Pet Peeves!

[down4cle]

Dude posted a joke with a common theme.  you should chill out.  this is just the internet.

 

You also changed one of your posts where you claimed the Confederacy wasn't a different country.

[ck]

No, it's more like you all are mostly stealing points from the most clever Twitter users, assuming folks won't notice and passing it off on UrbanOhio as your own original thoughts. It's bullsh!t. You don't publish those statements verbatim while giving credit. It's not right. Come up with your own defense. Jesus, I have. Everyone knows that I'm a hard-core urbanist and yeah, I have controversial opinions sometimes but my expressed opinions are at least based on my own observations and analysis. They're not words that were copy-and-pasted from some quasi-public figure's Twitter account.

 

I get where you're coming from, but it's going to be hard to ask people to always be original.  We are creatures that learn through imitation and that's alright.  If something applies to a particular situation, why not use it?  If only the first person to do something could ever do it again we'd all be in a heap of trouble.

 

That said, I really enjoy your posts even when I disagree with them.  You just let it out, and it's fun to watch.  But getting on people for doing or saying something someone else did is going to be a very frustrating battle for you, one that will inevitably lead to hypocritical situations.

[David]

Tell me more, about these hypocritical situations.

[taestell]

Umm, excuse me, I did not "publish a statement verbatim" from somewhere on the internet. Obviously, I have seen people make this same joke before, that Confederate statues are participation trophies. No one in this thread had made the joke, so I did. Whenever a quip comes to mind, I assume someone has made the same quip before somewhere on the internet. I'm not about to go to Twitter and search and verify that I am the first person to ever make that particular statement... what exactly does that achieve?

 

Do you really only think it's liberals that re-state the same ideas?

[E Rocc]

I had to look back and see how we got on the Confederate theme.

 

It bugs me that only one person here understood what that date meant, but that's not a slam on anyone here.  Not even our Tweetybird POTUS acknowledged it, though Pence did.

 

Name one nation that has does something greater since Zort and his people discovered that caves were habitable.

 

 

[David]

Umm, excuse me, I did not "publish a statement verbatim" from somewhere on the internet. Obviously, I have seen people make this same joke before, that Confederate statues are participation trophies. No one in this thread had made the joke, so I did. Whenever a quip comes to mind, I assume someone has made the same quip before somewhere on the internet. I'm not about to go to Twitter and search and verify that I am the first person to ever make that particular statement... what exactly does that achieve?

 

Do you really only think it's liberals that re-state the same ideas?

 

 

 

I do think it's a big issue that folks on here don't seem to express their actual, own ideas... and simply comfortably copy/paste 140 character ideas on here from Twitter. Folks may contend that the notion of 'glory' on a public message board is absurd but I've posted more than one examples of stealing content from other online users wherein credit wasn't apparently due as it wasn't given as a byline. If you'd like, I can dig further and give more examples. I don't think you or others who I actually like on this forum, would appreciate that, though.

 

As my posts prove, I'm pro-city and my ideas tend to lean democratic and liberal, yet I'm consistently lambasted by left radicals on this forum after I express my opinions and I'm absolutely sick of it. It has caused me to turn against people who I thought I was defending on here. I don't know. I just know that I'm on the verge of abandoning this site after 13 years, as much as it has caused me to form amazing friendships and experiences, inspired me and was instrumental in me developing my own personal belief system. I'm just left feeling very disappointed.

[E Rocc]

Umm, excuse me, I did not "publish a statement verbatim" from somewhere on the internet. Obviously, I have seen people make this same joke before, that Confederate statues are participation trophies. No one in this thread had made the joke, so I did. Whenever a quip comes to mind, I assume someone has made the same quip before somewhere on the internet. I'm not about to go to Twitter and search and verify that I am the first person to ever make that particular statement... what exactly does that achieve?

 

Do you really only think it's liberals that re-state the same ideas?

 

 

 

I do think it's a big issue that folks on here don't seem to express their actual, own ideas... and simply comfortably copy/paste 140 character ideas on here from Twitter. Folks may contend that the notion of 'glory' on a public message board is absurd but I've posted more than one examples of stealing content from other online users wherein credit wasn't apparently due as it wasn't given as a byline. If you'd like, I can dig further and give more examples. I don't think you or others who I actually like on this forum, would appreciate that, though.

 

As my posts prove, I'm pro-city and my ideas tend to lean democratic and liberal, yet I'm consistently lambasted by left radicals on this forum after I express my opinions and I'm absolutely sick of it. It has caused me to turn against people who I thought I was defending on here. I don't know. I just know that I'm on the verge of abandoning this site after 13 years, as much as it has caused me to form amazing friendships and experiences, inspired me and was instrumental in me developing my own personal belief system. I'm just left feeling very disappointed.

 

Everyone has their own things that bug them.  We're a low traffic forum and as was said, no one here to impress anyone, or gain followers.  IMNSHO,  a brief quote that's opinion:  well there's no iron clad need to source it, but if you drop it, be ready to defend it.

 

That last part is key.  I've seen people come and go because they felt they embraced the ideas of what the forum "should" be and that includes cheerleading if they have what they consider a Great Cause, but certainly doesn't include questioning of premises. I've had people snap back at me for the last part, and others who never agree with me say "hey that's a fair question."  The classic example was probably the guy who was flipping out over the casino skywalk.

 

One doesn't learn anything in an echo chamber and that get's boring.

 

I could do without the "admit your wrong" mindset because I never will and will never ask anyone to, but that's just me.  On the whole the positives outweigh that.

[DarkandStormy]

Not sure if this has been posted before.

 

Spitters.

 

WTF?  Unless you're sick or have something in your mouth, why are you spitting?? Everyone else deals with their saliva just fine.  I have a couple co-workers who spit 3-4 times while they are in the bathroom...EVERY. DAMN. TIME.  What are you doing with your saliva when you're not in here, bros??  I sit right by you, I know you're not spitting.  Are you saving your saliva every hour or two to then go deposit in the urinal??  I DON'T UNDERSTAND.  Just be a normal human being and stop spitting for no reason.

 

(I'm guessing it dates back out of habit to the glory days of high school baseball or something dumb like that.)

[down4cle]

I hate spitting.  Only acceptable if you're sick, running, or a baby.

[clvlndr]

Not sure if this has been posted before.

 

Spitters.

 

WTF?  Unless you're sick or have something in your mouth, why are you spitting?? Everyone else deals with their saliva just fine.  I have a couple co-workers who spit 3-4 times while they are in the bathroom...EVERY. DAMN. TIME.  What are you doing with your saliva when you're not in here, bros??  I sit right by you, I know you're not spitting.  Are you saving your saliva every hour or two to then go deposit in the urinal??  I DON'T UNDERSTAND.  Just be a normal human being and stop spitting for no reason.

 

(I'm guessing it dates back out of habit to the glory days of high school baseball or something dumb like that.)

 

Nasty habit.  Nasty people.

[David]

It's that time of year when people clog up ERs and Urgent Care after experiencing the slightest discomfort or pretending to drop dead at the entrance so they can get rushed to a bed, to get their flu shot quicker.

 

As of about 3-4 days ago, my right ear was in a lot of pain, really sensitive to noise and my throat was sore - I was hacking up all this thick, bloody phlegm but the roads were really bad so I held off seeing a doctor until yesterday. I went to an ER because it was Sunday and I knew most Urgent Cares are closed on Sundays. I told the lady at the desk that I feel bad going to an ER over something so minor but the roads were really bad yesterday, today is Sunday and tomorrow is MLK Day and I really want to get some antibiotics in my system.

 

The waiting room was packed and she said it would be hours before I could be seen but that the Urgent Care next door was open and there would likely be less of a wait. I was really happy to hear that. I went over there and there was NO ONE in the waiting room but in the five minutes between signing in and being seen, someone else walked in to see a doctor for their 'cold.' A grown man probably in his 50s... I'm going to assume that packed waiting room in the other building next door was also full of people with colds and other life threatening illnesses. I was way out in the boonies; I highly doubt they were there to have their gun shot wounds tended to.

 

The NP that saw me, said my throat looked "horrendous!" and kinda freaked out when she saw my ear. It was just strep and a middle ear infection but they probably aren't used to people coming in with actual symptoms of concern.

 

There's so much waste in the medical field. She prescribed me a cough suppressant that she said doesn't really work but she gives it to patients to make them feel like something is being done about it. I found out that before my insurance, that generic cough syrup is over $100 at Walgreens where I picked up my meds. That's insane that people are prescribing things that don't really work but are costing SOMEBODY over $100.

[DarkandStormy]

Not sure if this has been posted before.

 

Spitters.

 

WTF?  Unless you're sick or have something in your mouth, why are you spitting?? Everyone else deals with their saliva just fine.  I have a couple co-workers who spit 3-4 times while they are in the bathroom...EVERY. DAMN. TIME.  What are you doing with your saliva when you're not in here, bros??  I sit right by you, I know you're not spitting.  Are you saving your saliva every hour or two to then go deposit in the urinal??  I DON'T UNDERSTAND.  Just be a normal human being and stop spitting for no reason.

 

(I'm guessing it dates back out of habit to the glory days of high school baseball or something dumb like that.)

 

Nasty habit.  Nasty people.

 

Update - still spitting.  Still nasty.  Still unexplained.

[freefourur]

^ Totally gross.  I don't understand how some people have to spit all the time.  It might happen to me when I am sick or intensely working out.  But not when I am just standing around.

[David]

Not sure if this has been posted before.

 

Spitters.

 

WTF?  Unless you're sick or have something in your mouth, why are you spitting?? Everyone else deals with their saliva just fine.  I have a couple co-workers who spit 3-4 times while they are in the bathroom...EVERY. DAMN. TIME.  What are you doing with your saliva when you're not in here, bros??  I sit right by you, I know you're not spitting.  Are you saving your saliva every hour or two to then go deposit in the urinal??  I DON'T UNDERSTAND.  Just be a normal human being and stop spitting for no reason.

 

(I'm guessing it dates back out of habit to the glory days of high school baseball or something dumb like that.)

 

Nasty habit.  Nasty people.

 

Update - still spitting.  Still nasty.  Still unexplained.

 

 

Maybe they chew tobacco. lol.

 

Kids do it when they're anxious or angry. Maybe they never grew out of that phase.

 

Also can be a sign of OCD.

 

[originaljbw]

Or there are people who have no ability to see the world beyond themself.

 

Stop walking suddenly in the middle of a busy sidewalk/hallway... why are these people all running or bumping me? I'm STANDING here...

 

Need to make a right turn? Stay in the left lane until you're 10 feet away and veer across all traffic.  It's your fault for being in their way?

 

Pee on a public toilet seat... why not? I'm not pooping.

 

Shred napkins, receipts, make a mess in a restaurant or concession stand because why? I'm bored and need something to do with my hands! It's children's arts and crafts time!

 

 

 

 

[David]

 

Shred napkins, receipts, make a mess in a restaurant or concession stand because why? I'm bored and need something to do with my hands! It's children's arts and crafts time!

 

 

That drove me nuts as a bartender. We had these paper coasters for people to sit their beer on and people would rip them into a million pieces. I was told it's a habit people have when they're experiencing social anxiety... something I'm sure is very common when people are going out to eat and drink. Still was really annoying.

[originaljbw]

I thought the point of drinking was to reduce social anxiety...

[ryanlammi]

When local weather stations list the snowfall totals or temperatures in every corner of the metro area - except the center of the city

 

[E Rocc]

I thought the point of drinking was to reduce social anxiety...

 

By no means does it eliminate it.

 

Label peeling is another one.  I'm guilty of that, but I also try to peel it off in one piece and I'll drop it in the empty bottle.

[mu2010]

 

Shred napkins, receipts, make a mess in a restaurant or concession stand because why? I'm bored and need something to do with my hands! It's children's arts and crafts time!

 

 

That drove me nuts as a bartender. We had these paper coasters for people to sit their beer on and people would rip them into a million pieces. I was told it's a habit people have when they're experiencing social anxiety... something I'm sure is very common when people are going out to eat and drink. Still was really annoying.

 

I've always peeled the labels off ketchup and beer bottles and the like, though I don't think I usually tear up napkins. I don't think it's social anxiety because I do it at home too, but who knows.

[David]

People on buy-sell-trade Facebook groups.

 

I joined some of them and noticed people either want way too much money for something (greedy,) sell dumb stuff no one wants (the crackheads,) or they put something up for sale at a great deal but aren't actually selling the item, just getting a feel for the market or trying to stroke their ego (the bullsh!tters.)

 

In one of them, someone was selling a really nice 2002 Honda Shadow 750 w/ 12k miles on it. Now that my brother has a motorcycle I'm interested in getting a starter bike and they said they were only asking $700 for it, claiming it just needs a new gas tank. I jumped on it (along with 1000 other people) and the guy never responded. People like him aren't actually trying to sell.

 

There was this one lady who posted used bras for sale for $10 each... I was debating being a troll on there and posting pictures of my old mis-matched socks and saying, "Since people are selling used bras on here for $10, I'm offering my old mis-matched socks for only $5 each."

 

Those Facebook groups are crazy.

 

 

 

[GCrites]

People on buy-sell-trade Facebook groups.

 

I joined some of them and noticed people either want way too much money for something (greedy,) sell dumb stuff no one wants (the crackheads,) or they put something up for sale at a great deal but aren't actually selling the item, just getting a feel for the market (the bullsh!tters.)

 

In one of them, someone was selling a really nice 2002 Honda Shadow 750 w/ 12k miles on it. Now that my brother has a motorcycle I'm interested in getting a starter bike and they said they were only asking $700 for it, claiming it just needs a new gas tank. I jumped on it (along with 1000 other people) and the guy never responded. People like him aren't actually trying to sell.

 

 

 

 

People like that should just get on craiglist to see what comparable items are for sale. But, oh, this is Facebook so some people can't do anything anywhere else like it's AOL in 1997 or something.

[Cleburger]

People on buy-sell-trade Facebook groups.

 

I joined some of them and noticed people either want way too much money for something (greedy,) sell dumb stuff no one wants (the crackheads,) or they put something up for sale at a great deal but aren't actually selling the item, just getting a feel for the market (the bullsh!tters.)

 

In one of them, someone was selling a really nice 2002 Honda Shadow 750 w/ 12k miles on it. Now that my brother has a motorcycle I'm interested in getting a starter bike and they said they were only asking $700 for it, claiming it just needs a new gas tank. I jumped on it (along with 1000 other people) and the guy never responded. People like him aren't actually trying to sell.

 

There was this one lady who posted used bras for sale for $10 each... I was debating being a troll on there and posting pictures of my old mis-matched socks and saying, "Since people are selling used bras on here for $10, I'm offering my old mis-matched socks for only $5 each."

 

Those Facebook groups are crazy.

 

 

 

 

What did you talk her down to on the bras?

[David]

People on buy-sell-trade Facebook groups.

 

I joined some of them and noticed people either want way too much money for something (greedy,) sell dumb stuff no one wants (the crackheads,) or they put something up for sale at a great deal but aren't actually selling the item, just getting a feel for the market (the bullsh!tters.)

 

In one of them, someone was selling a really nice 2002 Honda Shadow 750 w/ 12k miles on it. Now that my brother has a motorcycle I'm interested in getting a starter bike and they said they were only asking $700 for it, claiming it just needs a new gas tank. I jumped on it (along with 1000 other people) and the guy never responded. People like him aren't actually trying to sell.

 

There was this one lady who posted used bras for sale for $10 each... I was debating being a troll on there and posting pictures of my old mis-matched socks and saying, "Since people are selling used bras on here for $10, I'm offering my old mis-matched socks for only $5 each."

 

Those Facebook groups are crazy.

 

 

 

 

What did you talk her down to on the bras?

 

$4.50 each because I agreed to buy the entire collection and meet half-way.

 

 

[DarkandStormy]

Not sure if this has been posted before.

 

Spitters.

 

WTF?  Unless you're sick or have something in your mouth, why are you spitting?? Everyone else deals with their saliva just fine.  I have a couple co-workers who spit 3-4 times while they are in the bathroom...EVERY. DAMN. TIME.  What are you doing with your saliva when you're not in here, bros??  I sit right by you, I know you're not spitting.  Are you saving your saliva every hour or two to then go deposit in the urinal??  I DON'T UNDERSTAND.  Just be a normal human being and stop spitting for no reason.

 

(I'm guessing it dates back out of habit to the glory days of high school baseball or something dumb like that.)

 

Nasty habit.  Nasty people.

 

Update - still spitting.  Still nasty.  Still unexplained.

 

2nd update - The Habitual Spitter doesn't wash his hands after using the urinal.  No, we don't have urinals with auto flush.

[David]

It sounds like he chews tobacco and like so many people, thinks the world is his spit-cup.

 

I used to dip in college when I was 19-21. It all ended when my spit cup was a coke bottle and I accidentally drank from it, thinking it was my coke.

 

It is funny when you see people use the restroom and not wash their hands after. It's not like you're going to die if you don't wash your hands after using the urinal but it's good to wash your hands regularly and it's a ritual that we all adhere to after going to the restroom. I recently saw someone at work use a urinal and just dip out right after and though, "wtf?" You just declared to your coworkers in the restroom that you're nasty.

[DarkandStormy]

It sounds like he chews tobacco and like so many people, thinks the world is his spit-cup.

 

I used to dip in college when I was 19-21. It all ended when my spit cup was a coke bottle and I accidentally drank from it, thinking it was my coke.

 

I used to sit pretty close to him.  Fairly certain he doesn't chew (at least in the office).

[David]

You're dealing with a habitual spitter who doesn't even chew tobacco and doesn't wash his hands after going to the bathroom? That's insane.

 

There's a good chance you're touching surfaces where he's spitting. I doubt he has any regard for where he's even spitting. That's so gross.

 

It's time to confront him. You're far from being the only one at work, thinking this.

[Mildtraumatic]

WOW, I'll be first to post for over a year. One that's been getting to me is if you're in an elevator and at your floor but people won't wait for you to get off before entering. Another is facebook friends that wont talk to you on facebook but will anywhere else.

[originaljbw]

If it's my floor where I am getting off, I can't help but say, "No, youre right! There is more space inside the elevator than out of it! Good thinking!"

[tastybunns]

When somebody double parks, and you just so happen to have sidewalk chalk in your car to make special parking.

[Jimmy Skinner]

Grocery store checkout and the guy in front of you needs some special cigarettes that the cashier can't find.

[Mendo]

People that message me at work with greetings like "hi" or "hello" and then wait for me to respond before asking their question. I get they are trying to be polite, but I don't need the pleasantries. Just get to your question.

 

Them: hi.

Me: Hello

[5 minutes later]

Them: How are you?

Me: Fine.

[5 minutes later]

Them: can you help me with so-and-so?

 

[E Rocc]

4 hours ago, Mendo said:

People that message me at work with greetings like "hi" or "hello" and then wait for me to respond before asking their question. I get they are trying to be polite, but I don't need the pleasantries. Just get to your question.

 

Them: hi.

Me: Hello

[5 minutes later]

Them: How are you?

Me: Fine.

[5 minutes later]

Them: can you help me with so-and-so?

 

This.   I don't even like it in e-mail or conversation.   Get to the point.

[Toddguy]

That crazy Mplsite that used to be here and got banned, and is now on City Data Forums. The Columbus development thread there is just ruined because he trolls it constantly and they do nothing about it. I just browse there at times-I would never be a part of that poorly run site. I do not understand how they let people get away with that kind of trolling. I bet he has more comments in that thread than any about his new city all together. There are a couple of others on there that are nearly as bad. 

 

That site just lets the trolls run free. That is my pet peeve (I just looked at the site lol).

 

*How many forums has that nutcase been banned from?

Edited January 21, 2019 by Toddguy
spelling, etc. I have a cold, lack of sleep, and, ya know...

[GCrites]

I think he just leaves. He never got banned from CU or the Kunstler forum and I don't think he got banned here either.

[Toddguy]

39 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

I think he just leaves. He never got banned from CU or the Kunstler forum and I don't think he got banned here either.

Well how did they get him to leave? Is there a magic spell needed? voodoo? How? (The rest of the World needs to know! lol).

 

*I think he left Columbus because none of the dudes here would f*ck him or put up with him.

[Toddguy]

Insomnia! It is 3:30 am and I can't get to sleep so I am up browsing the internet!

 

 

*But Hallelujah I have moved on from the awful Rhodes Tower to the nice Great American Tower!

Edited December 18, 2019 by Toddguy

[Toddguy]

Idiots who post Newsmax conspiracy bullsh*t about the Covid-19 vaccines on science boards!

[ryanlammi]

I really hate the way most outlets report the results of Maine and Nebraska on the national map. Why can't they do something better? It really messes up the flow of the map.

 

Here's what I think they should do for the states that have congressional districts split votes. (when zoomed out, no text, or just the #s)

[Toddguy]

1 hour ago, ryanlammi said:

I really hate the way most outlets report the results of Maine and Nebraska on the national map. Why can't they do something better? It really messes up the flow of the map.

 

Here's what I think they should do for the states that have congressional districts split votes. (when zoomed out, no text, or just the #s)

Actually I would prefer the whole map look more like those two states-it would mean electoral votes would be given proportionally in all states-as I believe they should be. All of the electoral votes in huge states like California and Texas going to just one candidate seems ludicrous and discourages voting IMO.

[ryanlammi]

27 minutes ago, Toddguy said:

Actually I would prefer the whole map look more like those two states-it would mean electoral votes would be given proportionally in all states-as I believe they should be. All of the electoral votes in huge states like California and Texas going to just one candidate seems ludicrous and discourages voting IMO.

my pet peeve wasn't the way these states distribute their electoral votes. It was with the way media outlets display them so poorly.

[Toddguy]

Just now, ryanlammi said:

my pet peeve wasn't the way these states distribute their electoral votes. It was with the way media outlets display them so poorly.

Actually if all of the states were proportional in distributing electoral votes, I cannot imagine how they would display this on a map for all 50 states. It would look like a mess. So yes it does look weird now and would look much worse if all states did as these two do.

[taestell]

That's why I think it would be better to use a cartogram that represents each state's number of votes rather than its physical size and shape. There are a couple of different visual styles that could be used.

 

[David]

It really bothers me when people don't wear their mask correctly. You look like a fool not covering your nose! Did you forget that you sneeze?! Did you think Ear, Nose and Throat specialists just chose three random areas of the body?! No, you just don't mind putting others at risk so you can make a political statement.

[Brutus_buckeye]

47 minutes ago, David said:

It really bothers me when people don't wear their mask correctly. You look like a fool not covering your nose! Did you forget that you sneeze?! Did you think Ear, Nose and Throat specialists just chose three random areas of the body?! No, you just don't mind putting others at risk so you can make a political statement.

i will admit that I always pull my mask down or take it off when i have to sneeze. i dont want to walk around with that crap in my mask 

[David]

I know someone who got fired for doing that! It is practically a natural reaction. I've done it too (when no one's looking.) Sneezing into the mask is so gross, lol. Best to just do it and keep a spare mask in your pocket or coat. I usually keep spares on me anyway because I lose and forget them so much. 

Ever been in a store and someone walks in and realizes they forgot their mask but they don't want to walk all the way back to their car so they say screw it and pull their t-shirt from the collar, up over the bottom half of their face? LOL! Hey, if people can get away with thin cotton masks and bandanas that don't do anything, I don't see how that's any different. 

Edited February 6, 2021 by David

[Brutus_buckeye]

11 minutes ago, David said:

I know someone who got fired for doing that! It is practically a natural reaction. I've done it too (when no one's looking.) Sneezing into the mask is so gross, lol. Best to just do it and keep a spare mask in your pocket or coat. I usually keep spares on me anyway because I lose and forget them so much. 

Ever been in a store and someone walks in and realizes they forgot their mask but they don't want to walk all the way back to their car so they say screw it and pull their t-shirt from the collar, up over the bottom half of their face? LOL! Hey, if people can get away with thin cotton masks and bandanas that don't do anything, I don't see how that's any different. 

Fortunately, I dont worry about wearing a mask when I am at my desk working so it is not an issue. Usually I am at the grocery store when I have a sneeze coming on. I usually just remove the mask or pull it down and cover my mouth like the old days, then I put my mask back on. 

[eastvillagedon]

I wear glasses, so every so often I take down my mask to stop the fogging of the lenses and to just get some fresh air. Yesterday someone yelled at me while it was off and told me to put the (expletive) mask back on! I ignored him since I never seem to come up with a snappy response fast enough. I should have said just for that You're disinvited to my (non-existent) Super Bowl party!  This guy was the type of person you can spot from a mile away and just by looking at his eyes can tell he's seething with anger, ready to lash out at someone who is not obeying the Covid "rules." As far as I know, there's little to no risk of spreading the virus outdoors, right?

Edited February 6, 2021 by eastvillagedon

[ryanlammi]

can no one else just keep their mouth closed and plug their nose when they have to sneeze indoors with a mask? It's not great, but it's doesn't leave snot in your mask and doesn't expose others.