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It looks like the lot closure is permanent. The parking payment machine was demolished and that ugly billboard on site is currently being demolished. It would seem the site is being cleared to make way for excavation! 

I honestly can't wait for this site to be roped off though. Seeing the amount of trash and litter strewn across the lot on Sunday mornings is appalling.

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57 minutes ago, Largue said:

It looks like the lot closure is permanent. The parking payment machine was demolished and that ugly billboard on site is currently being demolished. It would seem the site is being cleared to make way for excavation! 

I honestly can't wait for this site to be roped off though. Seeing the amount of trash and litter strewn across the lot on Sunday mornings is appalling.

 

Honest question where will this trash end up now? Also why isn't littering enforced in Cincinnati. Have cameras target individuals and read their license plate information and have them pay for littering. Easy money! Don't have the money? Then spend a few days in jail so you don't do the crime again!

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37 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

Honest question where will this trash end up now? Also why isn't littering enforced in Cincinnati. Have cameras target individuals and read their license plate information and have them pay for littering. Easy money! Don't have the money? Then spend a few days in jail so you don't do the crime again!

 

Dude your hilarious, they can ticket all the scooter people riding on the sidewalks, but they dont. They could ticket all the idiots who constantly block the streetcar tracks, but they dont. The police department is stretched thin and litter is the least of their worries. 

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57 minutes ago, troeros said:

Honest question where will this trash end up now? Also why isn't littering enforced in Cincinnati. Have cameras target individuals and read their license plate information and have them pay for littering. Easy money! Don't have the money? Then spend a few days in jail so you don't do the crime again!


Most litter on this lot is pedestrians from OTR Live. On Saturday nights, that lot had food trucks, as well as people parking their cars and pre-gaming. 

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26 minutes ago, savadams13 said:

Dude your hilarious, they can ticket all the scooter people riding on the sidewalks, but they dont. They could ticket all the idiots who constantly block the streetcar tracks, but they dont. The police department is stretched thin and litter is the least of their worries. 

 

It's not about being stretched thin. They are given more resources and more staff almost every year. The problem is the culture at CPD. They simply do not care about issues that affect inner city residents like the ones you mentioned. You need a complete culture shift if you want them to start ticketing people who park in the bus lane, ride bikes or scooters on the sidewalk, ride their obnoxiously loud motorcycles in circles around OTR for hours and hours, etc.

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3 hours ago, troeros said:

 

Honest question where will this trash end up now? Also why isn't littering enforced in Cincinnati. Have cameras target individuals and read their license plate information and have them pay for littering. Easy money! Don't have the money? Then spend a few days in jail so you don't do the crime again!

 

I know a guy...

 

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I know I've seen City of Cincinnati cars with something like "litter patrol" on the side - are they part of the Health Department? It was an early 2000s Dodge Stratus if I remember correctly (and I've seen this car in the last year or two). Would it be possible to have non-police officer force that's allowed to write citations for litter, similar to parking enforcement? I know in NYC, sanitation workers can write citations. It seems like it would pay for itself while both helping to improve the urban quality of life and clean up the environment. Somebody could stand outside of Tina's on Liberty and make thousands of dollars per hour.

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4 hours ago, Ram23 said:

I know I've seen City of Cincinnati cars with something like "litter patrol" on the side - are they part of the Health Department? It was an early 2000s Dodge Stratus if I remember correctly (and I've seen this car in the last year or two). Would it be possible to have non-police officer force that's allowed to write citations for litter, similar to parking enforcement? I know in NYC, sanitation workers can write citations. It seems like it would pay for itself while both helping to improve the urban quality of life and clean up the environment. Somebody could stand outside of Tina's on Liberty and make thousands of dollars per hour.

They do write tickets, but are mostly complaint driven. I'm not sure if they have the legal authority to cite individuals in the act, the problem is they usually they cite the property owner (including public sidewalks), even if it is someone else doing the littering. It creates a negative feedback loop where property owners are rightfully ticked off over a $500 ticket for something that blew onto their property, so no one wants to call.

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19 hours ago, Largue said:


Most litter on this lot is pedestrians from OTR Live. On Saturday nights, that lot had food trucks, as well as people parking their cars and pre-gaming. 

I can't wait until the day OTR Live closes.  That place is complete trash, literally and figuratively.  

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31 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

I can't wait until the day OTR Live closes.  That place is complete trash, literally and figuratively.  

 

I have a hard time with this statement. 

 

It's Hip Hop/R&B club. The business owner used to run Mixx Ultralounge on 12th and Main. He also recently opened Copa OTR next door (25 year and older club) and Newport Ultra Lounge.  

 

He also helps organize alot of black focused community events like the taste of soul food festival on fountain square in July. 

 

He's a good guy and gives alot to the urban core community with his businesses and helps employee minority bar tenders/security guards. 

 

I think the reality of the situation is that OTR Live attracts a culture that unfortunately doesn't give 2 sh*ts about whether they brawl in the middle of the streets, or openly pregame at the sycamore lots, or throw all their trash like the environment around them is nothing but one large garbage bag. 

 

I wish this was addressed further and I know it's a controversial statement, but these clubs constantly attracts the wrong type of people, and it's unfortunate. Because otherwise, the lines stretch out to the Drinkery, they cater so much foot traffic to that stretch of otr, they bring a lot of "night life", but the people they attract are pure trash and need to go back to church. 

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I know I could find it in this thread, but is this the lot that has Greer Alley running through the middle (302 E. 12th Street Parking)

 

Or, is it the half of lot 118 Sycamore Street? I think it's this one then that other half of the lot with the darker asphalt isn't doing anything?

 

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Just now, IAGuy39 said:

I know I could find it in this thread, but is this the lot that has Greer Alley running through the middle (302 E. 12th Street Parking)

 

Or, is it the half of lot 118 Sycamore Street? I think it's this one then that other half of the lot with the darker asphalt isn't doing anything?

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cincinnati,+OH/@39.1092825,-84.5097708,200m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x884051b1de3821f9:0x69fb7e8be4c09317!8m2!3d39.1031182!4d-84.5120196

 

I believe that is correct which is good because I would hate to see one mega development that have this continuous look. I'm sure if this development is successful, the developer will probably purchase the remaining lots in the future.

 

 

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6 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

I have a hard time with this statement. 

 

It's Hip Hop/R&B club. The business owner used to run Mixx Ultralounge on 12th and Main. He also recently opened Copa OTR next door (25 year and older club) and Newport Ultra Lounge.  

 

He also helps organize alot of black focused community events like the taste of soul food festival on fountain square in July. 

 

He's a good guy and gives alot to the urban core community with his businesses and helps employee minority bar tenders/security guards. 

 

I think the reality of the situation is that OTR Live attracts a culture that unfortunately doesn't give 2 sh*ts about whether they brawl in the middle of the streets, or openly pregame at the sycamore lots, or throw all their trash like the environment around them is nothing but one large garbage bag. 

 

I wish this was addressed further and I know it's a controversial statement, but these clubs constantly attracts the wrong type of people, and it's unfortunate. Because otherwise, the lines stretch out to the Drinkery, they cater so much foot traffic to that stretch of otr, they bring a lot of "night life", but the people they attract are pure trash and need to go back to church. 

 

He also owned the Cameo Night Club where a mass shooting took place in 2007. Clearly there is an issue with the type of people that his establishments attract.

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36 minutes ago, taestell said:

 

He also owned the Cameo Night Club where a mass shooting took place in 2007. Clearly there is an issue with the type of people that his establishments attract.

 

I believe security or lack thereof was a major issue that played a role in that massacre. 

 

OTR Live attracts sh*t human beings. But that really applies to most, "Hip Hop/Rap" clubs...But is this a racist statement to say? What does this say about the black community if I can correlate X music with X type of people. It's sad. 

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5 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

I believe security or lack thereof was a major issue that played a role in that massacre. 

 

OTR Live attracts sh*t human beings. But that really applies to most, "Hip Hop/Rap" clubs...But is this a racist statement to say? What does this say about the black community if I can correlate X music with X type of people. It's sad. 

 

Well, country music concerts attract a lot of sh*t human beings too. They're just out at Riverbend and get in their cars and drive drunk home instead of walking around downtown.

 

And I say this as someone who enjoys going to both rap and country concerts.

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18 minutes ago, DEPACincy said:

 

Well, country music concerts attract a lot of sh*t human beings too. They're just out at Riverbend and get in their cars and drive drunk home instead of walking around downtown.

 

And I say this as someone who enjoys going to both rap and country concerts.

 

They don't really beat each other in mobs in the middle of the street, busting cars in the process. Does this music attract a violent culture, full of suppressed rage. 

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1 hour ago, IAGuy39 said:

I know I could find it in this thread, but is this the lot that has Greer Alley running through the middle (302 E. 12th Street Parking)

 

Or, is it the half of lot 118 Sycamore Street? I think it's this one then that other half of the lot with the darker asphalt isn't doing anything?


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I believe all of the darker parking lots in this photo are owned by the Levines, who also own the green building facing Reading Road at the bottom right of this photo. I don't know if they have any intention to sell/develop their lots.

 

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3 minutes ago, taestell said:

I believe all of the darker parking lots in this photo are owned by the Levines, who also own the green building facing Reading Road at the bottom right of this photo. I don't know if they have any intention to sell/develop their lots.

 

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With all the parking garages coming in place (downtown Kroger, this new sycamore project, 4th and race garage, etc) who the hell is still parking on these surface lots? They are so insecure and anyone can easily do damage to your car for the fun of it. 

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Many of these lots recently put up big signs advertising "Pendleton Arts District/Restaurant Parking", so I'm guessing that the people parking here are mostly going to the restaurants in Pendleton or to Main Street.

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13 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

With all the parking garages coming in place (downtown Kroger, this new sycamore project, 4th and race garage, etc) who the hell is still parking on these surface lots? They are so insecure and anyone can easily do damage to your car for the fun of it. 

 

Me. I pay $80 to park in the lot with the slanted cars. In fact, appears my car is in that picture. Not sure what time it was taken because they look pretty empty. Usually packed during working hours.  Most of these lots are monthly spots for downtown workers, like myself, during the day and then public parking after 5pm. The Levine lots which are basically the new blacktop lots in the picture  (I don't think they own the lot directly across Sycamore from the new Sugar and Spice) have a long waiting list for monthly parking because of their price. Much cheaper than the A&D Garage. That being said, I look forward to the day I have to find a new place to park because Levine sells, but I honestly don't see that happening any time soon. I don't have any proof of that just my gut. 

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Getting rid of the one non-Levine lot is going to have a huge impact on the neighborhood.   I hope the Levines do sell eventually or 3CDC cuts some kind of deal with them.

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19 minutes ago, neilworms said:

Getting rid of the one non-Levine lot is going to have a huge impact on the neighborhood.   I hope the Levines do sell eventually or 3CDC cuts some kind of deal with them.

 

I'm glad to see projects in this city where a developer is choosing to work within the footprint of one small lot, rather than waiting until they can assemble the entire block and build one massive structure on it (::cough::Josephs::cough::).

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After every labor day, food festival, tailgate party the areas are cleaned. I don't know, but my guess is that those are city employees that work overnight to clean up. I don't see why the same people couldn't be employed to clean up a parking lot that is trashed weekly. Doesn't seem like a big deal. If it is a big deal then eating drinking in otr should have a "value added" tax that would pay for clean up.

 

If you want less shootings, I suggest you contact the NRA. They pretty much control anything to do with guns. As far as attraction of the wrong types of people go, we had a class in high school called Civics. Its not a car, rather and attitude about responsibilities of citizens. Young boys and girls (no matter their ages) seem to relish in the idea of personal freedom. That is to say, they eat the hotdog and spit out the relish and pee and what ever else they are holding. One simple thing that could possibly help the trash situation is to make sure every item sold be wrapped, contained, sipped thru paper. At least it will degrade.

 

Oh, I don't care for country or hip-hop music, give me classical anytime. 

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1 minute ago, RJohnson said:

If it is a big deal then eating drinking in otr should have a "value added" tax that would pay for clean up.

 

If 3CDC moves forward with their proposal to create a Special Improvement District covering the southern half of OTR, that would fund additional Downtown Ambassadors that would walk the streets of OTR, cleaning up litter and helping to keep the peace. I haven't heard anything about that proposal in about a year.

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1 hour ago, taestell said:

I believe all of the darker parking lots in this photo are owned by the Levines, who also own the green building facing Reading Road at the bottom right of this photo. I don't know if they have any intention to sell/develop their lots.

 

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 Does anyone know what is going on with the small lot in the bottom of this picture?  The one right next to the Police Museum which is also a lighter grey.  Address is 1110 Sycamore.   Cars always used to be packed in there like legos, but I walked by the other day and it was empty.  It is not part of the 1118 Sycamore development as far as I know.  I don't believe it is owned by the Levine's either.

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So many comments here about crowds/fights/elements that would probably get people into a massive flamewar here if this was a larger more liberal city lol.

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1 minute ago, neilworms said:

So many comments here about crowds/fights/elements that would probably get people into a massive fight if this was a larger more liberal city lol.

 

I don't think so. Same conversations happened in Philly, DC, and NYC when I lived out there.

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31 minutes ago, JoeHarmon said:

 Does anyone know what is going on with the small lot in the bottom of this picture?  The one right next to the Police Museum which is also a lighter grey.  Address is 1110 Sycamore.   Cars always used to be packed in there like legos, but I walked by the other day and it was empty.  It is not part of the 1118 Sycamore development as far as I know.  I don't believe it is owned by the Levine's either.

 

It's parked full today.  Maybe the attendant was sick or something. 

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2 hours ago, troeros said:

 

So they are green lit to start breaking ground?

 

 

They're waiting for you to give them the green light @TroyEros!! 🤣


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On 10/22/2019 at 11:53 PM, lobanio0 said:

Permit has been approved, ready to be picked up and paid for...

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On 10/2/2019 at 11:17 AM, Largue said:

It looks like the lot closure is permanent. The parking payment machine was demolished and that ugly billboard on site is currently being demolished. It would seem the site is being cleared to make way for excavation! 

I honestly can't wait for this site to be roped off though. Seeing the amount of trash and litter strewn across the lot on Sunday mornings is appalling.

 

There were cars parked their Friday night. Any clue why? I'm guessing they were illegally park? 

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On 10/27/2019 at 12:48 PM, troeros said:

There were cars parked their Friday night. Any clue why? I'm guessing they were illegally park? 

 

I actually saw that and was confused as well haha. There aren't any signs or anything saying not to park there, so I guess it's just a rogue lot for now? At one point they had "do not cross" tape set up with a  temporary no parking sign, but I think someone just took it down. It's not like the property owners that are based in Denver give a sh*t what's happening there in the meantime. The Brewdog construction workers are also using it to park on weekdays. I assumed they had some kind of agreement worked out, but maybe not. 

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