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I by chance got cut-off by the BYU motorcade after the game.  At first I thought it was a presidential campaign given the fury of sirens of headed in my direction, then it looked like a funeral procession with two motorcycles in the lead.  Then came the a great tangle of police cars blocking off side streets and two charter buses at the middle of it all.  I assume that they were headed toward Lunken Airport.

 

Why the hell does a football team need such an extravagant escort across the city at 10:30pm (the game had been over for hours and traffic had cleared)?  There was literally zero chance those buses could have hit any traffic at that hour. 

 

There might have been a threat.  The McMullen candidacy has revived anti-Mormonism among the orange kool aid drinking segment of the lunatic fringe.

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I saw them coming into town doing the exact same thing. I don't remember ever seeing that with other college teams that have played at UC. I remember a WVU bus getting lost and somehow trying to turn around on Probasco Street once, though that was after they had dropped off players or the band or whoever it was.

 

I do see similar cavalcades for NFL teams regularly (my office is across the street from Paul Brown). I guess you can get the police to do whatever you pay them for, and BYU certainly has no shortage of money.

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There might have been a threat.  The McMullen candidacy has revived anti-Mormonism among the orange kool aid drinking segment of the lunatic fringe.[/color]

 

I wasn't aware of any of that.  That might explain it. 

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Fire Tommy

 

Good luck with that.  Its gonna cost UC $2.4 million to fire him now under the new contract Tuberville signed on October 1.  Would have been only $1 million under the previous deal:

 

-- Initial report:  Buyouts higher for UC in new Tuberville deal:  http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2016/10/13/buyouts-higher-uc-new-tuberville-deal/92019330/

 

-- More from this follow-up:  Examining UC's Tuberville problem:  http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/blogs/daugherty-blog/2016/11/07/morning-line-117/93413280/

 

Tuberville signed a two-year contract extension Oct. 1, more than five months after UC announced it had committed to keep Tuberville through at least the 2019 season.  Under terms of the original five-year agreement with Tuberville, UC would have owed the coach a $1 million buyout if the university were to let him go this season or before Jan. 31, 2017.  The buyout would have dropped to $550,000 before the start of the 2017 season.

 

In the new deal, UC will have to pay Tuberville $2.4 million if it lets him go before Dec. 7.  The buyout payment would be $1.5 million if he's fired before Dec. 7, 2017; $1 million before Dec. 7, 2018; and $1 million before Dec. 7, 2019.

 

Beginning July 1, Tuberville's guaranteed annual salary was amended to $1.6 million through Dec. 31, 2019.  In the original contract, the coach was paid a guaranteed annual salary of $2.2 million in 2016 and 2017.  But Tuberville's retention bonuses are higher in the new deal, so he essentially would not take a pay cut as long as he receives the $600,000 in retention bonuses each year.

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And how bout the timing of Tuberville's contract extension?  October 1.  The day UC started a 5-out-of-6 game losing streak!!  Perfect timing for Tubs!!  With Tubs making a cool $2.2 million per season, its no wonder that heckler told him to stop stealing from the university!!!!

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Yeah Tubbs isn't going anywhere thanks to that deal and the lack of Big 12 expansion. The loss in ticket sales due to having a crappy team won't offset the hefty price tag of firing him, if I had to guess. I heard the luxury boxes as Nippert were a 3 year deal so they're all paid for next year, no matter what. The one glimmer of hope is that the team is seemingly composed of about 75% freshmen and sophomores.

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Tommy Tuberville resigns after four seasons coaching Cincinnati

 

Cincinnati Bearcats coach Tommy Tuberville has stepped down, the school announced Sunday.

 

Tuberville was 29-22 in four seasons at Cincinnati, including 4-8 this season.  There was speculation that Tuberville could be fired on Wednesday, the day his buyout would have been reduced from $2.4 million to $1.5 million.

 

Tuberville, 62, received a two-year extension from Cincinnati earlier this year that put him under contract with the school through 2019.  The Bearcats made a bowl game in each of his first three seasons but lost all three. ... The Bearcats lost five straight games to finish the season, missing a bowl game for the first time since 2010.

 

MORE:  http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18200236/cincinnati-bearcats-coach-tommy-tuberville-resigns

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The contract shouldn't have allowed him to stay at OSU through the playoffs, but otherwise a good move by UC. It will be tough to turn the ship around in one year, but hopefully he has some secrets that can help UC upset Michigan in the big house come September.

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^ That will always be the case now. Remember when Brian Kelly left, they were not playing in the National Championship but rather the Sugar Bowl. The Sugar Bowl was a glorified exhibition game. When Kelly left the season was over and therefore, it was a natural time to switch teams.

 

When you are in the playoff, your season is not over. You are still playing for something. That is why he is sticking around. You don't leave your position until the loose ends are tied up.

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Coaches shouldn't be able to jump ship until after their current season is completed, anyway. There are so many rules for players, and yet these coaches making millions of dollars a year have almost no accountability to their team. NCAA needs to create rules to protect teams from poaching staff before their season is over.

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It looks like former 5-star recruit Torrance Gibson is following Luke Fickell down to Cincinnati:

 

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18459122/former-buckeye-torrance-gibson-headed-cincinnati

 

Seems like a great all around athlete. He is a great addition to UC's roster, and should be able to contribute immediately on the field next season. I didn't follow the story around his suspension, but from my very brief research it sounds like he was railroaded for some reason over a consensual relationship with a tutor, so I don't think behavior is a potential problem at all.

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^ UC was supposed to suck too. They (along with UCLA) are among the top couple of teams in terms of percent freshmen. UCLA was a 15 point favorite, mostly due to the Chip Kelly hype, I imagine. Which, by the way, was at unreal levels even towards the end of the game. When UC lined up to kick a field goal toward with a few minutes left, UCLA had 12 guys on the field. The announcers actually pondered for a few minutes whether or not Chip had done that on purpose to bait UC into going for it instead of kicking the field goal. When UC waltzed into the endzone on the next play they quickly concluded that Chip would have never done such a thing.

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It looks like former 5-star recruit Torrance Gibson is following Luke Fickell down to Cincinnati:

 

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18459122/former-buckeye-torrance-gibson-headed-cincinnati

 

Seems like a great all around athlete. He is a great addition to UC's roster, and should be able to contribute immediately on the field next season. I didn't follow the story around his suspension, but from my very brief research it sounds like he was railroaded for some reason over a consensual relationship with a tutor, so I don't think behavior is a potential problem at all.

 

LOL - Great assessment!

 

From https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/10/torrance_gibson_former_ohio_st_2.html:  "Gibson redshirted in his first year in Columbus after being moved from quarterback to receiver in the first week of training camp. He was suspended by the university prior to the 2016 season, and after a quick detour at Cincinnati State (with the expressed intent of eventually transferring to Cincinnati) Gibson then ended up in junior college in Mississippi."

 

From https://www.landof10.com/ohio-state/ohio-state-football-torrance-gibson-signs-cfl-edmonton-eskimos:  "Unfortunately, he disappeared from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College for a stretch in October 2017, closing that chapter of his football career."  Then the CFL's Edmonton Eskimos announced in March 2018 that "We have signed WR Torrance Gibson."

 

Now check out his awesome 2018 CFL Edmonton Eskimo stats(!):  https://www.cfl.ca/players/torrance-gibson/163807/

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Happy to see not only a road win, but west coast PAC 12. Never an easy W. No idea what UCLA will look like the remainder of the season. UC ran the ball downhill pretty well and redshirt Freshman QB played well. 2 interior D tackles led the team in tackles, Copeland and Broughton. Rare, usually LBs or Safety. Oline looked light years better than the last 2 seasons.

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It looks like former 5-star recruit Torrance Gibson is following Luke Fickell down to Cincinnati:

 

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18459122/former-buckeye-torrance-gibson-headed-cincinnati

 

Seems like a great all around athlete. He is a great addition to UC's roster, and should be able to contribute immediately on the field next season. I didn't follow the story around his suspension, but from my very brief research it sounds like he was railroaded for some reason over a consensual relationship with a tutor, so I don't think behavior is a potential problem at all.

 

LOL - Great assessment!

 

From https://www.cleveland.com/osu/2017/10/torrance_gibson_former_ohio_st_2.html:  "Gibson redshirted in his first year in Columbus after being moved from quarterback to receiver in the first week of training camp. He was suspended by the university prior to the 2016 season, and after a quick detour at Cincinnati State (with the expressed intent of eventually transferring to Cincinnati) Gibson then ended up in junior college in Mississippi."

 

From https://www.landof10.com/ohio-state/ohio-state-football-torrance-gibson-signs-cfl-edmonton-eskimos:  "Unfortunately, he disappeared from Mississippi Gulf Coast Community College for a stretch in October 2017, closing that chapter of his football career."  Then the CFL's Edmonton Eskimos announced in March 2018 that "We have signed WR Torrance Gibson."

 

Now check out his awesome 2018 CFL Edmonton Eskimo stats(!):  https://www.cfl.ca/players/torrance-gibson/163807/

 

Seems like this young man squandered a lot of talent. It's a shame. Reminds me a bit of Gunner Kiel, who also struggled with apparent off the field issues. Hopefully Gibson can pull himself together and live a fruitful life, and hopefully OSU's railroading didn't start the decline. It's always sad to see something like this, no matter what's going on...

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Ram, I wonder what happened with Kiel? He was suspended from the team during bowl prep for the Hawaii Bowl. Rejoined the team for the next season and was not the starter. Played well his last season when he did play. He was not even an undrafted free agent.

Rumor mill was possible addiction to pain medication because he took a beating his 2nd year as a starter.

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^ UC was supposed to suck too. They (along with UCLA) are among the top couple of teams in terms of percent freshmen. UCLA was a 15 point favorite, mostly due to the Chip Kelly hype, I imagine. Which, by the way, was at unreal levels even towards the end of the game. When UC lined up to kick a field goal toward with a few minutes left, UCLA had 12 guys on the field. The announcers actually pondered for a few minutes whether or not Chip had done that on purpose to bait UC into going for it instead of kicking the field goal. When UC waltzed into the endzone on the next play they quickly concluded that Chip would have never done such a thing.

 

That was completely ridiculous. Every time UCLA did something stupid, the announcers were like "this is the sheer genius of Chip Kelly"

 

Could it be that the shine and luster of Chip Kelly may have worn off, or other coaches have caught up to his style after being out of the college game for 5 years now. It was a bit nauseating hearing the announcers completely sniff Kelly's jock the entire game.

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^ UC was supposed to suck too. They (along with UCLA) are among the top couple of teams in terms of percent freshmen. UCLA was a 15 point favorite, mostly due to the Chip Kelly hype, I imagine. Which, by the way, was at unreal levels even towards the end of the game. When UC lined up to kick a field goal toward with a few minutes left, UCLA had 12 guys on the field. The announcers actually pondered for a few minutes whether or not Chip had done that on purpose to bait UC into going for it instead of kicking the field goal. When UC waltzed into the endzone on the next play they quickly concluded that Chip would have never done such a thing.

 

That was completely ridiculous. Every time UCLA did something stupid, the announcers were like "this is the sheer genius of Chip Kelly"

 

Could it be that the shine and luster of Chip Kelly may have worn off, or other coaches have caught up to his style after being out of the college game for 5 years now. It was a bit nauseating hearing the announcers completely sniff Kelly's jock the entire game.

 

Chalk it up to one game. He doesn't have the QB, at the moment, to run his offense. Robinson was recruited to be that guy though.

He is young. For Robinson and Ridder (UC) it was their first time playing in a college game. Funny how recruiting goes, Robinson had 31 offers, Ridder had 1.

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^UC didn't get any respect when they made those big bowl appearances 7-9 years ago.

 

I couldn't hear the game, I was watching it at a bar, so I didn't hear the commentators.  It's just hilarious how year after year, sports "experts" get to be wrong, wrong, wrong. 

 

Maybe the ex-NFL players are less blatant jock sniffers than the career sports journalists, but I've never seen the data(?) plotted on a graph. 

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I am glad that there seems to be someone willing to dethrone Hayden Moore. As long as he was the starter, UC would not do anything.

LOL. He fumbles too often and has had a couple of WTF interceptions. He is OK with decent oline play. Over the past 25 years ranking QBs at UC he would fall in the middle somewhere. I liked what I saw with Ridder.

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Former Bearcat WR Shaq Washington took over this year as head coach of our mutual HS alma mater.

 

They're 2-0 by a combined 83-2 margin.

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Former Bearcat WR Shaq Washington took over this year as head coach of our mutual HS alma mater.

 

They're 2-0 by a combined 83-2 margin.

Best slot receiver I ever saw at UC. That is pretty cool. Pretty young to be Head Coach, congrats to him.

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On 9/4/2018 at 12:55 PM, KyleCincy said:
On 9/4/2018 at 12:52 PM, E Rocc said:

Former Bearcat WR Shaq Washington took over this year as head coach of our mutual HS alma mater.

 

They're 2-0 by a combined 83-2 margin.

 

Best slot receiver I ever saw at UC. That is pretty cool. Pretty young to be Head Coach, congrats to him.

 

Right now they are 12-0, heading into the regional finals against Archbishop Hoban, the defending state champs.

 

They've won both playoff games by 30, and ten of their twelve wins have been by more than three touchdowns.

 

When he won a state title at Maple, his head coach was under 30 as well.

 

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The Bearcats are quietly Doing Business this season. Anyone going to Orlando this weekend? If they can win there, they will most likely be AAC champs and hopefully start next season ranked.

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^ It's a shame the game is at UCF - College Gameday will be there and it will be one of the first big AAC games on prime time network TV. It would have been great to have that all at Nippert. It should be a good game - UCF has a good offense and UC has a great defense (top 10 in scoring and total defense), while UCF has a mediocre defense and UC has a mediocre offense.

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There is a small group of us flying to Orlando Saturday morning for the game. Even though it wont be played at Nippert, UC is going to get national airtime for athletic and educational promotion. Buddy of mine said after the UCLA game this year they had a massive uptick in people responding to the admissions dept. 

Fickell is doing great things for this team, it would be amazing if he can get this team passed UCF. They are beatable, Memphis lost by 1 and Navy put up 24 points against them. Hopefully officiating wont be as terrible as it was in Philly a couple weeks ago...

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