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From Medcity about a new study being done:

 

http://www.medcitynews.com/index.php/2009/06/cleveland-considers-a-cluster-health-care-technology-and-can-it-be-done/

 

Cleveland considers a cluster. Health care? Technology? And can it be done?

June 2, 2009 by Chris Seper 

Filed under Feature, Innovation, Top Story

 

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Euclid Avenue: A strip of opportunities and challenges

 

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Members of the health-care industry, public officials and business interests have launched a study to see whether space between the edge of Cleveland’s downtown and the hospital-heavy University Circle neighborhood could be a hub for medical business.

 

The study will look mostly at the “HealthLine” — a three-mile stretch of Euclid Avenue bookended by a neighborhood that includes Cleveland State University, St. Vincent Charity Hospital and Cuyahoga Community College on one end, and by Cleveland Clinic, University Hospitals Case Medical Center and Case Western Reserve University on the other. The study also will examine the areas around those end points and portions of E. 55th Street next to Euclid Avenue, as well as the role of the Port of Cleveland.

 

Angelou Economics, a Texas economic consulting firm, started the study in mid-May to determine whether that area could create a focused biomedical cluster in the tradition of North Carolina’s Research Triangle Park, or whether it should be broadened to include all innovation and technology companies.

 

The firm’s final recommendations and an implementation strategy should be done by September, said Jim Colson, the company’s chief operating officer.

 

An array of organizations — city and county governments, the Cleveland Port Authority, biotech advocate BioEnterprise and the non-profit Cleveland Foundation — are participating in and funding the study. BioEnterprise President Baiju Shah said the region already has created a vibrant collection of businesses and medical research that has yet to reach its potential.“We’ve struggled to create the energy because we have sprawl,” Shah said. “We have companies hidden away in different parts of our region that aren’t easily connected with one another or the [medical] institutions.”

 

Clustering can be geographic or by interests. Michigan, for example, ”clustered” its top medical universities — though they’re hours apart from one another — to better collaborate on and spin off commercially viable medical research. Akron launched a biomedical corridor project based on its concentration of polymer, engineering and orthopaedic research, among other things.

 

Euclid Avenue has its mix of opportunities and challenges. Cleveland Clinic gradually has expanded along Euclid Avenue anyway — it is in negotiations to purchase the Cleveland Playhouse, one of the large masses of well-kept properties on the street. However, many patches of the street are peppered with abandoned and toxic properties that could make a true “connection” between sides difficult.

 

Plus, some research say it’s less clear whether clusters can help increase jobs as much as they aid businesses that join the clusters. Sometimes, jobs created by businesses in a cluster are created somewhere else.

 

Shah said the health services around University Circle have outgrown that area. “How do we create a vision for what happens in 10 years that really creates a health corridor around the two major poles [university Circle and Cleveland State-area] and that takes advantage of the transformation of the HealthLine?” he asked.

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Shah said the health services around University Circle have outgrown that area.

 

This commonly held view pretty much sums up the problems with UC land use.  The Clinic is surrounded by many acres of surface parking and plans all new buildings with generous front lawns.  UH, as I understand it, is creating a new park on Euclid to bank a large empty lot.  These institutions already own more land than they know what do with. 

 

Thumbs up to a cluster of property tax paying developments centered around medical technology.  Thumbs down for treating midtown as just an extension of undisciplined institutional sprawl.

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hmmm... steel is in the air at East 83rd and carnegie (NW Corner)... I still have no idea what this is and there is no world class signage up to let me know.  :)

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That is going to be some sort of arab/lebanese (not sure which) grocery and restaurant/cafe. It was announced a couple of years ago.

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^^ah yes, I remember now!...it's been in the works for a while.  It is in fact going to be a grocery store.  I had a conversation with someone "in the know" and it was referred to as "middle eastern."  I believe the eastside Mosque is nearby, correct?.  BIG addition to the area.

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Here's something from 2007...

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/crr06-18-07.htm

 

 

9:30    Ward 6

Calendar No. 07-78:  2040 East 83rd Street Patricia Britt 

     

East 83rd and Carnegie LLC, owner and Ali Lofti Fard, appeal to construct a one-story grocery store and restaurant, proposed to be situated on consolidated parcels located in split zoning between General Retail Business and Multi-Family Districts on the west side of East 83rd Street at 2040 East 83rd Street; subject to the limitations of Section 337.08, a grocery store is not permitted in a Multi-Family District; and contrary to Sections 352.10 and 352.11, a 4’ wide frontage landscape strip is proposed where a 6’ width is required along the parking lot on East 83rd Street and Section 325.03 stipulates that parking spaces shall be at least 180 square feet and accessory uses shall be no less than 10’ from the side street line according to Section 357.05 of the Codified Ordinances. (Filed 5-15-07)

 

Obviously outdated...but the names might help.

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OK, I'm on a googling frenzy:

 

http://www.freetimes.com/stories/15/41/quothalf-the-world-is-here

 

Half The World Is Here

An Economics Student Turned Butcher Serves His Own Growing Community, And Many Others

By Jo Steigerwald

 

Once a week, Mr. Ali Lotfi-fard, an Iranian-born Muslim, drives to Bristol, Ohio, just a jog south of Middlefield. His destination: a slaughterhouse where Amish workers will help him corral the beef on the hoof needed for the week. Mr. Lotfi-fard is a halal butcher, whose store at West 95th and Detroit packs the world between its walls.

 

Tinned mackerel from Izola, Slovenia. Rice from Pakistan; rice from Thailand. Moroccan sardines. Feta cheese: French, Bulgarian, Romanian. The most fragrant green tea with jasmine from Karachi, Pakistan. Goya-brand beans and recaito. Dettol, the antiseptic cleaner mentioned in seemingly every contemporary novel from India. A phalanx of silver and gold hookah pipes. Henna hair dye. Tea samovars and china; liters of Pepsi, boxes of corn flakes. And during Ramadan, the cases of medjool dates are stacked as high as a man.

 

Want to know how a city grows? Watch what it eats. Cleveland, long a bastion of pierogis (or piroshke or pyrohy, depending on which side of what Eastern European border your great-grandmother traveled from), is now enriched by a conflation of Arabic, African and Asian tastes - all of whom have among them the commonality of a fast-growing religion, Islam.

 

Mr. Lotfi-fard (whom everyone calls Ali) and his wife, Paradise, immigrated to the United States in 1977. They came to escape the revolution brewing in Iran that ended with the overthrow of the reigning monarchy and the establishment of an Islamic republic under the Ayatollah Khomeini. Ali studied economics at Case Western Reserve University and Cleveland State, worked several jobs and raised a family of four sons with Paradise.

 

How did a student of economics become a butcher? Market demand. There was a dearth of halal butchers in Cleveland in the late '70s, and so Ali started Halal Meats to provide acceptable meat for his family. Then for friends. Finally, he and Paradise opened the store at 9418 Detroit in 1983.

 

"Halal means lawful, or permitted," explains Ali. "One takes the life of an animal with intention and respect in a humane way, and one invokes the name of God. A halal butcher must be intentional; must be humane; and must invoke the name of God." Like the kosher designation for Jews, halal signifies the divine present in the everyday, where God is in the details. Unlike kosher standards, a halal certification does not require its butchers to be overseen by a mosque official; it is enough that they are Muslim.

 

In addition to the beef from Bristol, Halal Meats has goat, lamb and chicken, whole or cut to order. His assistant, Noor Najmiah, who sports a pompadour that would make a rockabilly front man proud, travels to Detroit once a week for halal chicken, bakery and most of the store's grocery stock. "It used to be that the distributors delivered to us," says Paradise. "But since the price of gas is so high, we must go to them. Most of what is in the store we get from Detroit, which has a large Arabic community."

 

According to the American Religious Identity Survey, conducted in 2001 by the City University of New York with a sample size of 50,000 Americans, Islam ranks third on the list of the top 20 religions in the United States. Since 1980, the proportion of mosques founded in this country had increased by 62 percent, according to a 2001 study from the Hartford Institute for Religious Research.

 

Of course, Muslims have come to the United States for much longer than the past 30 years. Paradise tells this story: "About 15 years ago, there was an old Iranian man who came to the store, maybe twice. He had come to this country long ago, probably in the early 1900s. The second time he was in the store, he brought some things his mother gave him to take with him to America. He said his family wasn't interested in them and he wanted to give them to me. There was a magnificent prayer rug, a string of prayer beads, and two books. The one book was the Koran. He didn't know what the other book was, he couldn't read it." It was a cookbook. Humanity needs nourishment, physical and spiritual.

 

A prohibition on eating pork is part of the Muslim faith, as are drinking alcohol and gambling, which is one reason Ali won't sell beer or lottery tickets. The other? "If it's not good for my family," says Ali, "it's not good for yours. People tell me I'd make a lot of money in this neighborhood if I sold alcohol and lottery tickets. But it's not just about making money."

 

In fact, for most of Halal Meat's history, Ali has worked at other jobs and owned other businesses in order to support his family. "I don't do this for the money. I started this because there was no halal meat here for my family. Then friends wanted some. So, there was a demand; a market." He shrugs. "It was important to me to make it available."

 

This availability now includes supplying several Indian and Turkish restaurants in Northeast Ohio. And within the next month, Ali will break ground for a new store at East 83rd, between Euclid and Carnegie, next to the Cleveland Playhouse and down the block from the Cleveland Clinic. Named after the mystic Sufi poet, Rumi International Foods will feature prepared foods, a food court and halal catering services, in addition to halal meats and groceries.

 

At the original store, Ali takes phone orders: one whole goat, two lambs. He makes change for a sweet, lumbering man who gives out Catholic holy cards; totals up two liters of pop, dish soap and 25 pounds of flour, entering it into his book of store credit. He sells a $15 phone card for Africa and confers with Paradise.

 

"When customers are waiting, I tell them, look around you! Half the world is here! There's Somalia. Romania. Turkey, Egypt, Morocco. Pakistan. Iran."

 

All shopping for blessed meat, spices, dish soap and pop. The world goes to Ali's store and smiles.

 

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http://www.cleveland.com/goingout/index.ssf/2009/06/clevelands_agora_theater_and_b.html

 

Cleveland's Agora Theater and Ballroom to close for summer: After Dark

by John Petkovic / Plain Dealer Reporter

Wednesday June 10, 2009, 1:35 PM

 

"I'm closing for three months -- June, July and August," said Hank LoConti, owner of the Agora Theater and Ballroom, 5000 Euclid Ave., Cleveland. "I'm still renting the place for shows that other promoters are doing, but I'm not booking shows until September."...

 

 

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OK, I'm on a googling frenzy:

 

http://www.freetimes.com/stories/15/41/quothalf-the-world-is-here

 

Half The World Is Here

An Economics Student Turned Butcher Serves His Own Growing Community, And Many Others

By Jo Steigerwald

 

Once a week, Mr. Ali Lotfi-fard, an Iranian-born Muslim, drives to Bristol, Ohio, just a jog south of Middlefield. His destination: a slaughterhouse where Amish workers will help him corral the beef on the hoof needed for the week. Mr. Lotfi-fard is a halal butcher, whose store at West 95th and Detroit packs the world between its walls.

 

Tinned mackerel from Izola, Slovenia. Rice from Pakistan; rice from Thailand. Moroccan sardines. Feta cheese: French, Bulgarian, Romanian. The most fragrant green tea with jasmine from Karachi, Pakistan. Goya-brand beans and recaito. Dettol, the antiseptic cleaner mentioned in seemingly every contemporary novel from India. A phalanx of silver and gold hookah pipes. Henna hair dye. Tea samovars and china; liters of Pepsi, boxes of corn flakes. And during Ramadan, the cases of medjool dates are stacked as high as a man.

 

Want to know how a city grows? Watch what it eats. Cleveland, long a bastion of pierogis (or piroshke or pyrohy, depending on which side of what Eastern European border your great-grandmother traveled from), is now enriched by a conflation of Arabic, African and Asian tastes - all of whom have among them the commonality of a fast-growing religion, Islam.

 

Mr. Lotfi-fard (whom everyone calls Ali) and his wife, Paradise, immigrated to the United States in 1977. They came to escape the revolution brewing in Iran that ended with the overthrow of the reigning monarchy and the establishment of an Islamic republic under the Ayatollah Khomeini. Ali studied economics at Case Western Reserve University and Cleveland State, worked several jobs and raised a family of four sons with Paradise.

 

How did a student of economics become a butcher? Market demand. There was a dearth of halal butchers in Cleveland in the late '70s, and so Ali started Halal Meats to provide acceptable meat for his family. Then for friends. Finally, he and Paradise opened the store at 9418 Detroit in 1983.

 

"Halal means lawful, or permitted," explains Ali. "One takes the life of an animal with intention and respect in a humane way, and one invokes the name of God. A halal butcher must be intentional; must be humane; and must invoke the name of God." Like the kosher designation for Jews, halal signifies the divine present in the everyday, where God is in the details. Unlike kosher standards, a halal certification does not require its butchers to be overseen by a mosque official; it is enough that they are Muslim.

 

In addition to the beef from Bristol, Halal Meats has goat, lamb and chicken, whole or cut to order. His assistant, Noor Najmiah, who sports a pompadour that would make a rockabilly front man proud, travels to Detroit once a week for halal chicken, bakery and most of the store's grocery stock. "It used to be that the distributors delivered to us," says Paradise. "But since the price of gas is so high, we must go to them. Most of what is in the store we get from Detroit, which has a large Arabic community."

 

According to the American Religious Identity Survey, conducted in 2001 by the City University of New York with a sample size of 50,000 Americans, Islam ranks third on the list of the top 20 religions in the United States. Since 1980, the proportion of mosques founded in this country had increased by 62 percent, according to a 2001 study from the Hartford Institute for Religious Research.

 

Of course, Muslims have come to the United States for much longer than the past 30 years. Paradise tells this story: "About 15 years ago, there was an old Iranian man who came to the store, maybe twice. He had come to this country long ago, probably in the early 1900s. The second time he was in the store, he brought some things his mother gave him to take with him to America. He said his family wasn't interested in them and he wanted to give them to me. There was a magnificent prayer rug, a string of prayer beads, and two books. The one book was the Koran. He didn't know what the other book was, he couldn't read it." It was a cookbook. Humanity needs nourishment, physical and spiritual.

 

A prohibition on eating pork is part of the Muslim faith, as are drinking alcohol and gambling, which is one reason Ali won't sell beer or lottery tickets. The other? "If it's not good for my family," says Ali, "it's not good for yours. People tell me I'd make a lot of money in this neighborhood if I sold alcohol and lottery tickets. But it's not just about making money."

 

In fact, for most of Halal Meat's history, Ali has worked at other jobs and owned other businesses in order to support his family. "I don't do this for the money. I started this because there was no halal meat here for my family. Then friends wanted some. So, there was a demand; a market." He shrugs. "It was important to me to make it available."

 

This availability now includes supplying several Indian and Turkish restaurants in Northeast Ohio. And within the next month, Ali will break ground for a new store at East 83rd, between Euclid and Carnegie, next to the Cleveland Playhouse and down the block from the Cleveland Clinic. Named after the mystic Sufi poet, Rumi International Foods will feature prepared foods, a food court and halal catering services, in addition to halal meats and groceries.

 

At the original store, Ali takes phone orders: one whole goat, two lambs. He makes change for a sweet, lumbering man who gives out Catholic holy cards; totals up two liters of pop, dish soap and 25 pounds of flour, entering it into his book of store credit. He sells a $15 phone card for Africa and confers with Paradise.

 

"When customers are waiting, I tell them, look around you! Half the world is here! There's Somalia. Romania. Turkey, Egypt, Morocco. Pakistan. Iran."

 

All shopping for blessed meat, spices, dish soap and pop. The world goes to Ali's store and smiles.

 

 

Oh man, I am soooooo there.

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On the Agora:  I'm glad the Jigsaw misadventure didn't do any more damage than it did.  Very sad they'd close for the summer... if only there were a small entertainment district around it to add some summer foot traffic... Beachland and Grog Shop aren't closing for the summer, so it's not an industry thing.  It's a Midtown thing.  Building a research park nearby is not going to help this situation.  It only will further isolate what should be viewed as a premier attraction for this city.  That's right, we're the home of Rock & Roll, but we're going to develop a sterile environment around our most venerable rock club as if it's not even there.  Madness.

 

On the grocery store:  That is the worst urban zoning code imaginable.  Wow.  Let's examine:

 

"a grocery store is not permitted in a Multi-Family District"

 

"frontage landscape strip... a 6’ width is required along the parking lot"

 

"parking spaces shall be at least 180 square feet and accessory uses shall be no less than 10’ from the side street line"

 

All these bad decisions we keep complaining about have been required by Cleveland law.  If we're going to keep those laws on the books there's no sense in trying to redevelop anything.  The zoning code must change.  It must change and it must change NOW.  It is the A#1 overwhelming reason the wrong things get built here, in the wrong manner and in the wrong places.  We have got to do something about this and it is urgent.  Extremely simple, but urgent.

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The Agora closing for the summer is indeed an industry thing.  Summers are a tough time for midsized venues like the Agora, as outdoor shows suck up several bands each that could otherwise headline a midsize venue.  Beachland and Grog Shop are different sizes from the Agora, much smaller, and aren't drawing from the same set of bands.  They have a much larger set they can draw from to fill their venues, including many small local bands.  Also, their overhead is much lower.  I don't know about the Beachland, but I bet the Grog can open up just as a bar for the evening and still make some money- not an option for the Agora.

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On the grocery store:  That is the worst urban zoning code imaginable.  Wow.  Let's examine:

 

"a grocery store is not permitted in a Multi-Family District"

 

"frontage landscape strip... a 6’ width is required along the parking lot"

 

"parking spaces shall be at least 180 square feet and accessory uses shall be no less than 10’ from the side street line"

 

All these bad decisions we keep complaining about have been required by Cleveland law.  If we're going to keep those laws on the books there's no sense in trying to redevelop anything.  The zoning code must change.  It must change and it must change NOW.  It is the A#1 overwhelming reason the wrong things get built here, in the wrong manner and in the wrong places.  We have got to do something about this and it is urgent.  Extremely simple, but urgent.

 

Also, shouldn't these types of things be guided towards some sort of "culinary district" like has been mentioned for the area around the West Side Market or other areas, where the idea would be to group various culinary/International food stores etc., to create a bustling district?  I guess the city is more interested in this scattered auto-centric approach.       

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I don't think the City decided where these private investors were going to put their business.  I'm guessing the private investors decided where to put it, and that they wanted to be close to the large South and West Asian communities associated with the hospitals.

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Agreed about the "just a bar" option not being there for the Agora right now.  This is why I'm so dead set on making sure residential and complimentary businesses get built in that area.  More realistically... that the area is reserved for such while we still have the chance. 

 

The Grog Shop is definitely smaller, but the Beachland is comparable.  Remember that a lot of the Agora's building is not part of the venue itself.  It has the same features as the Beachland, including a smaller stage for smaller acts.  In fact the Agora has small local acts in there all the time, or at least they did recently... I have a feeling the summer closure has more to do with cleaning up the Jigsaw mess and with not having a neighborhood around it to draw on like the other two do.  I really don't think it's anything unique to the Agora as a venue.  Isolate either of the other places and they'd have similar problems.

 

Also, it is not typical for the Agora to do this.  It may not be a big moneymaker but it is undeniably a big draw.  You should have seen the (irritating) crowd for the Insane Clown Posse show.  Black Keys... although apparently they're never coming back due to Jigsaw issues.  Flaming Lips, anyone?  I don't think that one was in the summer, but wow did that block light up with people.  If you spent some time near the Agora in recent years, for the big shows and the little ones, I don't think anyone would poo-poo it like this.  It is fully legit, and I wish the community would step back and reexamine its cultural value before it gets swept away. 

 

Also, shouldn't these types of things be guided towards some sort of "culinary district" like has been mentioned for the area around the West Side Market or other areas, where the idea would be to group various culinary/International food stores etc., to create a bustling district?  I guess the city is more interested in this scattered auto-centric approach.       

 

Interesting point, and something to consider.  There's also an Arab food "district" around 117th and Lorain.  Maybe this guy thought the east side was lacking, or maybe as X said he's looking to the hospitals for business.

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Also, shouldn't these types of things be guided towards some sort of "culinary district" like has been mentioned for the area around the West Side Market or other areas, where the idea would be to group various culinary/International food stores etc., to create a bustling district?  I guess the city is more interested in this scattered auto-centric approach.       

 

Or near Galluccis!  Those would be two pretty awesome anchors for some redevelopment.

 

 

But yeah, can't blame this guy for choosing Carnegie given the high visibility for the flood of traffic there and convenience from the hospitals and eastern inner ring burbs.

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My friend's band played at the Jigsaw the previous Memorial day and they also didn't get paid.  Maybe the Lara guy has something against Akron bands.  He just shut down the HiFi club in Lakewood too.    So this great empire of rock clubs has come crashing down.  Too bad the Agora had anything to do with it. 

Pretty much once bands find out that clubs are screwing over bands by not paying them, the clubs cease to exist.  Thats pretty idiotic not to pay the Black Keys.

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On the Agora:  I'm glad the Jigsaw misadventure didn't do any more damage than it did.  Very sad they'd close for the summer... if only there were a small entertainment district around it to add some summer foot traffic... Beachland and Grog Shop aren't closing for the summer, so it's not an industry thing.  It's a Midtown thing.  Building a research park nearby is not going to help this situation.  It only will further isolate what should be viewed as a premier attraction for this city.  That's right, we're the home of Rock & Roll, but we're going to develop a sterile environment around our most venerable rock club as if it's not even there.  Madness.

 

On the grocery store:  That is the worst urban zoning code imaginable.  Wow.  Let's examine:

 

"a grocery store is not permitted in a Multi-Family District"

 

"frontage landscape strip... a 6 width is required along the parking lot"

 

"parking spaces shall be at least 180 square feet and accessory uses shall be no less than 10 from the side street line"

 

All these bad decisions we keep complaining about have been required by Cleveland law.  If we're going to keep those laws on the books there's no sense in trying to redevelop anything.  The zoning code must change.  It must change and it must change NOW.  It is the A#1 overwhelming reason the wrong things get built here, in the wrong manner and in the wrong places.  We have got to do something about this and it is urgent.  Extremely simple, but urgent.

 

For some reason, I thought these zoing codes were outdated....so this is really what it still is in 2009??  damn..

 

You're right..."a grocery store is not permitted in a Multi-Family District" ??...does this mean it's supposed to be purely residental...still trying to figure this out since there are of course Mcdonalds and BK just a few blocks away

 

"frontage landscape strip... a 6ft width is required along the parking lot"

 

"parking spaces shall be at least 180 square feet and accessory uses shall be no less than 10 from the side street line"

 

Parking guidelines...of course!  the more suburban city of Cleveland the better

 

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Again here is what I linked over if anyone is confused...from 2007 proposal to city planning:

 

Here's something from 2007...

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/crr06-18-07.htm

 

 

9:30    Ward 6

Calendar No. 07-78:  2040 East 83rd Street Patricia Britt 

     

East 83rd and Carnegie LLC, owner and Ali Lofti Fard, appeal to construct a one-story grocery store and restaurant, proposed to be situated on consolidated parcels located in split zoning between General Retail Business and Multi-Family Districts on the west side of East 83rd Street at 2040 East 83rd Street; subject to the limitations of Section 337.08, a grocery store is not permitted in a Multi-Family District; and contrary to Sections 352.10 and 352.11, a 4’ wide frontage landscape strip is proposed where a 6’ width is required along the parking lot on East 83rd Street and Section 325.03 stipulates that parking spaces shall be at least 180 square feet and accessory uses shall be no less than 10’ from the side street line according to Section 357.05 of the Codified Ordinances. (Filed 5-15-07)

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The Hi-Fi had better open again.  This is getting out of hand.  It's like John Lithgow from Footloose is in charge.

 

For grocery stores to coexist really close they'd all have to be kind of small.  There's going to be some product overlap and we wouldn't want Gallucci's or the Asian places to get cannibalized.  The near east side is great for ethnic food, definitely something to build on.  This new one will be a nice addition.  A Puerto Rican grocery on the east side would be good too, maybe up or down 55th.

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The new international food place on E. 83rd and Carnegie is another dissapointment to MidTown, although once again, it falls on the cusps of some other zoning...... Another setback from the street building with a flooded parking lot in the front. Nice.............

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I think the parking (judging soley from seeing some steel framing up as I drove by), is actually on E. 83rd.  There didn't appear to be too large a set back on the carnegie side.

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State chooses Midtown Cleveland site for regional psychiatric hospital

by Michelle Jarboe/Plain Dealer Reporter

Thursday July 02, 2009, 11:00 AM

 

The state has selected a site in Midtown Cleveland, along the revamped Euclid Avenue corridor, for a new regional psychiatric hospital...

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2009/07/state_chooses_midtown_clevelan.html

 

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Everyone in charge in this town should be yanked off stage with a big ol' hook.  We've just witnessed some truly devastating incompetence.

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I posted this in the Filling in Euclid Avenue thread, but it is applicable here as well.

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I just found out that Housing Credits were awarded (by the State of Ohio's Ohio Housing Finance Agency) for senior housing at East 73rd Street (by PIRHL Developers & Famicos Foundation) and permanent supportive housing at East 75th Street (by Cleveland Housing Network & EDEN) via a competitive process.  With the funding, it looks like both projects are in a very favorable position to move forward.

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^ That too.  Jeeminy Christmas... this is how serious our leadership vaccuum is.  Euclid Ave is being destroyed before our eyes.  Wow.

 

 

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^I wouldn't go that far, but it is certainly far more harmful than beneficial to the city.  Who would want to start a small business nextdoor to a psychiatric hospital?  Who would want to build middle class residences across the street from facilities like that? 

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I am going to reserve judgment until I better understand how this facility will be designed.  It's not like a homeless shelter in terms of causing undesirable street level activity.  Plus, as I mentioned upthread, I never really held out much hope for a vibrant residential neighborhood in this particular area (from the E 50's up to E. 72) of the corridor.

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I repeat... destroyed.  You tell me where the "good" development will happen now.  Anti-pedestrian black holes will now be interspersed from downtown to uptown so densely that there's no incentive to develop anything resembling an urban neighborhood in Midtown.  This is what I warned about earlier.

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I think it could be a fantastic area for some low-rise residential development. It reminds me a lot of the Meatpacking District .. a ton of abandoned warehouses mixed with established businesses. I, for one, would love to live in an area like that.

 

I think a lot more needs to be done in terms of planning, though, to really turn this into a first-class neighborhood, though. I think a lot of changes would need to be made. Until then, I agree .. it has no real chance as of yet.

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Hold me, the sky is falling!

 

While I don't think that this is the best location for this facility either, if done right (a big "if"), perhaps some of the 300-500 employees could help increase demand in the area for housing, food, and other services.  If so, it could be a catalyst for development.  Plus, employees could take the new HealthLine to get to work rather than autos.  What this would require, then, is the plans to call for limited parking and, hopefully, no surface lots. 

 

Although I'm trying to put a positive spin on this, I wouldn't get my hopes up.

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