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What does the rear of the building abut? Is it open to an alley or something? Could the fire escape be moved to there? I have to agree that fire escape ruins an otherwise beautiful facade.

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It backs up to Republic, but it is not the same number of stories as the facade.  BTW, the Cintrifuse project involves all three buildings, with 1313 being in the middle. They have been doing demo work for a while. The building to the South is pretty much gutted.  I think it will basically be a shell and facade, based on what I saw yesterday when the door was open. 1313 still has a decent amount of character inside, at least it did the last time I was there four years ago (which happened to be on a Friday the 13th).  Sadly, all of our photos were lost in an archive format changeover.  http://www.soapboxmedia.com/features/55soapdishwhatliesbeneath.aspx

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Caseyc...

 

So you are telling me the rear of the building is shorter than the front in the number of stories? This is kind of strange, but so what? It should not be so difficult to design a fire escape from the top floor to the bottom, even if it has an offset(s) in it. That top floor has to have some rear wall holding it up. Attach the fire escape there and then offset it if the next floor down does not line up.

 

I still say that building would be so much more attractive without that fire escape across its front. It is like putting a gas mask on the Mona Lisa. Maybe you can get used to it but do you really want to?

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Adding a stair is extremely expensive and involves a ton of work, but I agree that the fire escape on this building is awful.  Building code does not actually allow new fire escapes to be built these days because they are only marginally safer than remaining in a smoke filled building to take ones chances.  Existing fire escapes are, of course, grandfathered in, but I know some jurisdictions will make you provide a new means of egress dependent upon the extent of renovations.  I don’t think Cincinnati is that picky, though, so this one will probably be allowed to stay.  I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be allowed to replace it with a newer one, though.

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I'm not a fan of fire escapes, especially when they are on the building's facade. 21c removed the Metropole's fire escape on Gano St. Does anyone know if this was as a result of stairs being added or fire suppression system being installed. Or perhaps both?


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Don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but the Jack Wood Gallery is moving from O'Bryonville to the Gateway Quarter.  I love that place; have bought three posters there.  Beautiful stuff.  I am a huge fan and very excited.  This should be a great addition.  (It said in a mailer I received that he had lost his lease at the place in O'Bryonville.) 

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I feel like this discussion has been had on here before, but why is 14th Street the Gateway Quarter? "Gateway" should be one or two blocks into OTR, at most.  I don't like how it is instead used as a term to differentiate the gentrified parts of OTR from the rest of the neighborhood. 

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Saw that Cheers to Art is opening on the corner of Vine and Centtral parkway.  This has been a tremendous success in Madeira and will do well in this location. It is basically art class with party/social approcach i.e. drink wine with friends and learn how to paint in  the process. They do a really nice job aand it's very nice night out.  Really good for the kids too during the day. 

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The term "Gateway Quarter" is kind of on the way out. It referred to the area from about Central Pkwy to 14th-ish on Vine. The gateway from Downtown. But its falling out of favor as OTR is revitalizing in larger areas now.

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I feel like this discussion has been had on here before, but why is 14th Street the Gateway Quarter? "Gateway" should be one or two blocks into OTR, at most.  I don't like how it is instead used as a term to differentiate the gentrified parts of OTR from the rest of the neighborhood.

 

The term "Gateway Quarter" is on the way out. It was used as a way to market OTR without saying OTR. Now, Over-the-Rhine is preferable to Gateway Quarter as 3CDC's portfolio of listed properties encompasses areas far beyond 12th and Vine.

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I feel like this discussion has been had on here before, but why is 14th Street the Gateway Quarter? "Gateway" should be one or two blocks into OTR, at most.  I don't like how it is instead used as a term to differentiate the gentrified parts of OTR from the rest of the neighborhood.

 

The term "Gateway Quarter" is on the way out. It was used as a way to market OTR without saying OTR. Now, Over-the-Rhine is preferable to Gateway Quarter as 3CDC's portfolio of listed properties encompasses areas far beyond 12th and Vine.

 

3CDC and the leasing agents put out a statement this year that they were doing away with the whole "Gateway Quarter" terminology, but it really hasn't taken with local mainstream media. The Enq routinely uses the phrase repeatedly, as the local TV stations.

 

Whatever, I guess. I would just saddle the abhorrent "Gateway" condo building at Central Parkway and Vine with the moniker and move on.

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3CDC and the leasing agents put out a statement this year that they were doing away with the whole "Gateway Quarter" terminology, but it really hasn't taken with local mainstream media. The Enq routinely uses the phrase repeatedly, as the local TV stations.

 

Whatever, I guess. I would just saddle the abhorrent "Gateway" condo building at Central Parkway and Vine with the moniker and move on.

 

Yeah, at some point this thread should become "Over-the-Rhine: South of Liberty".

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3CDC and the leasing agents put out a statement this year that they were doing away with the whole "Gateway Quarter" terminology, but it really hasn't taken with local mainstream media. The Enq routinely uses the phrase repeatedly, as the local TV stations.

 

It'll linger for a few years, until it becomes as meaningless as Digital Rhine.

 

Yeah, at some point this thread should become "Over-the-Rhine: South of Liberty".

 

...or it should just be combined with the OTR developments thread. North of Liberty is picking up just as much steam.

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...or it should just be combined with the OTR developments thread. North of Liberty is picking up just as much steam.

 

Really?  I'm not seeing the kind of concentrated activity north of Liberty that I see south of it.  Or am I not looking in the right places?

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...or it should just be combined with the OTR developments thread. North of Liberty is picking up just as much steam.

 

Really?  I'm not seeing the kind of concentrated activity north of Liberty that I see south of it.  Or am I not looking in the right places?

 

North of Liberty is slowly seeing development, but it's nothing compared to what 3CDC is doing.

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What's going on at the northwest corner of Elm and 15th? There used to be a home for the blind there, but now there's a giant hole in the ground.

 

More information about that here.

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The entire street level facade has been removed from the building and the first floor has been opened up.

 

pics? though I'm going to be up that way tonight... I'll take some night shots.

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That would be great.  Where?  I'm racking my brain, and I don't know that there's a ton of storefronts.  Maybe up there past the dry cleaner but before Tyger Calloway?

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^This is the best news I've heard in a while! That makes me immensely happy. Any schedule as to when it's coming down? I want to be there to watch it removed haha.

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Cintrifuse's OTR headquarters gets council members' approval

Chris Wetterich Staff reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

Cincinnati City Council’s Budget and Finance Committee approved $4.5 million on Monday for the construction of a new Over-the-Rhine headquarters for Cintrifuse, the startup incubator.

 

The 39,906-square-foot headquarters will be located from 1311 to 1315 Vine St., across the street from the Cincinnati City Center Development Corporation’s Mercer Commons apartment and condo project. 3CDC will own and manage the property.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2013/08/05/cintrifuses-otr-headquarters-gets.html

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Leeper is the man making the new Cincinnati

Aug. 11, 2013 4:13 AM 

Written by Cindi Andrews and Dan Horn

 

 

Steve Leeper arrived in Cincinnati nearly a decade ago as an outsider in a notoriously insular town, hired to be the savior of the city’s urban core.

 

It didn’t help that the Pittsburgh native came in with a Steel City attitude, bluntly pointing out weaknesses in beloved landmarks such as Fountain Square.

 

“People in Cincinnati don’t like to be told how successful some other places are,” said Doug Bolton, managing principal of Cassidy Turley and a longtime local business leader. “To have a Steelers fan come in and tell us that – it was extremely nauseous.”

 

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130811/BIZ01/308110010/Leeper-man-making-new-Cincinnati?gcheck=1

 

Interactive Timeline:  http://news.cincinnati.com/interactive/article/20130811/CINCI/130809025/Timeline-look-back-3CDC

 

Interactive Map:  http://news.cincinnati.com/interactive/article/20130809/CINCI/130809034/Interactive-map-View-3CDC-projects

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Didn't 3CDC just move into new space in one of their developments across from Washington Park?

 

 

Where will 3CDC move its headquarters?: EXCLUSIVE

Chris Wetterich Staff reporter- Cincinnati Business Courier

 

Cincinnati City Center Development Corporation (3CDC), the nonprofit developer whose job includes remaking Over-the-Rhine and programming Fountain Square and Washington Park, will move from its Race Street headquarters to new digs next summer.

 

3CDC is outgrowing its current offices and will move to the building that once housed the Art Academy of Cincinnati at 1201 Walnut St.

 

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/blog/2013/09/where-will-3cdc-move-its.html

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Interesting. Hopefully they clean up the corner of 12th and Walnut and the corner of 13th and Walnut with this move. Their personal interests will likely spark improvements of those two intersections.

 

I would also love to see the old Coffee Emporium spot at 12th and Walnut demolished and filled in along the the parking lots on either side with some quality infil. That corner is currently pretty dead (especially with Lucy Blue closing their pizza window there).

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Didn't 3CDC just move into new space in one of their developments across from Washington Park?

 

they've been in their Saengerhalle development which is just north of Washington Park for a year or two.  They have a fair amount of space already, but they're not kidding about being cramped - if you walk by you can look in the windows and see people's desks right on top of each other.

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