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I saw it Sunday during the Warehouse District street fest.  It looks good!  Sad to see they got rid of the granite curbs...  But Johnny's was already using the additional space to add more outdoor seating. 

 

It creates a better experience while walking down that side of the street.  They've also repainted the lines in the street to add a turning lane.

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judging by this picture that was on cleveland.com I thought they were just reusing pre-existing granite curbs.  I guess not.  Maybe they are just pre cast concrete.  There is no way they wouldn't have recycled granite curbs, they do it all the time when possible (see east 12th street).  The WHD in general is a pretty mixed bag when it comes to granite curbs... some areas have it, some don't. This whole block doesn't seem to have them.  Shame, but I'm guessing new granite curbs would have significantly increased the price...

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I wonder what's going to happen to the granite curbs? Anyone know where they went?

 

I hope they don't end up as part of a politician's pool patio.  :-P


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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It does look great....and they moved the parking meters back off the curb like Montreal, helps with snow removal I think

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It does look great....and they moved the parking meters back off the curb like Montreal, helps with snow removal I think

 

Just to clarify, they didn't move anything back off the curb.  They simply pushed the curb out.  Probably more of a cost saving measure than anything else.

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It does look great....and they moved the parking meters back off the curb like Montreal, helps with snow removal I think

 

Just to clarify, they didn't move anything back off the curb.  They simply pushed the curb out.  Probably more of a cost saving measure than anything else.

 

It looks nice.  I like that.  In winter when there are no patios the positioning of the lights will still provide enough lightening on the sidewalks.

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It seems like the latest effort in the Warehouse streetscape is a big letdown.

 

I'm talking about the northside of West 6th, north of W. St. Clair. They've removed the decorative brick and replaced it with plain ol' concrete...

 

New look is a big MINUS.

Before was a PLUS.

 

Why would they do this?

Maybe something better's coming next Spring (i.e. planters,etc.), and this is just the prelude?

 

Let's hope

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It seems like the latest effort in the Warehouse streetscape is a big letdown.

 

I'm talking about the northside of West 6th, north of W. St. Clair. They've removed the decorative brick and replaced it with plain ol' concrete...

 

New look is a big MINUS.

Before was a PLUS.

 

Why would they do this?

Maybe something better's coming next Spring (i.e. planters,etc.), and this is just the prelude?

 

Let's hope

 

what is so different, compared to the picture MayDay posted?  Do you have a visual to show us??

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No picture...the sun had already gone down when I saw it...

 

The pictures from MayDay are of the other side of West 6th.

 

 

I'm talking about the part of West 6th with XO Steakhouse (where the patio is) , Barley House, Liquid , Sushi Rock, Blind Pig etc. etc.

 

Both sides of the street they tore out the brick. In one day it was done! One day!

It doesn't look right...

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^Hopefully a prelude to something more, but I haven't heard anything about this other than the constant jackhammering late into the evening last night.

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I know they have a big tailgat party on W6 this weekend for the OSU Toledo game.  Maybe it is in preperation for something for that.

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any update on the street furniture that was supposed to be part of this project? 

 

perhaps they can borrow some from e12, where there are literally 100 chairs bolted to the sidewalk.

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I was walking the dog down West 6th Street last night when I noticed the lights on at 1281 West 6th Street - a building that's been vacant for a while.    It's connected to 1277 West 6th Street, which is also vacant. 

 

Anyway, there was a building permit on the door that seemed to be authorizing the construction of a new wall between 1281 and 1277.  Because that could be (was?) one space.  The load wall in the center is not a load bearing one.

 

I took the pictures below with my cell phone camera so they're not of McCleveland quality.  :)

 

Anyone know the history/status of this space?  There's way too many vacant spaces on West 6th Street.  Those two, the retail floor of The Hat Factory building and that small spot between Blue Point Grill and Sin nightclub.  And don't get me started on Johnson Court...

 

 

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I don't know... But I agree about the vacancies. When you theme any given area with too much of the bar/fancy bar theme, or any ONE theme, it eventually gets old, and people start to lose interest. There needs to be a mix. Perhaps more functional businesses that serve the needs of people who actually live downtown--anything that would eliminate the need to get in the car and drive somewhere would be a good rule of thumb.

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Is that a six pack in the first pic?

 

Imagine that... construction workers drinking beer on the job. You know the rules of the house -- always hide the beer before the construction contractors come over.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Is that a six pack in the first pic?

 

Imagine that... construction workers drinking beer on the job. You know the rules of the house -- always hide the beer before the construction contractors come over.

 

thank goodness I don't drink beer

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Maybe one day.... I may open up a custom aquarium design, installation and maintenance shoppe in one of these places. It will be a great show room.

 

In addition, it will have a Vegetarian Nutritional Center and Nature conservancy.

 

I fixed that for you!

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I was curious about this building and thought I remembered reading something a while back.

 

I found this article from the PD that mentions the guy (Tony George) that bought the building where the old Spy Bar was and opened Barley House, was also pursuing this building. 

 

"Barley House will be Bobby George's first foray into the Warehouse District, but it might not be the last. The 27-year-old developer is pursuing the Liberty Textile Building, a rare vacant entertainment district property owned by James Kassouf."

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/06/michelle_jarboe_a_businessman.html

 

EC, you had a shop that sold replications of Ohio Streams???  :wtf: :drunk:

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One of the reasons this building has been vacant so long, is that it has some pretty significant structural problems that would need fixed (and wouldn't be cheap)... or at least so I heard awhile back.  So if that is being taken care of, it's a great thing.

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One of the reasons this building has been vacant so long, is that it has some pretty significant structural problems that would need fixed (and wouldn't be cheap)... or at least so I heard awhile back. So if that is being taken care of, it's a great thing.

 

Also, I didnt know how much Mr. Kassouf owning it had to do with it just sitting there.

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^Probably alot.  I imagine Kassouff wants an arm and a leg for the building and has an inflated value of its worth.  A former employer was a partner in the renovation of the Spy Building which included the infill where the elevator shaft is located.  It was designed to also service the Kassouff building next door but if I recall negotiations (or Kassouff's interest in renovating his own property) went nowhere.  This would have been about 92-93.

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I was curious about this building and thought I remembered reading something a while back.

 

I found this article from the PD that mentions the guy (Tony George) that bought the building where the old Spy Bar was and opened Barley House, was also pursuing this building.

 

"Barley House will be Bobby George's first foray into the Warehouse District, but it might not be the last. The 27-year-old developer is pursuing the Liberty Textile Building, a rare vacant entertainment district property owned by James Kassouf."

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/06/michelle_jarboe_a_businessman.html

 

 

Kassouf and George?? Boy, there's a winning combination.

 

Kassouf: buy property and let it sit and rot.

George: be the silent partner, let all manner of mayhem occur there, then pretend you had no knowledge of it while the visible partner goes to jail.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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I was curious about this building and thought I remembered reading something a while back.

 

I found this article from the PD that mentions the guy (Tony George) that bought the building where the old Spy Bar was and opened Barley House, was also pursuing this building. 

 

"Barley House will be Bobby George's first foray into the Warehouse District, but it might not be the last. The 27-year-old developer is pursuing the Liberty Textile Building, a rare vacant entertainment district property owned by James Kassouf."

 

http://blog.cleveland.com/business/2008/06/michelle_jarboe_a_businessman.html

 

 

Kassouf and George?? Boy, there's a winning combination.

 

Kassouf: buy property and let it sit and rot.

George: be the silent partner, let all manner of mayhem occur there, then pretend you had no knowledge of it while the visible partner goes to jail.

 

FYI, I stated that it was Tony George but then quoted that it was Bobby George that bought the building.  It was actually Bobby who is Tony's son. 

 

EC I suspect that would be the same Kassouf.

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So Metropolitan turned into Metro and had its grand opening on Thursday.  (patio to open in a month or so)  I took a picture of their new signage on Friday.  I think it looks good - much better than that vinyl sign they used to have on the side of the building...

 

 

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That's a good picture.

I like their new look, and more is to come.

 

 

I think there has been some major progress on fixing the building down the street. If it has a particular name, I don't know it. But we were talking about this a few months back...

 

One of the reasons this building has been vacant so long, is that it has some pretty significant structural problems that would need fixed (and wouldn't be cheap)... or at least so I heard awhile back.  So if that is being taken care of, it's a great thing.

 

 

Here are a couple pics from this past week. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would seem that an entire new back wall has been built. Now, will they re-brick over this?

 

DSCF2508.jpg

 

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Over on W. 9th St, Sunset Lounge closed a few weeks ago for remodeling.

Here's what's coming (I'm glad):

 

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they should rebrick over it or something, what you are seeing there is structural CMU, which is not an exterior solution in most buildings. I could be wrong though, but from what i CAN see it doesnt seem to be fit for a facia brick.

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they should rebrick over it or something, what you are seeing there is structural CMU, which is not an exterior solution in most buildings. I could be wrong though, but from what i CAN see it doesnt seem to be fit for a facia brick.

 

Although when they brick over cinderblock like that dont they usually have those metal things sticking out that they use to anchor the exterior brick?

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