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15 minutes ago, Mildtraumatic said:

What regional benefits Cedar Fair being based in Sandusky may have buying all these parks across the country with the added rev? Just wondering of any positive impacts to the region in the future such as expansions, new parks etc. or anything else I may not think of. Do you think Cedar Fair has loyalty or any favorable biases to Northern Ohio now that it's becoming more of a national company??

 

Keep in mind, the new CEO of Cedar Fair has made his offices in Charlotte instead of the Sandusky headquarters location. That being said, he did publicly commit to keeping Cedar Fair's headquarters in Sandusky.

 

Also, Cedar Point is by far their most successful property. The more lucrative part of the amusement industry today is less about the parks themselves, but about the resort experience surrounding the parks. No other Cedar Fair park has as much potential as Cedar Point when it comes to a full resort experience and extended stays. 

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Charlotte, ugh. Doesn't make sense having offices there when their headquarters are in Ohio. Understand Ohio due to weather has short window to have park open. Just wish the could expand park somehow.

 

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On 6/14/2019 at 3:23 PM, Mildtraumatic said:

Charlotte, ugh. Doesn't make sense having offices there when their headquarters are in Ohio. Understand Ohio due to weather has short window to have park open. Just wish the could expand park somehow.

 

I disagree.  Business has to go on, all that matters is the official corporate office in Sandusky and in Ohio.  Period. My corporate HQ is in NYC, but my new "boss" is in Dallas.

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51 minutes ago, MyTwoSense said:

I disagree.  Business has to go on, all that matters is the official corporate office in Sandusky and in Ohio.  Period. My corporate HQ is in NYC, but my new "boss" is in Dallas.

Plan on moving to Dallas. lol jk But no fear of headquarters moving?

 

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1 hour ago, Mildtraumatic said:

Plan on moving to Dallas. lol jk But no fear of headquarters moving?

 

Military and Vets get in free with discount to family members, July 4th to 7th. 

H**L NO!   I was just thinking of buying a condo in Dallas as I need to be there almost every other week.  However, after evaluation certain points buying was not a good option.  

 

I don't think there is any chance that Cedar Fair moves its HQ

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Yeah, CP and KI are still their busiest parks and CP is the only one that is really a true “resort” so I don’t know why they’d want to leave when the Point needs the most varied operational assistance, etc. 


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Expansion! I've been hoping for this. 50 acres of undeveloped land! Wonder how they will connect it all? Found this on facebook.

 

https://www.nbc4i.com/news/cedar-point-makes-surprise-235-acre-expansion-with-purchase-of-nearby-sawmill-creek-resort/?fbclid=IwAR27weTtO1wgZCCdzWKxps1xHe-PbtbIlLaJxiepZtUd9cy0lfQQF0Quk-o

 

Guess it wont be expansion of the amusement park itself.

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Quite possibly this could lead to the demolition of Hotel Breakers, Light house Point etc for future park expansion. Have offsite lodging with shuttles. Seems like a long shot but this is what I imagine

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21 minutes ago, cincybiker said:

Quite possibly this could lead to the demolition of Hotel Breakers, Light house Point etc for future park expansion. Have offsite lodging with shuttles. Seems like a long shot but this is what I imagine

Definitely not. It's just an addition to their portfolio. They literally just built a new Breakers addition and demoed Light House Point in the same year. With the addition of Sport Force Park they most likely just building their hotel options. 

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CP has a LOT more land on the peninsula for expansion than people seem to realize. There's a ton of wasted space near Maxair where all the carnival games are, as well as back near Steel Vengeance. There's also plenty of room along the Dragster midway to add some new flat rides, and the old Dolphin stadium was removed which opens up a decent chunk of land over by Wicked Twister. 

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“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

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Meanwhile, 20 years ago...

 

 

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Man, the hype for that coaster was unreal. Not even Dragster was that big of a deal three years later. Millennium Force is the Empire State Building of roller coasters; it’s the platonic ideal and probably won’t be surpassed in that regard.


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I was doing some spring late summer cleaning yesterday, and I found a ride picture of me and my dad on the Raptor from the mid-90s. "Kick the Sky!!"

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5 hours ago, Robuu said:

I was doing some spring late summer cleaning yesterday, and I found a ride picture of me and my dad on the Raptor from the mid-90s. "Kick the Sky!!"

 

I rode it around 1994, when it was pretty-much brand-new.  I thought it was the best coaster in the park at the time and clearly "modern" compared to the others, including The Magnum, which was about 5 years old at that time, and which I didn't find very impressive.   The Corkscrew was weak.  That thing was hyped up in Cincinnati in the 80s and so I was expecting a lot more.  The Mean Streak was pretty impressive just for its scale and the later parts of the ride where you got into the superstructure of the higher hills.  

 

The Raptor was light years ahead of Top Gun, which is now The Bat, which was always a terribly weak ride.  There was a lot of hype for Top Gun and then you got there and it was just dumb.  

 

 

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^ Yeah, Top Gun opened during the few-years stretch that my family had season passes to KI. I rode it the first day it opened, and it was really disappointing. The Raptor was not disappointing, which is probably why I convinced my dad to buy our pic, lol. I think the Raptor was my favorite ride at CP as well, although I remember being impressed with the Magnum. Lots more negative-g sensation than I'd ever felt before, combined with the visual effect of looking almost like you were dropping into the lake made the Magnum really exciting.

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1 hour ago, Robuu said:

^ Yeah, Top Gun opened during the few-years stretch that my family had season passes to KI. I rode it the first day it opened, and it was really disappointing. The Raptor was not disappointing, which is probably why I convinced my dad to buy our pic, lol. I think the Raptor was my favorite ride at CP as well, although I remember being impressed with the Magnum. Lots more negative-g sensation than I'd ever felt before, combined with the visual effect of looking almost like you were dropping into the lake made the Magnum really exciting.

 

I think the big advantage that wooden coasters have over steel is that the later phase of the ride can be a different animal.  Heading back into the tangle of the taller hills is something that steel coasters can't do. 

 

The Raptor was a quantum leap over the earlier suspended coasters.  Top Gun of course used tech that was well beyond The Bat, but it was a pathetically short and uneventful ride.  Then they decided to rename Top Gun as The Bat, adding to the confusion.  

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I think Top Gun/The Bat’s Great Lake peer is Iron Dragon really (same manufacturer and style of suspended coaster). Raptor is much taller and more modern, allowing for several inversions, and is similar to Banshee at KI. I prefer (what is now) The Bat to Iron Dragon based off the sheer forces and the steeper/taller drop. 


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Exclusive: Six Flags in bid to acquire Cedar Fair-sources

 

U.S. theme park operator Six Flags Entertainment Corp (SIX.N) has approached peer Cedar Fair LP (FUN.N) with an acquisition offer, people familiar with the matter said on Wednesday.

 

Cedar Fair is considering Six Flags’ cash-and-stock offer, and there is no certainty that a deal will be reached, the sources said. Details of the offer could not be learned.

 

More below:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cedar-fair-m-a-sixflags-exclusive/exclusive-six-flags-in-bid-to-acquire-cedar-fair-sources-idUSKBN1WH1ZA

 

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Larson Loops for all!  Six Flags Sandusky, here we come!

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^ take my loop, please.

 

oh no, i hope they don't take on that shystery six flags albatross.

 

stick with improving what they have vs overextending with 18 more parks.

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This would be like if Walmart was bidding on taking over Target, they are rivals with one that is larger, cheaper and lower quality but the smaller rival is doing just fine on their own and is of higher quality. Why would anyone want this to happen? That would make all the major amusement parks in the US (with the exception of the few Seaworld/Busch Gardens) a monopoly, and a sh*tty one at that. 

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I'm hoping this is something out of nothing because that would seriously suck to all hell. I can see Cedar Fair selling a few of their smaller parks, though.

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(Not much new information than the Reuters article)

 

Six Flags pursuing purchase of Cedar Fair, including Cedar Point: Reuters reports

Link: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/10/six-flags-pursuing-purchase-of-cedar-fair-including-cedar-point-reuters-reports.html

 

I'm still upset over the Geauga Lake closure. I remember when I first heard about it as a kid and it seeming so inconceivable to me at the time. I had just gotten tall enough to ride the bigger/steel roller coasters, and now it was closing. We at least had Wild Water Kingdom which was a nice water park, but Cedar closed that 3 years ago. As much as I dislike Cedar Fair for this, it would really suck for this proposed acquisition to go through. They aren't technically competitors because they operate in different markets for the most part, but any merger on this scale is bad for consumers. And what For?

 

"As for how Cedar Fair would benefit from the transaction, Speigel said: 'It would make a lot of money for a lot of people on the Cedar Fair side.' "

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Exclusive: Cedar Fair rebuffs $4 billion offer from Six Flags - sources

 

U.S. amusement park operator Cedar Fair LP (FUN.N) has rejected a $4 billion cash-and-stock offer from larger peer Six Flags Entertainment Corp (SIX.N) as inadequate, people familiar with the matter said on Friday.

 

Cedar Fair’s decision is a blow to Six Flags, which is already the world’s largest regional theme park operator and has been looking to expand its footprint so it can increase its ticketing pricing power.

 

Six Flags had offered to acquire Cedar Fair for around $70 per share, to be paid for the most part by using Six Flags shares as currency, but also funded with a small cash component, the sources said. Cedar Fair shares were trading at around $58 right before Reuters broke news of Six Flags’ bid on Wednesday.

 

Cedar Fair responded that Six Flags’ bid was too low, not least because it did not compensate Cedar Fair shareholders for giving up on the company’s tax-advantageous publicly traded partnership. This allows the company to pay out the majority of its earnings to shareholders without first paying U.S. federal or state income taxes.

 

More below:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cedar-fair-m-a-six-flags-entmt-exclus/exclusive-cedar-fair-rebuffs-4-billion-offer-from-six-flags-sources-idUSKBN1WJ1Z3

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Six Flags parks suck. They are too corporate and full of sameness. There is nothing that makes them unique. Plus 6 Flags is always going in and out of bankruptcy  as they are controlled by Private Equity (or had been so often in the past) so I cant see this as a good thing

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15 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said:

Six Flags parks suck. They are too corporate and full of sameness. There is nothing that makes them unique. Plus 6 Flags is always going in and out of bankruptcy  as they are controlled by Private Equity (or had been so often in the past) so I cant see this as a good thing

 

Humm.  Well as someone who worked DIRECTLY with Six Flagg before we spun them off and for a long time after due to licensing.  

 

They are not corporate, but they took on too much trying to saturate local and regional markets.

 

Cedar Fair took over one of Six Flags parks.  This is a way to get a piece of six flags, in a market they solely own.  In addition, they get to be involved with the roller coaster capital of the world.

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I don't think Cedar Fair could have rejected this offer any quicker.  I have to believe that Mr. Zimmerman was laughing as he presented the offer to the board, I mean 48 hrs to turn them down .... that's pretty much a corporate slap in the face.

 

It will be interesting to see what comes in the next few year for Cedar Fair, and how they integrate their Schlitterbahn purchase.  Also, their expansion in the Sandusky area is becoming quite diverse (Sports Force Park Arena, Sawmill Creek purchase, BGSU partnership).  Some of the other parks in their portfolio are probably in need of an update too.

 

The one thing it does seem that Cedar Fair does well, is focus more on what makes their individual parks different and find ways to highlight that.  Whereas Six Flags tries to give each park the same ride.

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Cedar Point Auctioning Vintage Items From Town Hall Museum

 

If you've ever wanted a predictions machine, a World Series arcade game, or another curiosity, this is your chance.

 

Cedar Point is auctioning items from its Town Hall Museum, and the slate of biddable goods is eclectic, to say the least. Artifacts up for grabs include a coin-operated love-teller game, a vintage maple carousel organ, an antique cash register, a medical amputation kit, arcade motor bike riding seats, and a Star Trek commander's chair.

 

The auction is being conducted through Cleveland's Gray's Auctioneers. The showroom for the auctioneer is on the west side, in Gordon Square. Bidding is now open online.

 

MORE: https://patch.com/ohio/cleveland/cedar-point-auctioning-vintage-items-town-hall-museum

 

 

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Sad to see they're getting rid of this stuff, but it might be my chance to get my hands on an NCR register for cheap!

 

I wouldn't be surprised if that whole section of Frontiertown gets removed and replaced with a new coaster or some new family rides in the next 5 or so years. 


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Apologies for possibly duplicating a subject, but what are people's thoughts on the Gold Pass for next year? I've been kicking it around but also figure it'll probably be a mad house every weekend (then again, what summer weekend isn't?). Seems like it has a lot of longtime season pass members up in arms, especially with the Halloweekends issue a few weeks ago.

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As a new Gold Pass member (and a former Platinum Passholder from several years ago), I am super excited about it. Just as long as the wifey gives in to her fears about riding some of the more extreme coasters. 

 

Plus, who says you have to go on the weekends?

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11 minutes ago, musky said:

As a new Gold Pass member (and a former Platinum Passholder from several years ago), I am super excited about it. Just as long as the wifey gives in to her fears about riding some of the more extreme coasters. 

 

Plus, who says you have to go on the weekends?

 

My thoughts when thinking about it too, I'd definitely take a few weekdays off, not to mention free parking which definitely adds up quickly (but the fact you need to pay for parking on top of tix is some real Roller Coaster Tycoon stuff...but I digress hah)

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