actually looks like it's happening and we see detailed renderings/proposals, but I think this would be a good thing for the city.

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