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"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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4 hours ago, skiwest said:

With some decent retail on the street level of the May Company building.

I was hoping we might eventually see a scaled-down Macy's or some other urban retailer in there, but I doubt that will happen.

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8 minutes ago, skiwest said:

I was hoping we might eventually see a scaled-down Macy's or some other urban retailer in there, but I doubt that will happen.

 

No, but some very interesting retailers are paying attention to what is happening in downtown Cleveland. It is at or close to residential population/income thresholds for certain retailers entering downtown markets.

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25 minutes ago, skiwest said:

I was hoping we might eventually see a scaled-down Macy's or some other urban retailer in there, but I doubt that will happen.

The majority of the May Company storefronts facing Public Square ARE occupied currently. Taco Bell Cantina, Tri-C culinary, and Pura Vida restaurant are all still in operation. There might be one vacancy and it’s being used as construction office. Prospect side is 100% vacant though.

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1 hour ago, KJP said:

 

No, but some very interesting retailers are paying attention to what is happening in downtown Cleveland. It is at or close to residential population/income thresholds for certain retailers entering downtown markets.

 

That's GREAT news!  How many more residents will The Luman; Beacon, TowerCity and others that are very close to opening, or will open before the end of 2020(I cant keep track anymore, what am I missing?) bring to Downtown??   Will those push the numbers above the threshold, and what is that number?

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the 20,000 threshold and goal for 2020 is close to being met.  Per the Q3 report (link below), we are now at 18,800+ residents.  With over 1,200 units under construction, Cleveland should meet its goal in 2020.  I wonder what the next goal will be?  

 

https://www.downtowncleveland.com/DCA/media/DCA_Media/2019-Q3-REPORT.pdf

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30k by 2030? It's ambitious but I thought I saw something like that on a DCA flyer/PDF in the last year.

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3 hours ago, Boxtruffles said:

30k by 2030? It's ambitious but I thought I saw something like that on a DCA flyer/PDF in the last year.

I remember seeing that number and timeline too - that number (30,000) now seems very realistic in the next decade. 

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Looks like they put a fresh coat of bright red paint on those beams...Wish they would have just painted them black to go better with the rest of the building.

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3 minutes ago, ASPhotoman said:

Looks like they put a fresh coat of bright red paint on those beams...Wish they would have just painted them black to go better with the rest of the building.

No they did not!  Why would they do that?  Unfortunately the red had faded and looked pink.

Execution.

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Just now, Frmr CLEder said:

No they did not!

Execution.

Just looks like it from the picture I took last week. Was comparing them and the ones just posted the red looks brand new. Hopefully I'm wrong 😛

 

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On 11/20/2019 at 3:00 PM, marty15 said:

The majority of the May Company storefronts facing Public Square ARE occupied currently. Taco Bell Cantina, Tri-C culinary, and Pura Vida restaurant are all still in operation. There might be one vacancy and it’s being used as construction office. Prospect side is 100% vacant though.

And there is ALSO the massive amount of retail space inside the first floor between EUCLID and PROSPECT that will also be available too!

 

There will be some space required for the garage ramps to the upper floors interior parking areas and also some utilities space too.

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2 hours ago, MuRrAy HiLL said:

 

I walked in the path of this pic being taken today. I felt bad, but when I looked back the guy was still at it, trying to get the primo shot... at that point I thought it for sure was an UO friend, becuase we demand only the best here 🤣

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On 1/2/2020 at 7:54 PM, ASPhotoman said:

From the Beacon's FB.... 

 

 

 

They're going to need to move the "515" numbers up a bit higher now!!

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1 minute ago, dar124 said:

 

 

They're going to need to move the "515" numbers up a bit higher now!!

According the renderings those will be removed and there will be 515 signage on both sides of glass around the door.

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On 1/14/2020 at 4:13 PM, simplythis said:

Are they going to do the signage on top of the building

I don't think any one know at this point. I have a feeling they won't. I say that because it seems like they're really marketing the views from atop the roof and having that large of signage will obstruct those views. I hope I'm wrong though.

 

 

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That’s awesome. I remember taking about building on top of that garage for about ten years. I can’t believe the construction has come and gone

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"Nearly every problem that we have in the USA -- unaffordable health care, prison overpopulation, hyper militarization, climate change, racism, gun violence, poverty, poor education, urban sprawl and others -- cannot be positively addressed because bribery and conflicts of interest are legal under campaign finance laws which protect the uber-wealthy and the narrow self-interests who grossly benefit from our afflictions."

 

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LOL.  I see Steve started his review with one of his pet phrases.  I think he has 4 or 5 standard lines programmed into his computer and all he needs to do is press a button to save time.

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And now after reading the whole article I am very intrigued.  What were Stark's "radical constraints" other than the amenity floor.  Silly Stark boys.  Of course this could just be Litt stirring up trouble and trying to make his article more interesting.  That portion of the piece would have more credibility if he pressed the architect and spelled out specifically what he wanted included and the developer nixed.  And of course, if all this is true I am sure it resulted from the age old battle between architect and developer where one is trying to make money or cut costs and the other wants to see a certain vision fulfilled no matter what the cost.

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2 hours ago, OC_Charlie said:

Beacon apartment tower’s facade most visually dynamic architecture in new downtown Cleveland skyline

 

https://www.cleveland.com/arts/2020/01/beacon-apartment-towers-facade-most-visually-dynamic-architecture-in-new-downtown-cleveland-skyline.html

 

“The building’s facades, however, are what make it worthy of attention. Its jiggly window pattern sets it apart from the rest of the Cleveland skyline, and from a host of bland, boxy apartment buildings built in Cleveland in recent years to accommodate an influx of millennials and empty nesters.”

 

What is he talking about, “host of bland, boxy apartment buildings built in Cleveland in recent years”? I can only think of a few new apartment builds - FEB, Lumen, and I guess one could include One University Circle. I didn’t follow that comment. Is he comparing it to big suburban projects? And if so, why?

 

I also enjoyed how every picture is captioned “This is a placeholder - shoot when we have sunlight.” 🤣🤣 Check it out before it gets fixed. 

 

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Looks great. But it bothers me that there are light lines connected to both ends of the A and N, but only one side of the H.

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Why didn't they place the lit Beacon signs at the top of the building per the renderings?!!!! Was it thought to be oh too much 

for Cleveland's inferior complex sensitivities? Good Lord!

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the Beacon looks great, but why oh why did they not follow through and put the beacon signs on top of the edifice per the renderings?  I wonder is it yet another reflection of Cleveland's renowned inferiority complex that convinced the deciders that was just too much for the CLE?  Come on Cleveland, break out of the box just a little bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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On 1/29/2020 at 11:09 AM, Ron Edwards said:

Why didn't they place the lit Beacon signs at the top of the building per the renderings?!!!! Was it thought to be oh too much 

for Cleveland's inferior complex sensitivities? Good Lord!

 

51 minutes ago, Ron Edwards said:

the Beacon looks great, but why oh why did they not follow through and put the beacon signs on top of the edifice per the renderings?  I wonder is it yet another reflection of Cleveland's renowned inferiority complex that convinced the deciders that was just too much for the CLE?  Come on Cleveland, break out of the box just a little bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

This comment was so positively received the first time that you felt the need to post it again, and a mere two posts later?

 

More importantly, we don’t even know what the current rooftop sign plans are. This thread melted down a while back because people were upset that the front doors looked bad. Fortunately someone then decided to just ask The Beacon directly and we learned they were actually still working on it. And now that entrance looks great. 

 

Perhaps someone who is that concerned about the roof signage could take the initiative to ask The Beacon about it on Twitter.  (I’m not on Twitter yet, so it won’t be me.)

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  • So sorry if a repeat of the post was so disturbing, but Cleveland's inferiority complex on so many factors should be both embarrassing and disturbing after so many times, Cleveland took the lower road on the appearance of new developments.  The Luman and MOCA building are exception to that multi decade long practice.  Love Cleveland by the way, that is why I wrote about that topic in the first place.  If the failure of great vision wasn't so pervasive not once, not twice, not three, not four not five, but for at least seven decades, with a few exceptions, my question would never have been asked.   Seven decades of inferior vision versus a question asked twice.  HMM!
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I asked about the entrance before, but I just asked them on their FB page if all exterior work is complete. I'll report back once I have something. 😉 

 

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^^ Looks like they're adding the new "515" signs on both sides of the doors. BTW...I never received a response from their FB page after asking if anything was left to be done on the exterior. 

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1 hour ago, ASPhotoman said:

^^ Looks like they're adding the new "515" signs on both sides of the doors. BTW...I never received a response from their FB page after asking if anything was left to be done on the exterior. 

The lack of response must be because of an inferiority  complex.😉

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Ron does have a good point.  Very few projects in Cleveland leave me saying wow.  Only recently have things started to change a bit.  

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Beacon was in the news this morning, very strange they had the owner of Society in the apt making drinks at like 7am.  My wife and I are touring this apt in a few weeks (along with a number of other properties).  Will post pictures after.

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20 hours ago, newyorker said:

Ron does have a rhetorical point that's really stretching it to suggest Stark Enterprises would value engineer the building design based on some perceived intangible rather than something like budget.  Very few projects in Cleveland leave me saying wow.  Only recently have things started to change a bit.

FTFY. And all of this should be posted as a separate discussion in a different thread.

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Checked online availability and counted 28 available units. That comes out to ~85% occupancy. Not bad at all.

And about 60% of the available units are one bedroom, the same percentage of one bedroom units in the entire building. A good sign that 60% one bedroom and 40% two bedroom is a good rate for new downtown rental development.

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