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Well, I'm going to make a point of buying Tide, Crest, and GE aircraft engines (er, well, ok, two outta three aint bad...)

 

Seriously, does anyone know how the vote went in terms of geography and demographics? Was it an across-the-board win? If I recall someone posted here that the Article XII orginally passed with big margins from the west side (upper Price Hill. I guess, and similar areas). How was the the repeal vote distributed?

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If you can find a Sunday Enquirer laying around, there was a map in there (section A, I believe). It broke it down by precinct.

 

No such map was available online.

 

I've got a copy and I'll post the percentages later.

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^ cool.

 

I buy Tide and will continue. I used to use other brands and in all honesty, Tide is worth the money. Plus P&G makes the best product ever - NYQUIL! It you are sick this stuff is as good as it gets, Knocks me out everytime.

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Thanks to the great people from http://cincinnati.blogspot.com:

 

Burress is a load that should have been swallowed or balled up in tissue and flushed. My best guess is that the money shot that would become Burress dribbled out of his mother's ass or slid down her back and managed to seep into the holiest of holes.

 

I will go out of my way to support the companies that shelled out to help get rid of the hate-fueled mark on Cincinnati's record. Anyone want to chip in and share an aircraft engine with me?

B.R. | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 1:43 pm | #

 

I thought conservatives were supposed to be the ones that were Pro-business no matter what. They say environmental controls are bad because they hurt economic growth, but prejudiced social policies that hurt business are okay? Even when corporations such as P&G, Federated, and GE Aircraft say they scare off business?

J.C. | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 2:16 pm | #

 

The man is a blowhard who is devoted more to feeding his ego than living a Christ-centered life. I remember reading an old CCV newsletter a few weeks ago online, where he declared that KMart went bankrupt solely because he stopped buying from them.

Keli | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 2:20 pm | #

 

he declared that KMart went bankrupt solely because he stopped buying from them.

 

 

Truth is, he learned from Peter Bronson that soiled jock straps are far superior in bouquet and snorfleworthiness to those purchased "white" from the shelves of Kmart.

B.R. | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 2:57 pm | #

 

Brian you nate and phil are all in the same boat...you'd make a wonderful triumverate.

Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 4:44 pm | #

 

OK. So let me get this straight. A self admitted "ex-porn addict" (no really, I am not making this up, he uses it as one of his selling points) now pulls down a six figure salary from donations of cultural conservatives to snif out "pornographic" material, deem what is good or bad & stamp it out. He gets paid to look at porn all day! Wow is this guy cured. It's one thing when he stamps out porn magazines in the city, but it doesn't just stop there. He goes after hotels for the videos they rent. OK still not a big deal. Then he goes after video stores, radio shows, print ads, newspaper columns, radio show hosts, bill boards, media, cable TV content, book stores, art museums, theaters. A one man chilling effect. Universities now pull down art exhibits just because they are afraid of ramifications from Burress and his cronies.

 

This guy has probably had a bigger affect on your daily life and you are not aware of it. Because it's hard to miss what's not there. Don't worry, this man will protect you from yourself. He will make all the decisions on what is right for you to see & hear and what is not.

 

Do you really want to know what the "gay agenda" is that this guy is fighting against? It's simple. People don't want to get fired just because a co-worker finds him or her out. They don't want to get kicked out of their apartments or denied housing because they just look a little fruity to the landlord. They don't want to be denied access rights to their life partners in the hospitals because he/she is not legally considered ‘family’. They don't want to be kicked out of their homes by their dead life partner's family members because he/she can't prove any partner rights. They don't want their neighborhoods to be spray painted with slurs like faggot, or die homo and have people say 'oh-well, it's just graffiti.' They don't want to be shot or beat up downtown just because they look different or walk out of the wrong bar.

 

That's it. That's the whole nefarious secret gay agenda. Yup, if we let them put a stop to that, it will be the downfall of western civilization as we know it.

 

All this from a group that "doesn't hate" gays, they just want to save them. Let’s hope none of these people ever become lifeguards. They might opt to beat the drowning man in the head with the life buoy & hold them under.

 

Burress appears to represent the direction the Republican party is going in. And this is what scares me. It’s not religion I have an issue with. It’s when other people push their brand of religious beliefs on everyone else’s lives. Everyone is concerned that Afghanistan & Iraq will choose a fundamentalist religious government. I am scared that the US is in the process of choosing that for ourselves now too. If you don’t believe that about the Republican party, take a look yourself. Look at who the power players are now, what actions they are taking, and what values they are pushing. The pow

FunnelCake | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 5:13 pm | #

 

The power players are trying to keep moderate Republicans from taking office. Look up what the term RINO. “Republican In Name Only”. That’s the new slang term used by the new power players in the Republican party for moderate republicans.

 

Sorry if I have been a little testy with everyone here on the boards lately. I tend to get pissed when I see my freedoms getting taken away from me and my only other choice is the democratic party.

 

Outside of Iraq (which we will simply have to agree to disagree about, done deal, purely Bush's responsibility & I am going to have to hope he doesn't drag us into something else really stupid and turn the US into the global ‘evil empire’ that old Soviet Russia used to be) this is my only issue with what the Republican party is turning into (OK & deficit spending beyond war costs). I used to vote Republican. I’d rather have my freedom.

FunnelCake | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 5:13 pm | #

 

So will Burress and CCV be urging their minions to cancel their Enquirer subscriptions and boycott locations that sell the Enquirer?

 

After all, the daily was decidedly for the repeal of Article XII and most definitely against Issue 1.

 

Yet, BurressCo lined Gannett's pockets with a large wad of political ad dough. You would think they wouldn't spend any money with an entity that didn't agree with their views.

Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 5:49 pm | #

 

Okay so now let's do what we should do - counter the boycott.

 

Let's hit this bastard hard...I will be happy to put together a website and work with those of you interested in driving traffic to it...

 

Let me know...

 

Oy...

The Mind Village | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 6:01 pm | #

 

And let's not forget, Burress is on his third marriage, too. I read today that his wife reads the porno out loud so he doesn't have to worry about being tempted! After that, I'm certain they go to their prayer room and light some candles.

HMS | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 6:08 pm | #

 

PS He's going to boycott GE Aircraft Engines? What--he's not going to buy an aircraft engine? He's going to refuse to fly on planes with GE engines on them? HIlarious.

HMS | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 6:09 pm | #

 

Burress is on his third marriage -Mind Village

 

"Protect Marriage! Marry soon, Marry often! (They are kind of like potatoe chips. You just can't stop at one."

FunnelCake | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 6:12 pm | #

 

Does he actually think people are going to boycott P&G? Would that be a smart thing for Cincinnati to do, if they could even do it? If you don't work for P&G, I'm sure you have family members or friends that do work there.

J.C. | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 6:49 pm | #

 

Why does he care so much about something so NOT important to the larger concerns and goings-on of the world?

 

I'm gay and I don't care about it that much.

Dave | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 7:50 pm | #

 

You know what ... Burress by himself would be just an irritant ...

 

Here's the question ...

 

Who the hell is bankrolling HIM?

 

I think we ought to have the boycott of all time against anyone who is propping up his organizations.

 

Furthermore, I think we ought to do our best to do as much gratuitous business as possible with Bristols, Deja Vu, the Hustler store, and anything else "explicit" that we can find.

 

And of course, if you are a First Amendment fan but aren't personally into that sort of stuff (or your wife won't LET you be into that sort of stuff), [[gulp]], send your money to ME -- I'll make good use of it. [[Grin]]

Axinar | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 8:08 pm | #

 

Well, Sam Malone bankrolled a lot of the anti-Issue 3 commercials....

Dave | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 9:06 pm | #

 

Brian has an older blog on who is on the board including a few bank rollers: http://cincinnati.blogspot.com/2004/03/theocrats-by-name.html

 

What I find really dissapointing is that Anthony Munoz (Furniture Fair & Trauth Dairy spokesman) is part of the gang. And a really active gay basher at that.

Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 9:19 pm | #

 

MindVillage, Sounds like a great idea. But keep in mind, they have a killer bank-roll provided by some major employers in town and they have the county sheriff in their pocket to back them up and intimidate people.

 

You know you censorship is a problem when you can't fight it openly. You would have to do an anonymous setup.

Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 9:26 pm | #

 

And don't forget a complete lack of ethics.

Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 11.08.04 - 9:27 pm |

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This is what I came up with from the map in the paper. I averaged out the precincts in each neighborhood to come up with the numbers.

 

They are in no way accurate as far as the number of votes. I'm going off of the key that basically had the following key: less than 40%, 40-50%, 50-60%, 61% or more. I've been digging for raw numbers by precinct but I can't find them anywhere.

 

2004 - voted to Keep Article XII ("No on 3")

Less than 40%:

CBD/Riverfront

Clifton

E. Walnut Hills

Evanston/E. Walnut Hills

Hyde Park

Mt. Adams

Mt. Lookout

University Hts.

Clifton Hts./Fairview

Columbia-Tusculum

N. Avondale/Paddock Hills

East End

Corryville

 

41%-50%:

Northside

Over-the-Rhine

Oakley

Pleasant Ridge

Kennedy Hts.

West End

California

Linwood

Winton Place

Walnut Hills

Mt. Auburn

Avondale

Mt. Washington

Madisonville

 

51%-60%:

E. Price Hill

Fay Apartments

N. Fairmount/English Woods

Hartwell

Westwood

College Hill

S. Fairmount

Evanston

Roselawn

Winton Hills

Mt. Airy

Camp Washington

Millvale/S. Cumminsville

Lower Price Hill

Queensgate

Bond Hill

Price Hill

 

More than 60%:

Carthage

Riverside

Sedamsville

Sayler Park

 

 

1993 - Voted for Passage of Article XII

Less than 40%:

N. Avondale/Paddock Hills

 

41%-50%:

E. Walnut Hills

University Hts.

Clifton

Clifton Hts./Fairview

Corryville

Over-the-Rhine

 

51%-60%:

CBD/Riverfront

Hyde Park

Mt. Auburn

Northside

East End

Evanston/E. Walnut Hills

Millvale/S. Cumminsville

Mt. Adams

Mt. Lookout

N. Fairmount/English Woods

Walnut Hills

Winton Place

Evanston

Avondale

West End

Hartwell

Pleasant Ridge

Kennedy Hts.

Roselawn

 

More than 60%:

Columbia-Tusculum

Winton Hills

Price Hill

Bond Hill

Madisonville

Oakley

College Hill

Mt. Airy

Westwood

California

Camp Washington

Carthage

E. Price Hill

Fay Apartments

Linwood

Lower Price Hill

Mt. Washington

Queensgate

Riverside

Sayler Park

Sedamsville

S. Fairmount

 

 

Change between 1993 and 2004

More than 15%:

Columbia-Tusculum

Oakley

California

Evanston/E. Walnut Hills

Linwood

Mt. Adams

Mt. Lookout

Mt. Washington

Hyde Park

East End

 

11%-15%:

Pleasant Ridge

CBD/Riverfront

E. Price Hill

Fay Apartments

Kennedy Hts.

Northside

Madisonville

S. Fairmount

West End

Westwood

College Hill

 

6%-10%:

Avondale

Lower Price Hill

Mt. Airy

Queensgate

Winton Place

Mt. Auburn

Walnut Hills

Corryville

Clifton Hts./Fairview

Clifton

Hartwell

University Hts.

E. Walnut Hills

Over-the-Rhine

Winton Hills

Bond Hill

Roselawn

 

Less than 6%:

Carthage

N. Fairmount/English Woods

Riverside

Sedamsville

Evanston

Price Hill

Camp Washington

Millvale/S. Cumminsville

N. Avondale/Paddock Hills

Sayler Park

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ok, I'm confused...."Voted to Keep Issue 3" means what? do you mean voted to keep Article XII?

 

More than 60%:

Carthage

Riverside

Sedamsville

Sayler Park

 

 

What are the demographics of these areas and what would make them such homophobic places?

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Well done Kevin. I am surprised the Northside wasn't in the first bracket. Is the Northside more pro gay business than it is gay residential?

 

Second, I see a trend. Notice the difference in numbers between the east/west side? There truly is a line. What neighborhood had the highest percentage of people repeal Article 3? Clifton?

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ok' date=' I'm confused...."Voted to Keep Issue 3" means what? do you mean voted to keep Article XII?

 

More than 60%:

Carthage

Riverside

Sedamsville

Sayler Park

 

 

What are the demographics of these areas and what would make them such homophobic places?[/quote']

Yeah, I meant "Keep Article XII". It was a typo.

 

Carthage is largely Appalachian, working-class with a smattering of Hispanic folk.

 

As far as Riverside and Sedamsville, think of Pete Rose. It's also almost entirely white and Appalachian working-class.

 

Sayler Park is so damn far away from the core of the city that it has more in common with Cleves and North Bend than it does Cincinnati. It's a white, middle-class conservative small town, essentially.

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Well done Kevin. I am surprised the Northside wasn't in the first bracket. Is the Northside more pro gay business than it is gay residential?

I'd say both as far as Northside goes. It's gay tolerant' date=' but keep in mind that there are a lot of working-class/poor whites and working-class/poor blacks who still live there as well. "No on 3" was pushed aggressively in the black church community and it shows in some of the majority black neighborhoods on the list. And, of course, we know how people who came up from the conservative south (like a lot of the poorer residents of Northside) feel about the issue as well.

 

I guess these groups were able to offset the vote a little bit. And you'll also notice that according to the numbers attitudes have changed quite a bit in Northside in the past 11 years.

 

Second, I see a trend. Notice the difference in numbers between the east/west side? There truly is a line.

Yeah, I noticed that as well. I guess it could be said that every neighborhood has at least made improvements, but I was struck by the leaps as far as the fiscally conservative, socially liberal areas of the east side such as Hyde Park, Oakley, EWH and Columbia-Tusculum, etc. made. The west side has always been more socially conservative and it will just take those folks a while to come around on some things. Their showing was definitely an improvement, though.

 

What neighborhood had the highest percentage of people repeal Article 3? Clifton?

I wish I knew. The map didn't give any raw numbers (just percentage ranges) and I haven't been able to find numerical data anywhere.

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Percentage that voted "Yes" to repeal issue 3:

 

Ward 1 (Mt. Washington/Mt. Lookout) 52.93%

Ward 2 (Madisonville/Oakley) 53.70%

Ward 3 (Evanston) 51.60%

Ward 4 (Hyde Park) 64.22%

Ward 5 (Mt. Lookout/East Walnut Hills) 64.89%

Ward 6 (Downtown) 64.18%

Ward 7 (Bond Hill/Roselawn) 46.88%

Ward 8 (Mt. Auburn) 59.13%

Ward 9 (Walnut Hills) 54.29%

Ward 10 (Correyville) 55.54%

Ward 11 (Clifton Heights) 69.28%

Ward 12 (Clifton/Clifton Heights) 66.93%

Ward 13 (Avondale/North Avondale) 55.87%

Ward 14 (Pleasant Ridge/Kennedy Hghts.) 56.65%

Ward 15 (Clifton) 66.21%

Ward 16 (West End) 60.96%

Ward 17 (West End) 56.66%

Ward 18 (West End) 50.47%

Ward 19 (Sayler Park) 38.34%

Ward 20 (East Price Hill) 46.93%

Ward 21(North Fairmont) 46.62%

Ward 22 (Winton Place) 51.48%

Ward 23 (College Hill/Mt. Airy) 51.00%

Ward 24 (Carthage/Hartwell) 47.50%

Ward 25 (Price Hill) 41.64%

Ward 26 (Westwood) 47.58%

 

You can definately see a difference in views between the Eastside and Westside.

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I hate to be a bitch, but could you arrange this data by percaentages from top to bottom?

 

Also, this is also kind of meaningless because 26 wards represent 50+ neighborhoods. And there are 370+ precincts in the city.

 

The issue did very well on the, well, the rich and white part of the East side. It didn't do so well among blacks. I agree that the West Side was an embarassment relative to the other local results.

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It is clear that there was a significant divide. Clifton, Hyde Park, Mt. Lookout, Mt. Adams, Downtown are where better educated, better informed people live. Sedamsville is hopeless. What puzzles me is the 3 wards described as West End. I am guessing that isn't quite an accurate description of the area covered in those wards. I saw this same breakdown on Nick Spencer's blog site. People like Rev. Shuttlesworth who did a t.v. commercial for the anti-3 side were probably influential in the black community as was Sam Malone. I think it is impressive though that many black neighborhoods (Avondale, West End, Winton Place etc.) passed 3 despite their disinformation campaign.

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I think it is impressive though that many black neighborhoods (Avondale' date=' West End, Winton Place etc.) passed 3 despite their disinformation campaign.[/quote']

I'm guessing that Winton Hills was included in the Winton Place ward, which does make it much more impressive.

 

Winton Place itself is 50/50 racially. Winton Hills is basically all Winton Terrace and Findlater Gardens and is 90% black.

 

The West End numbers may include Camp Washington. The Brighton and Mohawk neighborhoods are home to a lot of artists and galleries, which may have swayed those numbers a little bit.

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From the 11/19/04 Enquirer:

 

 

City hopes new image draws

Will Article XII repeal bring back conventions?

By Ken Alltucker

Enquirer staff writer

 

One of the top arguments for repealing Article XII was the harm it caused Cincinnati's economy.

 

Eight conventions expected to contribute $25 million to the area's hospitality industry canceled scheduled meetings after voters approved the city charter amendment in 1993.

 

About 200 groups that could have spent millions more at downtown shops, restaurants and hotels cited the anti gay-rights initiative as a contributing factor in their decision to skip Cincinnati.

 

Now that voters have repealed the city charter amendment, the Greater Cincinnati Convention and Visitors Bureau is courting the conventions that bypassed the Queen City.

 

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041119/BIZ01/411190351

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Article XII was a travesty that should have been repealed even if doing so cost money, but it sure is nice when doing the right thing is also a financial benefit...

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I saw that article too... I can't stand that guy. Most of the fuck-ups in human history are due to people who don't know the meaning of "happy medium."

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It'll be interesting to see how sucessfull Burress will be going statewide.

 

The proof in the pudding will be if his organization can unseat someone like Dewine in the GOP primary, or act as kingmaker in a GOP gubernatorial primary. Unseating Dewine in a primary would be a real coup.

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I dont know how much this will help as far as image, maybe less resistance in convention groups coming to town?  But i mean it isnt like the city is setting the curve in gay rights due to the repeal... its just back on par with the rest of the country.  I hear Topeka has a DP registry... heh

 

This article has a slant.  That the main reason to repeal it is all that "do it for the economy" shit  So its about money??!  cmon.  Wheres the articles about the fact that the law was flat out prejudiced?  and that gay people are just as important as anyone else in society?  Where are the editorials from enraged liberals that such a law exists?  Is that really the mindset there?  "We dont want to appear to be fag bashers so that young people will come live here... and that the convention business will get better"  because thats the kind of image im seeing here...

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No, zaceman.  EVERYTHING is about money.  Everybody and their momma knows that.  Of course isn't anything to do with gay bashing or "mentalities" or whatnot.  It's all economics.  Black convention attract money.  Gay conventions attract money.  NRA conventions attract money.


"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

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This article has a slant. That the main reason to repeal it is all that "do it for the economy" shit So its about money??! cmon. Wheres the articles about the fact that the law was flat out prejudiced? and that gay people are just as important as anyone else in society? Where are the editorials from enraged liberals that such a law exists? Is that really the mindset there? "We dont want to appear to be fag bashers so that young people will come live here... and that the convention business will get better" because thats the kind of image im seeing here...

 

Of course the article has a slant.

 

Article XII was already repealed, so there was no need to write an article on how the existence of Article XII was wrong.  There were too many editorials to count about that before the election, including the newspaper's very own editorial board.

 

Also, zaceman, this article appeared in the business section.

 

Think about it.

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There really was no article, it was just a joke!

The reason convention business is gonna get better is because they sent out over 200 letters about a expanded convention center. You can only have so many conventions anyway, unless you build a 2nd convention center. They were always fully booked. We just needed a excuse for more space, maybe just some bigger ones but not really any more.

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Discrimination comes front and center at Cincinnati's City Hall today. City Council's Law Committee will take a close look at a proposal that would make it illegal to discriminate against homosexuals. If it passes it would get 'tacked onto' the city's Human Rights Ordinance. A group called 'Citizens for Community Values' says it will fight the proposal, but the activist group 'Equality Cincinnati' says similar policies are already on the books at many tri-state businesses.

 

Chris Bortz, Cincinnati Council Member: "As it stands right now, an employer can say you're homosexual, and you're fired and that's their stated reason. They can't say you're fired because you're white. What we're saying, you can no longer say that. You have to have good cause to terminate someone, and sexual orientation is not good cause."

 

A 1993 charter amendment prohibited the city from enacting civil rights protections for gays and lesbians but voters repealed it in 2004.

 

http://www.wkrc.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=A1433502-A1D1-48D0-BC7B-696FD859154E

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YAY!!!

 

 

PHOTO: Paula Ison, of Fort Mitchell, told City Council's law committee that she was demoted because she is transgender.

 

Measure will protect gays

Council committee expands human rights ordinance

BY DAN KLEPAL | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Equal rights for gay people, under Cincinnati's human rights ordinance, is one step away. And that step will be taken today.

 

Council's Law and Public Safety Committee on Tuesday overwhelmingly approved an amendment to the city's anti-discrimination law that adds homosexuals and transgender people to those who can't be fired from a job or kicked out of an apartment. The full council will vote today on the measure, which has more than enough support for passage.

 

Thirty-four citizens spoke at the hearing, with only three opposing the measure. The amendment would take effect next month. It would be the first time such protection has been extended since a charter amendment called Article XII - which specifically banned naming gays as a protected class - was passed by city voters 14 years ago.

 

 

E-mail [email protected]

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060315/NEWS01/603150334/1077/rss02

 

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"I was very offended by that ad," Councilwoman Leslie Ghiz said. "Shame on you people for spending (thousands of dollars) putting that in the paper, and not spending it in another way - like helping children. I'm proud to be part of the council to put this on the books."

 

Hell yeah! ... You go gurrrrl! ;)

 

Next step is to get the gay pride flag flying in front of city hall! ... lol ... j/k it wouldn't match "the castle". ;)

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Only one vote against.  Very impressive!

 

No more comments from me about Cincinnati being conservative.  This wasn't even close.

 

I just hope the CCV has enough sense to stay in their little world of bigotry in Sharonville.

 

I just hope they don't partner with the Ohio Restoration Project/Patriot Pastors/Ken Blackwell and work some sort of a statewide ban on gay rights laws, like whats being attempted in Kentucky.

 

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

 

Of Ohio's "big six" cities, this leaves Dayton and Akron without gay rights laws.

 

 

 

 

 

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Cincinnati was actually one of the first cities to pass a gay rights ordinance in the country back in the late 80's/early 90's.  That is what lead to Article XII by the CCV hategroup.

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Assholes.

 

 

Gay rights ordinance may go on ballot

Associated Press

 

A group opposing a city ordinance update that extends discrimination protection to gay people blocked the change from taking effect by asking that the matter go before voters.

 

Citizens for Community Values said on Friday it submitted signatures of 14,000 to 15,000 city residents who want to see the issue on the November ballot.

 

The Hamilton County Board of Elections must verify the signatures before the petition can be accepted. About 7,000 valid signatures would be required to get the measure on the ballot.

 

 

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060417/NEWS01/604170340/1010/RSS01

 

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"The city's really changed, and they don't get that," Wright said of the petitioners.

 

This is hitting the nail on the head. Especially coming from Gary Wright. I met Gary once and we talked for about 15-20 minutes. He seems like a very influential person.

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Jesus.  What compells people to spend their fucking time pushing to keep some folks second-class citizens?  For Christ's sake, people, get a goddamn hobby.

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Even if they passed it, couldn't employers easily come up with other reasons to not hire/fire someone? You don't even have to fire them, just make their job a living hell until they just quit.

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Not this sh!t again.

 

 

Gay rights vote under protest

Both sides planning Board of Elections challenges

BY DAN KLEPAL | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Two signatures will determine whether Cincinnati faces another election-year battle over gay rights.

 

In March, Cincinnati City Council overwhelmingly approved adding gays to the city's Human Rights Ordinance. The ordinance protects people from discrimination in employment and housing.

 

But a group called Equal Rights Not Special Rights, which is against protecting gays under the ordinance, collected more than 14,000 signatures in hopes of allowing voters to decide the issue in November.

 

Officials from the Hamilton County Board of Elections say the group collected enough signatures - just barely.

 

 

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Anti-gay rights group gives up

Lack of signatures will keep referendum off ballot

BY DAN KLEPAL | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Gay people will soon be protected against discrimination in the city of Cincinnati, for the first time since 1992.

 

Equal Rights Not Special Rights, a group involved in a petition drive to force a referendum on whether gays should be protected against discrimination in employment and housing under the city's Human Rights Ordinance, withdrew its petitions Tuesday and requested that the referendum not be placed on the ballot in November, or in any future election.

 

That decision ends a 14-year battle over whether gays should be protected as a class of people - a fight that caused Cincinnati to be viewed by many people around the country as intolerant.

 

 

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Yeah, I remember when something like this happened in Sacramento back in the 1980s, when Sacto passed a gay rights law.  The Sacto version of Burress' group had also collected a bunch of petitions, filing them right before the deadline.

 

But local gay activitists volunteered to work for the recorders office and helped check the petitions, which found enough of the signatures where invalid for various reasons (forgeries, people not living within the city limits, and so forth).  Very similar situation to what happened in Cincy.

 

But this is quite a relief!

 

 

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This is awesome news, and a relief to most educated people in Cincinnati.  I am always struck at Phil Burress and how nasty he is about anything he considers to be against his "normal" view. 

 

On a somewhat separate subject, his underhanded tactics to pressure hotels over adult movies and adult stores is borderline criminal.  If you do not want the stuff (not that I would either), simply do not purchase it and the market will vote by keeping the place in business or not.  His reaction to porn always seems over the top, and I guess that is because he is a self-admitted addict.  It's like putting a militant, recovering alcoholic in charge of liquor licenses - he could not control it so no one else can have it.

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From the 8/19/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Prosecutor looking into petition fraud

Allegations arise after failed gay rights referendum attempt

BY DAN KLEPAL | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

The Hamilton County Prosecutor's Office is investigating alleged election fraud in the failed attempt of a group called Equal Rights Not Special Rights to force a ballot referendum on whether over gay people should be protected by Cincinnati's anti-discrimination law.

 

Equal Rights Not Special Rights officially withdrew its petitions Thursday, saying it discovered one paid signature gatherer had fraudulently signed 18 names in the more than 7,600 signatures that were validated by the Hamilton County Board of Elections last June.

 

Thousands of those validated signatures were to be challenged Thursday by a pro-ordinance group called Citizens To Restore Fairness, which said the referendum sponsor was systematic in its use of fraud and tampering of petitions to push the issue onto ballots this fall. A protest hearing at the Board of Elections, scheduled for Thursday, was canceled when Prosecutor Joe Deters started his investigation.

 

 

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I looked for a similar topic but couldn't find it .

 

Judge unloads on Brinkman

 

BY SHARON COOLIDGE | [email protected]

 

A judge said two women were wrong to falsify election petitions to earn bonuses but directed much of his ire at state Rep. Tom Brinkman Jr., who headed up the unsuccessful petition drive last year to repeal Cincinnati's gay-rights ordinance.

 

Hamilton County Common Pleas Judge Robert Ruehlman slammed Brinkman from the bench Wednesday, calling him the "real criminal" in the record changing.

 

The Republican judge said the lawmaker should be charged with complicity to election fraud, acted without ethics and suggested that the state House of Representatives should toss him from office.

 

 

 

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