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Next year looks to be banner year for major league baseball and baseball stadium architecture in New York City.  Both the Yankees and the Mets are set to open new ballparks for the 2009 season. 

 

NEW YANKEE STADIUM

 

Construction cost: $1.3 billion

 

Architect: HOK Sport

 

Capacity 52,325

 

Field dimensions

Left Field    - 318 ft

Left-Center  - 399 ft

Center Field  - 408 ft

Right-Center - 385 ft

Right Field    - 314 ft 

 

Rendering of the New Yankee Stadium

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Rendering of New Yankee Stadium from the street

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Rendering of the New Yankee Stadium interior

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New Yankee Stadium under construction, March 22, 2008

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Gate 4 of the new Yankee Stadium, March 9, 2008

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NEW METS STADIUM (CITI FIELD)

 

Construction cost: $610 million

 

Architect: HOK Sport

 

Capacity: 45,000 

 

Field dimensions

Left Field    - 335 ft

Left Center  - 379 ft

Center Field - 408 ft

Right Center - 383 ft

Right Field    - 330 ft

 

Rendering of Citi Field, Jackie Robinson Rotunda

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Rendering of Citi Field

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Rendering of Citi Field

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Rendering of Citi Field interior

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Relation of Citi Field, right, to Shea Stadium, left

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Arched brick facade partially installed, 11/9/07

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Facade partially installed around Jackie Robinson Rotunda, 2/19/08

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Information, photos and renderings from www.ballparks.com and wikipedia pages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yankee_Stadium and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citi_Field.

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I do, too.

 

I think Yankees Stadium is such a waste of money, from a design point of view. The stadium literally looks exactly like the old one, only newer. Couldn't they just renovate the existing structure?

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I do, too.

 

I think Yankees Stadium is such a waste of money, from a design point of view. The stadium literally looks exactly like the old one, only newer. Couldn't they just renovate the existing structure?

Did you read why the stadium was built?  I guess not since you're asking here.

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I understand why they built a new one. I'm just saying, if they're going to build a new stadium, why not at least make it look different from the current structure? What's the point of a new stadium if it looks exactly the same?

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They tried that with White Sox stadium (new Comiskey) and they failed miserably.

 

The Yankees are all about history. They will make it a nice stadium. Architects have learned from past ballpark mistakes.

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I understand why they built a new one. I'm just saying, if they're going to build a new stadium, why not at least make it look different from the current structure? What's the point of a new stadium if it looks exactly the same?

 

You're asking the wrong people.  George Steinbrenner, George Pataki and Bloomberg are the people to ask.

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Regardless, it'll be fun to check out a game in either one.

 

I hate Yankee stadium.  I'll probably get to go on a tour of the new one soon, but I still will only sit in the box as the yankee fans are the worst.  Maybe it's my indians jersey that pisses them off?  :?

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Citi field looks great, in a neo-traditional sort of way.  Too bad it is entirely surrounded by surface lots.

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I agree that both are nice-looking parks, and the romanesque arch motif is an elegant touch.

 

However, isn't it a bit much for two ballparks--employing the same, highly-memorable motif--to open up in the same city in the same year? 

 

Maybe one team or the other would've been better off choosing a design from a different firm?  :|

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^Amen- a total dump.  Sort of fits the troglodyte fans though.

 

Citi field looks great, in a neo-traditional sort of way.  Too bad it is entirely surrounded by surface lots.

 

And the one area adjacent to Citi field that isn't surface lot (to the east) is now the object of an appalling city-sponsored land grab.

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Im not sure how to post pictures in here, but Red Bull Park, home of Red Bull New York of MLS is scheduled to open in 2009 in Harrison, New Jersey.

 

www.redbullpark.com

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Citi field looks great, in a neo-traditional sort of way.  Too bad it is entirely surrounded by surface lots.

 

Uhhh because it's in the middle of a sports complex?

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I definately like the Mets park better.


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Citi field looks great, in a neo-traditional sort of way.  Too bad it is entirely surrounded by surface lots.

 

Uhhh because it's in the middle of a sports complex?

 

Well, other cities are figuring out how to integrate stadiums, especially MLB, into their Downtowns and neighborhoods.  I would have expected NY to be a leader in this, not behind the times..

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While the Yankee stadium is just absurdly expensive, I love the design. Then again, it's New York, spend big or go home...HOK must be making a killing off these contracts.

 

Both these stadiums will be among the best in major league baseball. I'm very excited.

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That's a pretty short park for Yankee stadium in left and right at least.  Not as short as the Polo Grounds, but still short. 

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That's a pretty short park for Yankee stadium in left and right at least.  Not as short as the Polo Grounds, but still short. 

 

That's why I think Citi will be nicer, Yankee Stadium is bound by so many stupid traditions, like horrible field dimensions.

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That's a pretty short park for Yankee stadium in left and right at least.  Not as short as the Polo Grounds, but still short. 

 

That's why I think Citi will be nicer, Yankee Stadium is bound by so many stupid traditions, like horrible field dimensions.

 

Exactly.  With those dimensions, they shold have at least done a highwall out in Left, but that probably would have been to similar to a Boston type strategic design. 

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The contractor I work for, Sports Contruction Group (based in Cleveland), is doing the turf installation at the new Yankee Stadium and potentially the new Mets (Citifield) stadium. F*ck NY but bring on the business!

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Im not sure how to post pictures in here, but Red Bull Park, home of Red Bull New York of MLS is scheduled to open in 2009 in Harrison, New Jersey.

 

www.redbullpark.com

 

That will be a great soccer venue...right up there with the best (in this nation).

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Citi field looks great, in a neo-traditional sort of way.  Too bad it is entirely surrounded by surface lots.

 

Uhhh because it's in the middle of a sports complex?

 

Well, other cities are figuring out how to integrate stadiums, especially MLB, into their Downtowns and neighborhoods.  I would have expected NY to be a leader in this, not behind the times..

 

I think that's actually a pretty tricky issue.  Stadiums bring lots of traffic, noise and crowds of drunk yutzes who don't give a crap about the immediate vicinity-I'm happy Citi won't be clogging the streets and subways of Manhattan, and if I lived in an outer borough, I wouldn't want it built in my neighborhood either.  The current location works well because even though not central, it's still served well by highway, subway, commuter train, bus and even boat which is why Robert Moses decided a stadium would be built there (though he thought it would be for the Dodgers).

 

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^Amen- a total dump.  Sort of fits the troglodyte fans though.

 

Citi field looks great, in a neo-traditional sort of way.  Too bad it is entirely surrounded by surface lots.

 

And the one area adjacent to Citi field that isn't surface lot (to the east) is now the object of an appalling city-sponsored land grab.

 

Sports stadiums and appalling land grabs go together like peanuts and Cracker Jack.

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Great idea for a thread!  I've seen both of these in person last week, I personally think Citi Field will be a better ballpark.

 

Thanks.  Nice to see the enthusiastic responses.  Guess the Mets and Yanks bring that out of most people.  As far as the architecture of the two ballparks goes, here's my take...

 

I think Yankees Stadium is such a waste of money, from a design point of view. The stadium literally looks exactly like the old one, only newer. Couldn't they just renovate the existing structure?

 

I thought the same exact thing when I first heard of the New Yankee Stadium idea.  And for personal preference, I do like the neo-Ebbets Field look of the Mets ballpark.  However, I'll step up to defend the New Yankee Stadium concept from this standpoint. 

 

The Yanks were faced with a tough call.  Their fans wanted to keep the look and feeling of Old Yankee Stadium.  But the place needed some serious upgrading.  Taking a step-by-step renovation approach makes alot of sense at other vintage parks, like Wrigley Field or Fenway Park.  Tearing down Wrigley or Fenway to build new would mean virtually tearing down the surrounding neighborhood as well. 

 

However, there's no real neighborhood context around Yankee Stadium.  Plus the Yanks have tons of money to spend.  A New Yankee Stadium concept makes more sense here. 

 

Plus, there's some subtle upgrades from the old stadium - even though it looks identical.  I saw in a ESPN news story that the new stadium will be 65% larger than the old stadium to house all the additional features (luxury boxes, great hall, museum etc).

 

Also, I like the detailing on the new stone exterior.  It's a more monumental look for a new ballpark design.  The interior returns to the pre-1970's renovation look of the old Yankee Stadium and also features a monumental feel.  Not all the new ballparks need to follow the same pattern. 

 

I really like the new Mets ballpark but I like the New Yankee Stadium too.

 

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Stadiums bring lots of traffic, noise and crowds of drunk yutzes who don't give a crap about the immediate vicinity-I'm happy Citi won't be clogging the streets and subways of Manhattan, and if I lived in an outer borough, I wouldn't want it built in my neighborhood either.

 

The "drunk yutzes" at sports games aren't even that bad (unless they're trying to drive- then they should be beaten). Stadiums do help with some minimal spinoff business- mainly bars and restaurants. If they're INTEGRATED (key word integrated) into an urban neighborhood, they can be very positive in the community. In terms of parking, build them near existing large garages if possible or build a parking garage. There's nothing worse than the suburban trash asphalt fields.

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^Amen- a total dump.  Sort of fits the troglodyte fans though.

 

Citi field looks great, in a neo-traditional sort of way.  Too bad it is entirely surrounded by surface lots.

 

And the one area adjacent to Citi field that isn't surface lot (to the east) is now the object of an appalling city-sponsored land grab.

 

Sports stadiums and appalling land grabs go together like peanuts and Cracker Jack.

 

strap i am planning on getting over there with my camera one day for historic documentation purposes before evry auto shop gets the boot.

 

speaking of land grabs, believe me no one in the bx is very happy with the new yankee stadium taking over some well used city parks. people (meaning residents of the bronx not yankee fans in general) talk about nothing but the loss of the park space.

 

the current old yankee stadium may be an ugly-azz dump, but at least its still basically functional and it works. shea otoh is an outright dangerous place to see a game. i think a mets fan already fell to his death this year. horribly designed.

 

for the record both new stadiums are total bores as far as new stadiums go. the new yankee isn't in any way new, that seems rather phony to me. the new met citi is a dull throwback ebbets field by way of a lifestyle mall. ho hum.

 

bah! see yous at the cyclones games.  :-P  :laugh:

 

 

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^ The current Yankee Stadium will be torn down after the new one opens and turned into a park.  So it's just a temporary loss of a park.

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the current old yankee stadium may be an ugly-azz dump, but at least its still basically functional and it works. shea otoh is an outright dangerous place to see a game. i think a mets fan already fell to his death this year. horribly designed.

 

A fan fell to their death yesterday at Turner Field.  The only thing dangerous about baseball stadiums is getting black out drunk during the game.

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^ not so, shea is not just dangerous for drunks. ridiculous flyover stairways aside, its even much more potentially dangerous because the fans can't move around underneath the stands very well, in fact it's so small and narrow underneath there traffic is often single file in many spots. so if there ever was a problem or incident or whatever it would be complete disaster.

 

i dont blame them in a sense, historically shea was the earliest modern "cookie-cutter" stadium, so they didn't really know what they were doing yet as far as crowd control, but its badly outdated.

 

 

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^ not so, shea is not just dangerous for drunks. ridiculous flyover stairways aside, its even much more potentially dangerous because the fans can't move around underneath the stands very well, in fact it's so small and narrow underneath there traffic is often single file in many spots. so if there ever was a problem or incident or whatever it would be complete disaster.

 

i dont blame them in a sense, historically shea was the earliest modern "cookie-cutter" stadium, so they didn't really know what they were doing yet as far as crowd control, but its badly outdated.

 

 

I agree its badly outdated, but I don't recall the small and narrow feeling you describe, although I was only there once for a game and it wasn't sold out.

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some gothamist blog chit chat about the new yankee stadium & the loss-of-park controvery today:

 

 

May 26, 2008

Community Waits for Parks Around Yankee Stadium

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Photograph of old Yankee Stadium and new Yankee Stadium (taken in June 2007) by Urch on Flickr

 

While many people are excited about the opening of the new Yankee Stadium, many residents who live near the stadium have been unhappy about the delays in replacing the park land used for the new venue. According to the NY Times, costs to reate eight smaller parks have escalated to almost twice the $95 million budget to $174 million--and construction of many have not yet started.

 

A total of 20.8 acres of parkland was taken from the area--continuous green space from Macombs Dam and Mullaly Parks--for the new stadium; in return, the community gets eight smaller parks, which residents thought was a bum deal, because it spread the facilities further away and cut down 400 mature trees. While the Parks Department did create a "temporary replacement park on a parking lot in the area," a resident sniffed, "We’ve lost our biggest park, and what we’ve been reduced to is this parking lot."

 

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Photograph of Yankee Stadium and the park where the new Yankee Stadium stands (taken in June 2006) by Atomische.com on Flickr

 

The cost increases and delays are a result of higher than projected construction costs as well as surprises, like oil barrels under one of the planned park sites, and officials consider the project "on schedule." However, New Yorkers For Parks executive director Christian diPalermo said, "The Yankees couldn’t miss a season, but it was O.K. for the community to miss five years of parkland and be shut out of a community benefits agreement.”

 

http://gothamist.com/2008/05/26/community_conti_1.php

 

 

 

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Great post mrnyc.  I was looking for an aerial photo of the existing Yankee Stadium and the New Yankee Stadium being built next to it.  Very nice.

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