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This is one of those ratings/surveys that actually got it right. Cleveland deserves to be very high on those lists without a doubt. Cleveland is an amazing place to visit and people need to recognize it.

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This is one of those ratings/surveys that actually got it right. Cleveland deserves to be very high on those lists without a doubt. Cleveland is an amazing place to visit and people need to recognize it.

 

Trust me.  I've made it very clear that more attention to detail and MULTIPLE VISITS TO CITIES/METRO AREAS need to be made BEFORE a determination on how "popular" a city is.

 

I've also stated that a easy to explain methodology should be included.

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I must say that in the friendliness category Cleveland is at 13, and I'm not sure where it should fall, but I expected that DC would be at the bottom (#27 out of 30), but I am surprised that they rated better than NYC which is at 30. 

 

After being in DC for quite a while, everytime I go to NY, I'm pleasantly surprised by how friendly and rather courteous it is. 

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A couple of friends of mine were in Cleveland last weekend for the first time, and they loved it!  They couldn't believe how friendly everyone was.....beginning with the RTA train driver at the airport that came out and talked to them about how the passes work.

 

Then there were the riders that came on the red line with bikes that also struck up a conversation with them...and they thought it was cool to see 3 people with bikes on the train at midnight. 

 

Then there was the RTA worker and the policemen at Tower City that directed them to the cab stand at the Ritz because the waterfront line was down...and engaged them in conversation about the best places to eat in the city.

 

They walked from Downtown to Gordon Square, through Ohio City, the WS Mkt, GLB for lunch.  Then there were the neighborhood embassadors in Gordon Square that directed them to Luxe for cocktails, and did not even bat a lash and were very helpful when asked about gay bars in the area. 

 

They loved the city!

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Magic of the mid-west

Friday, October 02, 2009, 13:29

 

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Magic-mid-west/article-1388319-detail/article.html

 

THERE'S no Mickey Mouse and you're a good couple of days' drive from Silicon Valley. This is the real America.

 

The mid-west city of Cleveland is so much more than the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which is its most famous landmark. Housing rare artefacts as well as stage wear belonging to the biggest names in music, and numerous video and audio displays, one full day may not be enough for the music fanatic.

 

...............................

 

I also love the comments at the end of the article for instance

 

I am glad to know that there are people who come to Cleveland and are happy to report the good things about this city. I hate to say it but this visitor has done so much more here than I have done in 16 years and his reporting has prompted me to make sure that I take more time to know my city and state and stop trying to run to other states and countries. My sister and nephew live in England and I will visit them next April but rest assured, I will make some local plans so that when they come back to visit me, I can take them around and actually be able to be the tour guide rather than being the tourist that actually lives here. Once again, thanks for your comments and i jope when you return, you will be able to visit the sites that you didn't have time to visit before.

 

 

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Nice story. It often takes a viewpoint from the eyes of a total outsider to get the locals to see the positive and the negative, but its good this time as a visitor there was no disappointment. I wish more of the English would invest in Cleveland. They do in Florida. It would be good to get some fresh English accents around here and maybe even some long forgotten traditional social graces!

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What Cleveland Has that Pittsburgh Wants

Elaine Labalme Wednesday, October 28, 2009

 

I have a confession to make:  I like Cleveland.  Take it back, I love Cleveland.  Maybe it's the New Girl in me and the inherent immunity to old rivalries with Pittsburgh, but I find the city by the lake to be charming and happening at the same time.

 

http://www.popcitymedia.com/features/cleveland102809.aspx

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That was a nice article, especially considering all the Pittsburgh envy that's going around here lately.

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I just want to give a little shout-out to my alma mater:  Good luck to the St. Ignatius Wildcats on Friday night as the soccer team goes for its second consecutive state title. Also, St. Ignatius is the unanimous top-ranked soccer team in the NATION and could earn its second unanimous national title in the past five years. Good luck to Ohio City's finest!

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I just want to give a little shout-out to my alma mater: Good luck to the St. Ignatius Wildcats on Friday night as the soccer team goes for its second consecutive state title. Also, St. Ignatius is the unanimous top-ranked soccer team in the NATION and could earn its second unanimous national title in the past five years. Good luck to Ohio City's finest!

Your team killed my team last week! (Boardman High) But it was kind of expected. St. Ignatius is inhumanly good at all things related to football and soccer lol.

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Ah, Boardman--Bernie Kosar's alma mater. Boardman is a very well respected foe of the Ignatius football program. From 1991 to 1996, Boardman gave Ignatius their lone loss amongst 53 football games.

 

The thing that impresses me about the Ignatius soccer team is that they can produce such prodigious academic and athletic success. Besides the coach being a top-notch guy (ex-Peace Corps volunteer), the team has an average GPA of about 3.6. The coach makes academics (as does the entire school) a very important aspect of the overall scholastic/athletic experience.

 

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GOD BLESS GLBC and CHRISTMAS ALE:

 

Christmas Ale: It tastes like Christmas in Cleveland

By Amanda Garrett, The Plain Dealer

December 08, 2009, 9:05PM

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Some Clevelanders call her winter's mistress, an irresistible temptress who warms them through the holidays.

 

Others call her a ninja whose stealth attacks repeatedly shock them, leaving them cold and alone -- and sometimes naked -- lying on a floor.

 

Men sing songs exalting her strength and pen poems pining for her return after she's gone.

 

But she's no lady.

 

This femme fatale is a beer.

 

 

MORE AT http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/12/christmas_ale_it_tastes_like_c.html

 

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And also:

 

Christmas Ale: The legend

By Amanda Garrett, The Plain Dealer

December 08, 2009, 8:55PM

 

Since November, bartenders at The Winking Lizard have poured more than 31,000 glasses of Christmas Ale, and that doesn't include pitchers, said John Lane, a partner in the local chain of restaurants.

 

"It's crazy," he said. "It's by far the No. 1 selling beer here for two months."

 

MORE AT http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/12/christmas_ale_the_legend.html

 

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Listening to NPR I heard this whole thing on Marketplace about the Cleveland restaurant scene.  Basically, how does Cleveland have such a great and growing restaurant scene when the ecenomy is bad?

 

I just love when people underestimate Cleveland and are blown away.....   

 

Quote from website below.

 

"DAN BOBKOFF: I didn't expect much from Cleveland's restaurants when I moved here three years ago. I had an East Coast snob's opinion of Midwestern cooking.

Boy, was I wrong."

 

Read or listen to here: http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/12/10/pm-cleveland-restaurants/

 

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^^ that's awesome, thanks for posting. 

 

On a similar note...about 2 months ago when I was in Boston, I ate at an Italian place in the North End with a line out the door almost 12 hrs a day.  Even with a line out the door, I would say HALF of the restaurants in Cleveland's Little Italy had better food than that place...and I did order a few things, to sample as much as the menu as possible.  not to mention, the less hectic feeling of dining in Cleveland restuarants as well.

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VERY COOL ARTICLE:

 

Getting to know the Real Cleveland: Yeah, we got history, but we've also evolved

By Michael Heaton, The Plain Dealer December 18, 2009, 12:00AM

 

LeBron James is to Jim Brown what Michael Symon is to Chef Boyardee. The genius of Cleveland, the much unappreciated genius of Cleveland, is that this city has a talent for making the old new. It's everywhere you look.

 

Newcomers to Cleveland might find it daunting to be adequately steeped in the canon of "Real Cleveland." All the sports and media history. All the unforgivable insults, the grudges that need bearing and renewing. The cascade of fond memories from a golden era.

 

HERE'S THE STORY: http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2009/12/getting_to_know_the_real_cleve.html

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On the local DC-FOX news (AP story) this morning they had a story about Melt in Lakewood, talking about the sandwiches and then the crazy promotion if you get a melt tattoo that intitles you to 25% for life.  Hey if it got you "preferred or no wait seating" it would be even better.  It turned into a cross promotion with the tattoo guy on 25th.  They said so far about 50 people got tatoo's. 

 

The anchors looked at each other funny after, because they didnt get it...  Which is likely since its hard to find people passionate about such things here.

 

All I could find is this little blurb.  Great just what they needed, more publicity just beofre I came home and tried to take another stab at going there. :|

 

Ohio Eatery Offers Discount for Sandwich Tattoos

By The Associated Press

 

"LAKEWOOD, Ohio - An Ohio restaurant is offering lifetime discounts to people willing to make an indelible display of their love for grilled cheese sandwiches."

 

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpps/news/dpg-Ohio-Eatery-Discount-Sandwich-Tattoos-fc-20091217_5133273

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So I was just thinking how great an evening it's going to be in Downtown Cleveland tonight...Buzzing with Celebs and people!!  Not to mention the decent chance of random celebs in for the Kobe vs Lebron match-up

 

Here's a quick list.... :-D

 

Cavs VS Lakers -- Lebron and Shaq vs Kobe round II.  8 pm

 

Kim Kardashian and Troy Smith Haiti fundraiser on W. 6th 9:30 pm -- http://www.cleveland.com/dining/index.ssf/2010/01/kim_kardashian_troy_smith_host.html

 

Cleveland City Club --"The State of Downtown" 12 pm -- http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/page/Downtownquarterlyseries.aspx?parent=12

 

CSU Redesigning Public Square Forum 5:30 pm-7:30 pm -- http://www.downtownclevelandalliance.com/page/Public-Square.aspx?parent=34

 

Playhouse Square "Chicago" 7:30 pm -- http://www.playhousesquare.com/Events/Events.aspx?EventID=1840

 

Pickwick and Frolic "Basile" 8 pm -- http://www.pickwickandfrolic.com/Hilarities/bio/comiclibrary/Basile.html

 

House of Blues concert (Phil Vassar) 7:30 pm

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I know that I might just be dreaming but the news about the Slavic Village Velodrome got me thinking about the olympics.  Cleveland has a ton of venues for the events with Browns Stadium, CSU Wolstein Center, the lake for sailing and rowing, plus easily accessible area on the periphery for other smaller outdoor games.  Something like the 2024 Olympics could work perfectly if America does not get it in 2020.  The Olympic village could be built where the port is now and then turned into townhomes and condos afterwards.  An olympic village right downtown on the lake would be amazing.  The city could bill itself as "The Real America" not some snobby coastal city which I think has hurt the country's chances in the last few bidding sessions.  We will be hosting the Gay Games in 2014 which actually has more athletes than the real Olympics and if the city can get itself together in the next 7-8 years I think it could have a chance.  I know some people say it would cost too much or whatever but we can dream  :-D

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^If Atlanta can have it then Cleveland can have it... but it's just a pipe dream right now.  I'm not sure I'd want to host anyway unless we can host with minimal new construction other than housing.  The improvements to the transit network would be very welcome though!

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Great article:

 

Riverside Co. CEO Stewart Kohl sees grand view from Terminal Tower

By Sarah Crump, The Plain Dealer

January 31, 2010, 8:00AM

 

Stewart Kohl, co-CEO of the Riverside Co, which has had offices in Terminal Tower since 1989, says it's a privilege to work in Cleveland's architectural icon. "The building simply reeks of history . . . I imagine the deals that were struck there," said Kohl, 54, whose private equity firm has offices on the 26th and 29th floors.

 

"I think about the Van Sweringen brothers who developed not only Terminal Tower, but also Shaker Heights, Shaker Square and the rapid [transit]. So I work in a building, live in a town, shop in a center and ride on a train all created by O.P. and Mantis over 80 years ago. Talk about vision!"

 

More at: http://www.cleveland.com/mycleveland/index.ssf/2010/01/riverside_co_ceo_stewart_kohl.html

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I didn't see this posted elsewhere, but it's so great that it's worth posting multiple times!

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http://www.cleveland.com/tipoff/index.ssf/2010/01/gay_games_judge_loved_clevelan.html

 

Gay Games judge loved Cleveland so much he moved here: Michael K. McIntyre's Tipoff

 

By Michael K. McIntyre

January 25, 2010, 7:00AM

Michael K. McIntyre

 

Cleveland didn't just win the 2014 Gay Games when it went all out to woo organizers this summer. It won the heart of the site selection committee's top judge, too.

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i was at my (manhattan) doctor the other day and he happened to mention that he was just in cleveland and he loooves the place. he said that before i told him i was from there -- so needless to say i got a real kick out of that! his daughter is attending the cleveland music academy and his family is friends with the 2nd violinist in the cleveland orchestra. he said recently they really liked l'albatross restaurant and he's even met mister brisket. yay!

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We're #1!

We're #1!  :strong:

 

 

Forbes.com:

 

America's Worst Winter Weather Cities

Tim Kiladze, 02.05.10, 05:00 PM EST

 

These areas get the most snowfall and rain, and experience the coldest annual temperatures, of the 50 measured.

 

Washingtonians might not want to put away their snow shovels just yet. That's because a second storm is expected to head their way later this week.

 

Though blizzards along the mid-Atlantic occur most every winter, strange weather patterns are happening in unlikely places across the U.S. Late last month Arizona got hit by record snowfall and rain, and Floridians suffered through an unusually cold and wet January......

 

.....Our measures show that those in Cleveland experience the worst winter months. Located on the south shore of Lake Erie, the home of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has relatively mild summers but its winters require endurance. Cleveland gets hit by lake-effect snow, averaging almost 60 inches every winter and its frigid winters help produce an average annual temperature of only 50 degrees, 10 degrees below the 50-city average.....

 

More: http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/05/weather-snow-storm-lifestyle-travel-winter-snowfall.html#

 

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We're #1!

We're #1!   :strong:

 

 

Forbes.com:

 

America's Worst Winter Weather Cities

Tim Kiladze, 02.05.10, 05:00 PM EST

 

These areas get the most snowfall and rain, and experience the coldest annual temperatures, of the 50 measured.

 

Washingtonians might not want to put away their snow shovels just yet. That's because a second storm is expected to head their way later this week.

 

Though blizzards along the mid-Atlantic occur most every winter, strange weather patterns are happening in unlikely places across the U.S. Late last month Arizona got hit by record snowfall and rain, and Floridians suffered through an unusually cold and wet January......

 

.....Our measures show that those in Cleveland experience the worst winter months. Located on the south shore of Lake Erie, the home of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has relatively mild summers but its winters require endurance. Cleveland gets hit by lake-effect snow, averaging almost 60 inches every winter and its frigid winters help produce an average annual temperature of only 50 degrees, 10 degrees below the 50-city average.....

 

More: http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/05/weather-snow-storm-lifestyle-travel-winter-snowfall.html#

 

 

This report is definitively not good for convincing my Venezuelan girlfriend to live in Cleveland.  This list most be hidden from her!

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^ Someone in Cleveland must have really, really pissed off Forbes Magazine because we're always towards the top of their crap lists!

So true I was just thinking that!!

 

Forbes hates anything north of the Mason Dixon Line and east of the Mississippi.

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One thing that bothers me most about these lists is the random use of the metropolitan area vs. the specific city limits.  The city of Cleveland (based on the CLE airport records) does not average 5ft of snow each year!  Given our proximity to Lake Erie, we actually have more temperate high's and low's.  However it does appear that these stats pertain more to NEO and the snow belt in particular.

 

If we were talking poverty and Forbes included NEO we would be one of the wealthier areas in the country, but for those comparisons, Forbes stays within the city limits. 

 

I can't explain their agenda, but I have learned to treat all lists comparing cities with suspicion.

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One thing that bothers me most about these lists is the random use of the metropolitan area vs. the specific city limits. The city of Cleveland (based on the CLE airport records) does not average 5ft of snow each year! Given our proximity to Lake Erie, we actually have more temperate high's and low's. However it does appear that these stats pertain more to NEO and the snow belt in particular.

 

If we were talking poverty and Forbes included NEO we would be one of the wealthier areas in the country, but for those comparisons, Forbes stays within the city limits.

 

I can't explain their agenda, but I have learned to treat all lists comparing cities with suspicion.

 

oh come on now, i know you and all of us for that matter can explain their agenda very well...when it come to all things midwest!

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"X" Said: "Forbes hates anything north of the Mason Dixon Line and east of the Mississippi."

 

Obviously. The chamber driven interest is to develop every last stretch of dirt possible......exploit the south for all it is. Coming soon, one mega suburb!!!! A lot of people, a lot of Bibles, a lot of Amway, a lot of traffic and cheap buildings, and glitz and ticky tacky........But little heart and soul, or purpose; no ghosts! Hey! They stereo-type the north! I remember being called "Frosted Knees"

 

Scenario down there: We are all "progressives" and we just happened to all show up in the south together. Now what? No sense of community or mission. Just a collection of people who happen to live in the same area. Been there, done it... You can have it. I'll leave places like Savannah GA. and Cha. S.C. out of that mix.

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"X" Said: "Forbes hates anything north of the Mason Dixon Line and east of the Mississippi."

 

Obviously. The chamber driven interest is to develop every last stretch of dirt possible......exploit the south for all it is. Coming soon, one mega suburb!!!! A lot of people, a lot of Bibles, a lot of Amway, a lot of traffic and cheap buildings, and glitz and ticky tacky........But little heart and soul, or purpose; no ghosts! Hey! They stereo-type the north! I remember being called "Frosted Knees"

 

Scenario down there: We are all "progressives" and we just happened to all show up in the south together. Now what? No sense of community or mission. Just a collection of people who happen to live in the same area. Been there, done it... You can have it. I'll leave places like Savannah GA. and Cha. S.C. out of that mix.

 

Pot calling the kettle black?

 

Anyway, let us pay no attention to any rankings from Forbes or Men's Health, for they are merely designed to get the attention of the afflicted or elevated cities mentioned.

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i lol at the opening line for this farve billboard article i saw in minneapolis yesterday -- yeah, no doubt!  :laugh:

 

 

have you seen this quarterback?

viking fans buy billboard in farve's hometown urging him to return

matt snyders

 

bilde?Site=DB&Date=20100204&Category=NEWS01&ArtNo=2040360&Ref=AR&Profile=1002&MaxW=550&MaxH=650&title=0

 

you didn't have to be a football fan to feel the collective ennui that gripped the metro in the wake of the viking's downfall. the letdown had minnesota feeling like an 87,000 square mile, ice-cold cleveland.

 

^ its not online yet, but here is a similar article

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/article/20100204/NEWS01/2040360/%5C-You-Brettcha%5C---Billboard-shows-fans-love-Brett-Favre

 

 

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Les miserables? Not in Cleveland, because there's plenty to cheer about city: Regina Brett

 

And speaking of drifts, our miserable weather? It's called variety. I love it all. My sister drove from Indiana to Cleveland last week and got stuck in our Appalachians of white. Three strangers pulled off Interstate 271 and dug her out. None of them would take the $20 she offered for helping.

 

"I couldn't believe it," she told me, a grin frozen to her face.

 

...........

 

I believe. You don't need a magnifying glass to see the beauty in this town. The Forbes.com site showed one photo of Cleveland: an ice-encrusted pier poking into Lake Erie. No photos of bright sailboats under a gorgeous summer sunset. No pictures of the kite festival, the Air Show, the Rock Hall shining like a giant gem when the light hits the glass just so.

 

Miserable place to live? Whatever misery we've endured has only made us stronger. Is the glass half full or half empty? Who cares.

 

Let's raise whatever is in the glass and toast this town for being a great place to call home.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/brett/blog/index.ssf/2010/02/cleveland_is_a_great_place_to.html

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How ironic that the city that invented or at a minimum first coined the phrase "Rock & Roll", home of the 1st R&R show and radio station and awesome concerts at Blossom; where 400,000 to 500,000 people congregate annually for IMO the best St Patrick's Day parties, a boat ride from Put-in-Bay, an hour away from the best amusement park in the world, etc. is the most "miserable".  That is beyond laughable..

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Part II

 

More reasons to love it here in Cleveland: Regina Brett

 

http://www.cleveland.com/brett/blog/index.ssf/2010/02/post_5.html

 

Readers who called and e-mailed about Forbes Magazine -- which last week called us the most miserable place to live in America -- either love this town or hate it. There isn't much in between.

 

Some who love this city challenged the naysayers to "love it or leave it." I say stay anyway and be part of the change you want to see.

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^What the F happened to Cleveland.bomb!  The comments (at least at the moment) are like a lovefest of C-town over there.  Is it opposite day or something?

 

My favorite comment - "living in the cleveland area is like having a cheap date with all the romance of an expensive one......you have got to love it."

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Seem like people have gotten sick of these stupid lists and since that last ranking showing Cleveland being so called miserable there has been a ton of press that says just the opposite.

 

Cleveland's 'misery'? Texans didn't notice it

By Other Voices

February 23, 2010, 4:04AM

I just saw that a Forbes.com poll listed Cleveland as the "most miserable" city in the United States. Listing facts such as crime, weather, unemployment, taxes and housing, the poll would seem to suggest that your city has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

 

I live outside of the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area. Last summer, my 12-year-old son and I took an impromptu road trip to Cleveland to see our Rangers play the Indians. We loved our visit to your city. Everyone we encountered was friendly, helpful and eager to welcome us. We thoroughly enjoyed downtown and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum, and wish we'd had more time to spend in the area.

 

All metro areas face the factors that Forbes used to name Cleveland as most miserable; Dallas is no different. I felt safer walking through downtown Cleveland than I do walking through downtown Dallas on any day of the week. My son and I enjoyed our time in your city so much that we plan on driving up there again in the near future. Cleveland rocks!

 

Mark Pakulak, Runaway Bay, Texas

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/letters/2010/02/clevelands_misery_texans_didnt.html

 

 

 

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