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I'm not familiar with the development, but the website shows two layers of townhouses.  I'm guessing a second phase will be built up to the road?

 

There will be three phases with a total of 23 units.  The first phase is located in the center of the development and when it's totally completed it will be a square of units with open area with a water feature in the middle.

 

https://onemidtowncle.com/siteplan/

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It's nice how it worked out better for Midtown/Health Tech Corridor because now they have both a co-working space in Tech Hive with a built in coffee shop and DEALERS TIRE has a 20 year below market lease at the Victory Building, even thru they lost out on the Beauty Shoppe co-working project that was to open at the Victory Building a couple of years ago.

 

Several amenities that the Tech Hive will offer to eager entrepreneurs who rent desks and or offices in the new co-working space includes:

 

For $10 a day, startups can get a desk anywhere in the three story building, including access to a conference rooms, lounge areas, a wellness room with a shower and of course Wifi.

 

And of course with DEALERS TIRE 20 year lease at the Victory Building that area is a real sweet spot for more development including the Tech Elevator, the new University Hospitals new outpatient health center for women and children and also the developer behind the MidTown Tech Park with his Link59.  Not to mention the new Tru by Hilton a 114 room hotel being built next to the Victory Building.

 

Tru is a recent addition to the Hilton family of hotels.  Billed as youthful, hip and affordable.  The hotels have smaller-than-average rooms and aim for nightly rates of $100 or less.

 

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/03/dealer_tire_revs_up_long-vacan.html

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2018/04/digitalcs_new_tech_hive_space.html

 

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2017/07/tru_by_hilton_hotel_could_open.html

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/02/coworking_craze_hits_cleveland.html

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Seriously? At least that shipping container development at Kinsman/East 79th had some permanency to it. This looks like a temporary thing, like someone's putting a double-wide up on blocks after the storm wiped out the town. Wow.

 

 

EUCLID CORRIDOR DESIGN REVIEW

 

EC2018-xxx – Storage Container Coffee House New Construction: Seeking Final Approval

Project Location: East 65th Street and Carnegie Avenue

Project Representative: Kent Whitley, Architect

 

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The stilts are a nice touch.  Just kidding, this is garbage.  I'm surprised the architect isn't listed as Alan Smithee.

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A vacant lot gets a new use.  An entrepreneur gets to start a business.  And when the land becomes more valuable, you move the storage containers somewhere else.  Seems pretty damned win-win-win to me.

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If it had wheels I might agree.  But this appears to be a permanent building that's designed like a trailer-- and proposed for a major commercial street connecting our two hottest areas.  Instead of fixing up one of the area's many historic storefronts, we leave those to rot and build this?  Hate to get all slippery slope, but to what extent is this our plan for the city's future?  As KJP notes, it's not the first time we've seen "junkyard chic" proposed for major east-side corridors.  And nothing about any of these plans sounds temporary.

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A vacant lot gets a new use.  An entrepreneur gets to start a business.  And when the land becomes more valuable, you move the storage containers somewhere else.  Seems pretty damned win-win-win to me.

 

I defended the Kinsman/79th development. Is it that hard to put this on an actual foundation? It's not like there aren't some decent-looking double-wides out there.


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There's two proposals in a city of 80 square miles and 400,000 people.  I'd say it's not the plan to any great extent.  But if that's the investment someone wants to make on a block that is vacant, I don't see the harm.  Somebody is trying to do a thing.  The "plan", quite simply, should be "let them".

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Good for him/her. Doesn't mean I can't make fun of it as "trashy." I did and I will.


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Part of my problem is that most of the lot would remain vacant, after they put their trailer right in the middle of it.  Would not be surprised if current zoning actually requires all that lawn buffer, but that hardly makes it right.  This breaks every recognized principle of good urban design.  I guess those rules shouldn't be seen as ironclad, but why bother discussing better or worse ways to do things if it doesn't matter?

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Nobody discusses any better way to do anything.  They just made slams on what's being done.  There's a difference.

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And I never said you couldn't, just that you are wrong.

 

That would be a first. Which it wasn't. :)


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Nobody discusses any better way to do anything.  They just made slams on what's being done.  There's a difference.

 

Most of my posts in this thread discuss a better way.  In summary, look at the midtown areas of similar cities and do what they did.  Short North and Over the Rhine went straight from nasty to nice and Woodward Avenue is getting there.  Why does Cleveland need this Mad Max looking intermediate phase?  Nobody else did.  Are we really supposed to seek value in the eventual demo of this proposed building?  Why not fix it on paper while the opportunity exists? 

 

The real question is-- why is this coffee shop so determined to operate out of a trailer?  Is there no way to get them into a real storefront, no way at all?  We just have so many of those, and so much incentive to get coffee shops into them.  How can it be sane to carve up a perfectly good trailer instead?

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Are there city incentives being used to fund this coffee shop? If so, I absolutely agree that the money spent on this would be better spent renovating an actual storefront. If not, I still think this plan could be better thought out. Maybe designate the entire lot as a sort of food cart zone ala Portland? Have several of these modular shipping container looking structures clustered to create a bit of critical mass. Offer the spaces for low rent to allow for the neighborhood to participate. It would create a low cost business incubator of sorts, and if a business is successful, it can spin off to find a brick and mortar location in the city. Findlay Market has served this function pretty well in Cincinnati. Businesses start with a single stall in the market for pretty cheap. There's a community kitchen that's available so equipment costs are kept low, too. Several businesses have started out this way, including Taste of Belgium, which now has 3-4 locations in Cincy, but also has expanded to Columbus and Nashville. A one-off trailer coffee shop on a vacant lot is surely aiming pretty low.

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Yes, construction is underway on the Tru by Hilton hotel at East 70th and Euclid....

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The rapidly growing Link 59 development on Euclid Avenue at East 59th on the RTA HealthLine BRT features an office building, community hospital, full-service grocery store and street-level retail/cafes. Work is well underway on the Dave's Market....

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And here's a couple of the One Midtown townhouses

 

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Lastly, here's the Emerald Alliance X apartments, 7609 Euclid

 

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^Thanks for the pix of Link59. It's street presence is much more impressive than the renderings were.


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Update from today (had to throw a train pic in there).....

 

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Yup, snapping pictures all the way.


"Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege." -- Tommy Douglas, Scottish-born Canadian Baptist minister and the seventh Premier of Saskatchewan

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I love the Link 59 development. I like the new townhouses being built as well a lot better than the suburban style ones next to the Clinic. The property across the street from One Midtown between Baker Electric and Church Square extending to Carnegie was for sale. Its a pretty large piece of property, could be more townhomes. I can't wait until Downtown has a fuller connect to University Circle. I wonder if some taller buildings can be constructed to give a fuller skyline for the city?! I also wonder if anything will ever be done about the Warner Swasey building now that its on the market again.

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It's not often that we have a demolition request and new construction for the same site on the same CPC agenda....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2018/06152018/index.php

 

EUCLID CORRIDOR DESIGN REVIEW

 

EC2018-014 – Proposed Demolition of a 4-Story Apartment Building: Seeking Final Approval

Project Address: 1964 East 73rd Street

Project Representative: Nate Barrett, BD Euclid Avenue

 

EC2018-019 – One Midtown Townhomes New Construction: Seeking Final Approval

Project Address:  1964 East 73rd Street

Project Representative: Nate Barrett, BD Euclid Avenue


"Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege." -- Tommy Douglas, Scottish-born Canadian Baptist minister and the seventh Premier of Saskatchewan

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I wonder if that means they are extending the project down E. 73rd St.  That apt building wasn't in the original footprint of their plans.

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I was driving down Chester, so it wasn't the best view, but it appears the elevator shaft for the new hotel on Euclid between E69 and E70 has been built. It was visible popping up from behind the trees. Also, the hotel with Innova on Chester is on the 6th floor now. The new Case dental clinic next door to Innova is on the 3rd floor, and has a much larger presence from the street than I thought it would have. For some reason I had it in my mind this was going to be a single story building.

 

While all the development on the north side of Chester there could have better interaction with the street, it doesn't appear its going to be a terrible stretch. The retail with Innova sure helps. The south side is another story, with the Case/Clinic school being set back quite far.

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There's actually two elevator shafts that have been built for the Tru by Hilton hotel.


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Wasn’t sure where else to post this, but since my personal business is expanding I put it here:

 

I’m happy to say I now have my CIPP/US certification and will be expanding the practice to include cybersecurity consulting work!

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University Hospitals Rainbow Center for Women & Children to open July 9

https://www.cleveland.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2018/06/university_hospitals_rainbow_c_1.html


"Fascism begins the moment a ruling class, fearing the people may use their political democracy to gain economic democracy, begins to destroy political democracy in order to retain its power of exploitation and special privilege." -- Tommy Douglas, Scottish-born Canadian Baptist minister and the seventh Premier of Saskatchewan

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Wasn’t sure where else to post this, but since my personal business is expanding I put it here:

 

I’m happy to say I now have my CIPP/US certification and will be expanding the practice to include cybersecurity consulting work!

 

That's awesome, Yabo!  Congrats on the growth!

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I thought this all got submitted and approved already?

 

Case 17-043

3101 Euclid Building

3101 Euclid Avenue

Curtain Wall, Signage, Details

 

Ward 7

B. Jones

 

Ken Chow

Richard L. Bowen Associates

 

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