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^This seems pretty different from Amazon HQ2, which is being staffed from the ground up, not relocated. I'm not sure if there's been a recent equivalent to this kind of move. GE's workforce relocation was relatively tiny. Boeing, I guess, but they left tons behind in Seattle too, I think. 

 

 

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THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2019

Sherwin-Williams finally admits new HQ, R&D site search

 

After months of denials, Sherwin-Williams (SHW) finally has acknowledged publicly and officially that it is seeking a new home for its global headquarters and research-development facilities.

In a press release shared today, SHW Chairman and Chief Executive Officer John G. Morikis admitted what has been reported here at NEOtrans for nearly a year -- that the global coatings giant has outgrown its scattered offices throughout Greater Cleveland and is looking for a new HQ+R&D.

“The company’s significant growth and global expansion over the last several decades has resulted in a less than optimal configuration of headquarters, offices and R&D facilities across multiple locations,” Morikis said.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/09/sherwin-williams-finally-admits-new-hq.html

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1 minute ago, StapHanger said:

^This seems pretty different from Amazon HQ2, which is being staffed from the ground up, not relocated. I'm not sure if there's been a recent equivalent to this kind of move. GE's workforce relocation was relatively tiny. Boeing, I guess, but they left tons behind in Seattle too, I think. 

 

 

 

True, I was more referencing to the impact it will have for most cities to land a new HQ the size of SW. 

 

It was being discussed how it might be a labor cost strain in order for SW to relocate all of their work staff/new hires to staff the HQ...but I'm wondering if they receive tax cuts/incentives if it will balance out the labor costs?

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19 minutes ago, CleveFan said:

Not to be a contrarian here, but I’m a cautious  Cleveland supporter...The leadership of the city of Cleveland should not assume that the SW announcement is just a misdirection.  (Even though it may in fact be a leverage play) The  city should aggressively move to put together the most attractive deal that guarantees  SW’s new world headquarters is built downtown. Despite the historical connection between SW and Northeast Ohio, I think it’s not impossible  that a huge corporation could make  what seems an unthinkable move - if there’s enough motivation from a competing city, be it Columbus, Minneapolis or someone else. So here’s to Cleveland leadership remaining aggressive and closing the deal. Imagine the impact of SW locating downtown in that mighty new world headquarters on public square - that cannot be allowed to not happen. 

 

I'm sure the Mayor will get right on that after completing more fake interviews about his family matters....🙄

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2 minutes ago, KJP said:

Sherwin+Williams+HQ+massing-from+lake-Ge

 

THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2019

Sherwin-Williams finally admits new HQ, R&D site search

 

After months of denials, Sherwin-Williams (SHW) finally has acknowledged publicly and officially that it is seeking a new home for its global headquarters and research-development facilities.

In a press release shared today, SHW Chairman and Chief Executive Officer John G. Morikis admitted what has been reported here at NEOtrans for nearly a year -- that the global coatings giant has outgrown its scattered offices throughout Greater Cleveland and is looking for a new HQ+R&D.

“The company’s significant growth and global expansion over the last several decades has resulted in a less than optimal configuration of headquarters, offices and R&D facilities across multiple locations,” Morikis said.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/09/sherwin-williams-finally-admits-new-hq.html

Why are we making renderings in downtown when time and time again companies continue to leave Cleveland for other states or NEO suburbs? 

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2 minutes ago, inlovewithCLE said:

Here come the trolls. Smh

The possibility of Sherwin leaving Cleveland proper is very real. Don't even start with this troll accusation. The Jackson administration has an awful reputation with corporate business downtown. I can't even count the number of huge corporate headquarters the city has lost to not only other states, but to its blood sucking suburbs.

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2 minutes ago, marty15 said:

How many employees did BP have here when they left for Chicago?

Lots but completely different situation.  Amoco merged with BP.

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9 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

The possibility of Sherwin leaving Cleveland proper is very real. Don't even start with this troll accusation. The Jackson administration has an awful reputation with corporate business downtown. I can't even count the number of huge corporate headquarters the city has lost to not only other states, but to its blood sucking suburbs.

I’m not supposed to feed the trolls, but I’ll engage this one time. What the hell are you talking about? Why do you lie? There have been more businesses moving INTO the city from the suburbs during the Jackson administration than moving out. Second of all, how many times do people on this forum have to tell you (including posts from councilmen themselves) that Cleveland is offering a very generous package to SW to stay? I know it’s cute to bash the city and all to a certain breed of Clevelander, but I’m sick and tired of this weak ass, scared of our own shadow, we can’t compete, woe is us mentality. You’ll get no sympathy this way. We know the city is going to offer SW a very generous package to stay, after that, you let the chips fall where they may. Sick of all the bitching and complaining. It’s weak and corny. Someone else on here may want to entertain you with that but not me. Take that sh*t somewhere else

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6 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

The possibility of Sherwin leaving Cleveland proper is very real. Don't even start with this troll accusation. The Jackson administration has an awful reputation with corporate business downtown. I can't even count the number of huge corporate headquarters the city has lost to not only other states, but to its blood sucking suburbs.

Well you have to admit you have a history of being a pretty negative poster without actually contributing much more to the forum in terms of news and the like.  That said you are entitled to your opinions without being called a troll.

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8 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

I'm sick of dreaming. I want actual growth in this city. I'm sick of dissapointment and project failure.

 

Maybe actual growth is occurring... Have you looked at the regional employment data and city of Cleveland income tax revenue data lately?

 

Or, to keep the discussion on topic, have you looked at Sherwin-Williams' local employment data lately? Sometimes I think Clevelanders are so busy wallowing in their own self-pity of a lost, great past that they're missing the successes that are already here.

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SW have options. When you are a company their size you have the ability to request alot in terms of tax cuts and incentives. Hopefully the mayor and Cleveland council members can put up a good fight and offer the incentives that SW will be looking for to build their HQ, but I can bet that their will be mayor's from cities all across the country contacting SW and putting out various package deals. 

 

This is not a slam dunk by any means, and it's up to city leaders to get this done. One misstep could spell trouble. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, troeros said:

SW have options. When you are a company their size you have the ability to request alot in terms of tax cuts and incentives. Hopefully the mayor and Cleveland council members can put up a good fight and offer the incentives that SW will be looking for to build their HQ, but I can bet that their will be mayor's from cities all across the country contacting SW and putting out various package deals. 

 

This is not a slam dunk by any means, and it's up to city leaders to get this done. One misstep could spell trouble. 

 

 

The city better give every incentive possible. The repercussions of losing Sherwin even to the suburbs is damning

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14 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

The possibility of Sherwin leaving Cleveland proper is very real. Don't even start with this troll accusation. The Jackson administration has an awful reputation with corporate business downtown. I can't even count the number of huge corporate headquarters the city has lost to not only other states, but to its blood sucking suburbs.

 

FWIW I don't think Dustin Fox would say any of that

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I will say one thing however is that the local media is doing a completely awful job in telling the economic success stories that are occurring all around us. I try to do my part but I'm just a small-time blogger. The fact that I've been reporting on Sherwin-Williams HQ search for nearly a year without anybody else doing the same is utterly mind-blowing. The only mainstream media reports were instigated by and linked to my blog! Why does the local media have to rely on press releases before they report anything? Where is the journalistic aggressiveness in trying to get the stories rather than wait for the stories to come to them?

 

I'm about to beat the pants off the local media again with two more stories coming out today or tomorrow. Shame on them.

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Everybody should just calm down. I fully believe that the city will give Sherman Williams a significant financial package to keep them here. It would be political suicide to let Sherman Williams leave Cleveland. Also what kind of message would we be sending to other perspective businesses that are considering Cleveland as a location. Failure is not an option in this situation and if we cant keep one of our own (Cleveland born and bred) then it will be time for pitch forks and torches to descend upon City Hall!!

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I will say one thing however is that the local media is doing a completely awful job in telling the economic success stories that are occurring all around us. I try to do my part but I'm just a small-time blogger. The fact that I've been reporting on Sherwin-Williams HQ search for nearly a year without anybody else doing the same is utterly mind-blowing. The only mainstream media reports were instigated by and linked to my blog! Why does the local media have to rely on press releases before they report anything? Where is the journalistic aggressiveness in trying to get the stories rather than wait for the stories to come to them?

 

I'm about to beat the pants off the local media again with two more stories coming out today or tomorrow. Shame on them.

 

It's the same reason Browns fans were booing in the first quarter of the first game of the season. A lot of Clevelanders - particularly the ones that haven't shared in the city's success, are addicted to self pity. Depressing will always drive clicks over happy

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5 minutes ago, KJP said:

I will say one thing however is that the local media is doing a completely awful job in telling the economic success stories that are occurring all around us. I try to do my part but I'm just a small-time blogger. The fact that I've been reporting on Sherwin-Williams HQ search for nearly a year without anybody else doing the same is utterly mind-blowing. The only mainstream media reports were instigated by and linked to my blog! Why does the local media have to rely on press releases before they report anything? Where is the journalistic aggressiveness in trying to get the stories rather than wait for the stories to come to them?

 

I'm about to beat the pants off the local media again with two more stories coming out today or tomorrow. Shame on them.

The local media sucks. I find myself consistently disappointed that we live in a good sized market (19 in Television, 34 in radio) and we have a very small town-y media. They don’t report well on almost anything. There are some great reporters, don’t get me wrong, but more often than not they’re handcuffed

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Just now, inlovewithCLE said:

The local media sucks. I find myself consistently disappointed that we live in a good sized market (19 in Television, 34 in radio) and we have a very small town-y media. They don’t report well on almost anything. There are some great reporters, don’t get me wrong, but more often than not they’re handcuffed

Cleveland.com is good for sports reporting and that's about it.

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^That News19 headline will do more harm than good. If they did it to prompt CLE officials to take action, instead they just got other cities attention and salivating.

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12 minutes ago, KJP said:

I'm about to beat the pants off the local media again with two more stories coming out today or tomorrow. Shame on them.

 

Let's say Today!!!  Is it in regards to new unreported towers? 

 

Any news on the Geis, Realife and CityClub Towers?

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I know I keep repeating myself but people are going crazy (and I knew that would happen) over what I believe was a throw away sentence in a news release that basically contains no news.  In a few days I have a funny feeling SW's genius PR department is going to be regretting a few things.

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11 minutes ago, RE Developer In Training said:

Cleveland.com is good for sports reporting and that's about it.

They do a really good job reporting census results.

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1 minute ago, Htsguy said:

I know I keep repeating myself but people are going crazy (and I knew that would happen) over what I believe was a throw away sentence in a news release that basically contains no news.  In a few days I have a funny feeling SW's genius PR department is going to be regretting a few things.

 

I'm not sure that statement was a throwaway sentence. SW has all the right to explore all their options, including different cities and states. They have no obligation to be loyal to one city. At the end of the day they are a business with share holders and there main target is growth and profitablity. If they can achieve that in Cleveland then that's awesome! But they will definitely be thorough and diligent about selecting the site of their next HQ.

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^ oh geez louize.

 

 

5 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

I know I keep repeating myself but people are going crazy (and I knew that would happen) over what I believe was a throw away sentence in a news release that basically contains no news.  In a few days I have a funny feeling SW's genius PR department is going to be regretting a few things.

 

 

^ agreed -- and in no way do i think sw were being purposefully manipulative like amazon was with HQ2. sheesh.

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7 minutes ago, simplythis said:

 

That's some cleveland.com level clickbait right there! Cleveland media seems to be highly skilled in the copy/paste method on press releases. As a publicly traded company, what else would their press release about a new HQ search say?

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5 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

I'm not sure that statement was a throwaway sentence. SW has all the right to explore all their options, including different cities and states. They have no obligation to be loyal to one city. At the end of the day they are a business with share holders and there main target is growth and profitablity. If they can achieve that in Cleveland then that's awesome! But they will definitely be thorough and diligent about selecting the site of their next HQ.

You are 100% correct.  Corporate due diligence is a "thing" and  an important thing to cover your ass, especially for shareholders, to avoid potential lawsuits.  That said dd is often just a show and in my mind it clearly is here. 

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8 minutes ago, Florida Guy said:

Nothing has changed from what KJP has been reporting. This is an acknowledgment to his blog posts and probably the reason for the press release. Relax people!

 

I mean can KJP reflect on this statement? Does he know if SW has contacted other construction contractors/developers in other cities and states?

 

Feels like he would have the best input on whether SW is indeed looking at other cities for relocation as well.

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for pete's sake that remark is a mandatory statement as a ploy for tax breaks and whatever else, but i would not worry about it. at least at this point.

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6 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

I mean can KJP reflect on this statement? Does he know if SW has contacted other construction contractors/developers in other cities and states?

 

Feels like he would have the best input on whether SW is indeed looking at other cities for relocation as well.

 

Turner and Gilbane are international firms, but my understanding is that their local offices were sent the RFQs. Similar situation with Vocon which is developing site options. Vocon is HQ'd here but they also have offices in New York City and Los Angeles.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

Turner and Gilbane are international firms, but my understanding is that their local offices were sent the RFQs. Similar situation with Vocon which is developing site options. Vocon is HQ'd here but they also have offices in New York City and Los Angeles.

 

 

Channel19CarlMondayNews: Sources report SHW considering NYC and Los Angeles!!!!!!! 

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32 minutes ago, Pugu said:

^That News19 headline will do more harm than good. If they did it to prompt CLE officials to take action, instead they just got other cities attention and salivating.

Quite the contrary I think. The pitchfork public up in arms should light a fire under public officials to see this through. 

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