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I love this project and its street presence, but cannot stand all the visible mechanicals on its roof when viewed from the north.

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What exactly is the open 22nd floor ( 7th floor ) from the top.  Is that some

mechanical floor.   Is that floor to remain open ( and waiting for an accident

to happen ) or will it eventually be enclosed?

Also, the first floor above the the parking garage - will that

ever be enclosed?

 

 

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18 minutes ago, simplythis said:

What exactly is the open 22nd floor ( 7th floor ) from the top.  Is that some

mechanical floor.   Is that floor to remain open ( and waiting for an accident

to happen ) or will it eventually be enclosed?

Also, the first floor above the the parking garage - will that

ever be enclosed?

 

 

Those are apartments with balconies. If you look at the renderings you'll see people handing out on them. I'm pretty sure the level that's open below the building is still part of the parking deck so it'll most likely not be closed off.

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22 minutes ago, simplythis said:

What exactly is the open 22nd floor ( 7th floor ) from the top.  Is that some

mechanical floor.   Is that floor to remain open ( and waiting for an accident

to happen ) or will it eventually be enclosed?

Also, the first floor above the the parking garage - will that

ever be enclosed?

 

 

I thought it was some sort of recreation floor with balconies...

From a 2016 Cle.com article on the project:

 

“The most noticeable - and complicated - lighting feature is on the 21st floor, the only floor where residents will have balconies. Renderings depict that floor as a band of light at night. Katherine Faulkner of Nadaaa said the designers are working on ways to ensure that the tower is illuminated to stand out without causing disruptions for tenants.

‘It is probably our biggest design challenge,’ Faulkner told the design-review group.”

 

As for the lowest level, it should get closed off next. If not, it’d be a bit of an eyesore... renderings show the glass bit of the garage facade extended upwards to meet the cladding. 


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On 7/19/2019 at 8:12 AM, Clevecane said:

Lol. I love the photo of the tissue box.

 

The lighting beneath the Beacon sign also looks odd to me because it’s not spaced evenly. I assume they did it purposely, but it’s just even enough that the uneven spacing looks accidental.

The signage fits with the off center shifted design theme that building is trying to convey. It's odd in a good way. It's what makes it unique.

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Flew into town because my father had surgery last week and took these while I was there.  These where taken at Metrohealth on W. 25.  The Beacon is in front of Erieview Tower in the pics.

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On 7/26/2019 at 1:13 PM, Boxtruffles said:

I thought it was some sort of recreation floor with balconies...

From a 2016 Cle.com article on the project:

 

“The most noticeable - and complicated - lighting feature is on the 21st floor, the only floor where residents will have balconies. Renderings depict that floor as a band of light at night. Katherine Faulkner of Nadaaa said the designers are working on ways to ensure that the tower is illuminated to stand out without causing disruptions for tenants.

‘It is probably our biggest design challenge,’ Faulkner told the design-review group.”

 

As for the lowest level, it should get closed off next. If not, it’d be a bit of an eyesore... renderings show the glass bit of the garage facade extended upwards to meet the cladding. 

I went by the other day and you can see the windows on that upper level/recreation floor- I'm sure it'll be more apparent once a railing goes in.

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1 hour ago, mrnyc said:

@Keelung to Cuyahoga 

welcome --- nice shot there -- i know some don't like the tower is a mishmash with the parking deck, but that is actually one thing i like about it and that angle is a reason why.

I’m with you! I think it adds an interesting visual contrast and offbeat uniqueness. Not everything has to be so neat and uniform. 

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56 minutes ago, Terdolph said:

Please tell me that they are not going to leave those columns yellow.

They're still working on the balconies...give them some time and they'll cover the yellow just like they covered the rest of the yellow on the building. 

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Mister Blue Sky....

 

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I acknowledge your opinion that the matte panels look cheap, Frmr CLEdr. However, I completely disagree. In my opinion, the matte panels allow the color and value variations to present themselves clearly without the visual distortions that would occur if the panels were more reflective. I can assure you the architects conducted numerous curtain wall appearance tests before deciding on this panel.

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I'm not referring exclusively to the panels. If anything, they significantly add to what would otherwise be a very mediocre building.  I'm referring to the building as a whole; particularly in comparison to other recently completed, or buildings under construction (Hilton, Lumen).

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I have to agree with you there. The design could have been more imaginative by breaking up the rectangular shape to give it a more sculptural skyline presence, like the Hilton. Such an approach could have given greater meaning to the name, "Beacon".

 

Too bad the designers didn't consult us, right?

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4 hours ago, ArtMasterCLE said:

I acknowledge your opinion that the matte panels look cheap, Frmr CLEdr. However, I completely disagree. In my opinion, the matte panels allow the color and value variations to present themselves clearly without the visual distortions that would occur if the panels were more reflective. I can assure you the architects conducted numerous curtain wall appearance tests before deciding on this panel.

Also, if you've walked east on Euclid in the morning when the sun is hitting it just right, it's almost blinding as-is.  I can't imagine the retinal carnage if they were glossy.  'Beacon' fo sho.

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10 hours ago, ArtMasterCLE said:

I have to agree with you there. The design could have been more imaginative by breaking up the rectangular shape to give it a more sculptural skyline presence, like the Hilton. Such an approach could have given greater meaning to the name, "Beacon".

 

Too bad the designers didn't consult us, right?

Though born and raised in CLE (mid 50's-mid 70's), my perspective may have become a bit tainted over the years. Having lived in NYC for twenty years and now MIA, I've grown accustomed to seeing buildings that are architectural marvels, each a stunning example of the latest and greatest that the planet's architectural firms have to offer. Cleveland certainly has its share. I just don't think this is one of them.

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Interestingly, I did it almost the opposite of you. I grew up in Florida, also mid 50's- mid 70's, and came to CLE to go to art school. I agree the two great cities you mentioned can boast many iconic architectural marvels. The Beacon, I have to conclude, was intended to be a fill-in structure with personality. Robert Stark's iconic architectural offering was to be the original design for nuCLEus. I'm guessing the long-rumored Sherwin-Williams corporate headquarters, and a few others on the drawing board may present us with something that's a lot more architecturally imaginative.

 

In my opinion, even fill-in architecture has an opportunity to make a visual statement, which Beacon attempts to do with its graduated panels. I'm guessing budget, dictated by a need to meet certain price restrictions for the apartments, limited what the architects could do aesthetically.

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On 8/9/2019 at 8:01 PM, Frmr CLEder said:

I'm not referring exclusively to the panels. If anything, they significantly add to what would otherwise be a very mediocre building.  I'm referring to the building as a whole; particularly in comparison to other recently completed, or buildings under construction (Hilton, Lumen).

Never cared for the tilted, lopsided appearance of the Hilton.

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32 minutes ago, Terdolph said:

Agreed.

 

It would have been better if they had completed it in the true International Style. 

 

Would have complimented the mall and the classical buildings better.  It's not bad, but could have been better with cleaner lines.

the international Style never goes out of style... it never looks dated. Erieview Tower and the  PNC building are among the most elegant buildings that Cleveland has to offer.

 

"Less is more" - Mies van der Rohe

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The juxtaposition of different eras and styles tends to be more obvious and dissonant when there are fewer buildings - but as the skyline continues to evolve and grow over time, I think the diversity can make things  more dynamic and interesting. I like the contemporary leanings of the Hilton. 

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25 minutes ago, Terdolph said:

The International Style is contemporary.

I think an architectural historian would disagree with this statement.  They're still being built, but the style is definitely 20th century.  Its the mid-century modern of commercial towers.

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On 8/9/2019 at 8:01 PM, Frmr CLEder said:

I'm not referring exclusively to the panels. If anything, they significantly add to what would otherwise be a very mediocre building.  I'm referring to the building as a whole; particularly in comparison to other recently completed, or buildings under construction (Hilton, Lumen).

I think the concept of "budget" seems to have escaped you here when considering the context/scope of this project...

 

Hilton is a multi-billion dollar company and that project encompassed a 600 room facility (with a standard booking bringing in $200+ a night). The Beacon is, by all accounts, an apartment complex marketed to young professionals offering ~187 units. The Beacon's scope (and budget) was never meant to compete with the likes of a downtown Hilton - or even the Lumen for that matter. 

 

The Hilton's budget was $110 Million dollars more than the Beacon's projected cost and also had the backing of a Fortune 100 company...

 

As mentioned by someone else above, potential projects like the SW HQ or NuCLEus are likely to be much more momentous.  

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2 hours ago, BJBaes said:

I think the concept of "budget" seems to have escaped you here when considering the context/scope of this project...

 

Hilton is a multi-billion dollar company and that project encompassed a 600 room facility (with a standard booking bringing in $200+ a night). The Beacon is, by all accounts, an apartment complex marketed to young professionals offering ~187 units. The Beacon's scope (and budget) was never meant to compete with the likes of a downtown Hilton - or even the Lumen for that matter. 

 

The Hilton's budget was $110 Million dollars more than the Beacon's projected cost and also had the backing of a Fortune 100 company...

 

As mentioned by someone else above, potential projects like the SW HQ or NuCLEus are likely to be much more momentous.  

I thought the Hilton - Cleveland Downtown was financed by Cuyahoga County and Hilton was selected by the county as operator. 

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3 minutes ago, Frmr CLEder said:

I thought the Hilton - Cleveland Downtown was financed by Cuyahoga County and Hilton was selected by the county as operator. 

 

That's correct.

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8 minutes ago, Frmr CLEder said:

I thought the Hilton - Cleveland Downtown was financed by Cuyahoga County and Hilton was selected by the county as operator. 

Sounds right to me, as well. Just stating the scopes and budgets are vastly different. I'd think that the projected revenue kickback for the city is in a totally different stratosphere for the Hilton.  

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Some iPhone photos of a tour I took today. So here are some take-a-ways. 

 

1. The balcony level is fully leased and currently has a five year waiting list.

2. The color schemes of each apartment (dark + shiny/light wood finishings) alternate each floor.

3. Each apartment is smart; meaning you download an app and you can control the lighting, temp, etc. 

4. The building is 20 percent leased.

5. "Apparently" a fruit store is going into Nucleus. 😉

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