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Small correction -- that's the former 3rd District CPD station

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1 hour ago, KJP said:

Small correction -- that's the former 3rd District CPD station

 

Small correction -- it was the 5th district station. 3rd was at 21st and Payne (and is now about 40th and Chester).

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14 minutes ago, Pugu said:

 

Small correction -- it was the 5th district station. 3rd was at 21st and Payne (and is now about 40th and Chester).

The old third is still standing. It's public safety central. 

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31 minutes ago, Pugu said:

 

Small correction -- it was the 5th district station. 3rd was at 21st and Payne (and is now about 40th and Chester).

 

That's weird. I even Googled "3rd District CPD Chester" and got 10600 Chester as the address. Oh well. 5th District moved to 881 E 152nd St??


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8 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

That's weird. I even Googled "3rd District CPD Chester" and got 10600 Chester as the address. Oh well. 5th District moved to 881 E 152nd St??

@KJP, correct sir. It is directly north of the fire station and Collinwood High School. As an addendum, 10600 may have briefly been the third district. But when you refer to the old third in the police department people are talking about public safety central on Payne. 

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Definitely 5th District.  Back in the 1960's and 1970's, my grandpa owned a music store on E.105th and Euclid, and would speak highly of the folks in that building in his later years.

 

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7 minutes ago, MuRrAy HiLL said:

Definitely 5th District.  Back in the 1960's and 1970's, my grandpa owned a music store on E.105th and Euclid, and would speak highly of the folks in that building in his later years.

 

You know what. I think @KJP is right. I don't know why the heck 2001 Payne is called the old third. It seems to have been the Old HQ. I'm gonna have to find out more. 

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42 minutes ago, KFM44107 said:

You know what. I think @KJP is right. I don't know why the heck 2001 Payne is called the old third. It seems to have been the Old HQ. I'm gonna have to find out more. 


I suppose I don’t have any qualifying evidence, but I’ll have to stand by my family’s oral history.  I shot my father a quick text and he replied:

 

It was the 5th District police station where a couple of the detectives were friends with my Dad. I remember Earl and Lenny. They checked on him often during the riots.

 

Perhaps it was later re-districted?

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3 hours ago, KFM44107 said:

The old third is still standing. It's public safety central. 

 

Yes, CPD uses for various units. After the new 3rd District HQ was built on Chester, CPD almost sold the original bldg to CSU, but that deal fell through and I'm glad it did.

 

Re the 5th, there has been redistricting on the East Side as the city went from six districts to five. But the bldg on 107 St was 5th District HQ. 1  & 2 were on the west side; 3rd is Downtown and a little more, and 4/5/6 was east. Now the east side is covered by the 4th and 5th and part of 3rd.

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Not sure this belongs in University Circle thread but here is a demo update of ex-Clinic facility at Stokes and MLK. This is from a couple days ago but they are moving pretty quickly. Hopefully the structure will be going up soon.

 

Edit: The garage is already leveled

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Plans for new CWRU student residence hall on the Southside of campus:

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The ~$72 million building will have 600 residences for 2nd year students.

 

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Looks like it's replacing the parking lot. That's where they people who put on the films always suggest parking.  That's probably the only free parking lot for some distance when one wants to see a film in that bldg. on the quad, and in the dark.  However, I wouldn't want any more houses demolished for this.  I'm always worried about the two houses on Wade Park Avenue just n.e. of East 115th.

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^I'm confused.  This is planned for South of Euclid on the edge of Little Italy, replacing two parking lots by the look of it.  Perhaps you're thinking of a different spot?

 

As it sits in pretty happy to see two parking lots go.

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Interesting. I see that Gilbane and Higley are about to start (or have already started, given the delays that some applicants have in filing paperwork) working on some projects on multiple parcels at CWRU, south of Euclid, between MLK and Cornell. I saw multiple mechanics notices of commencement filed with the county for Gilbane, Higley, Vector Mechanical, Atlantic Piping, and Building Technician Corp. I wonder if this is related....

 

CWRU South Village site plan.jpg

 

Google Earth...

 

CWRU South Village site.jpg

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3 minutes ago, KJP said:

I wonder if this is related....

The only thing starting soon here will be the renovation of Fribley, the dining hall, so I assume it's part of that.

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Thanks. Although the parcels I saw listed were all north/west of the tracks, including the big parcel along the north side of MLK between Euclid and the tracks. Multiple buildings are in that parcel, so I don't know which building it is. Maybe all of them?? And another parcel I remember was on Cornell, including the greenspace at the corner of Cornell Road and Cornell Court.

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3 hours ago, tykaps said:

The ~$72 million building will have 600 residences for 2nd year students.

Do you know if this is going to be replacing any older dorms elsewhere, or is there a need for new residences? I'm hoping for the latter as someone who lives in the area. Between these, the other Little Italy developments, Top of the Hill, plus other developments around and throughout the area, there is going to be a solid 1000+ increase in residents in basically just a half square mile.

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2 hours ago, kevincle said:

Do you know if this is going to be replacing any older dorms elsewhere, or is there a need for new residences? I'm hoping for the latter as someone who lives in the area. Between these, the other Little Italy developments, Top of the Hill, plus other developments around and throughout the area, there is going to be a solid 1000+ increase in residents in basically just a half square mile.

For the past year after year, CWRU's freshman classes have been their biggest ever. They are already extremely strained with a lack of dorms which is why they need this and have been making it easier for upperclassmen to live off campus.

Eventually, they want to have enough new residences to remove the 3 dorms at the top of the hill, but not anytime soon and not if enrollment continues to grow as it has been.

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CWRU+South+Village+expansion+site-labele

 

THURSDAY, JANUARY 30, 2020

CWRU plans $72+ million dorm expansion, more coming

 

In most years, Case Western Reserve University's (CWRU) freshman classes get bigger. And each year, CWRU looks for ways to accommodate the growth of its enrollment that has surpassed 12,000, compared to 9,600 students in 2000. Their expansion options have involved building new dormitories as well as making it easier for more upperclassmen to live off campus.

But it's been five years since CWRU built a new dorm. That's due to change soon in the South Residential Village where Murray Hill and Adelbert roads intersect. There, two new dorms totaling 600 beds are due to see construction start next year and be completed in 2023, according to administrators and architects who made an on-campus presentation to students this week.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/01/cwru-plans-72-million-dorm-expansion.html

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On 1/28/2020 at 9:58 PM, tykaps said:

The only thing starting soon here will be the renovation of Fribley, the dining hall, so I assume it's part of that.

The Fribley renovations were approved by the Landmarks Commission and Cleveland Heights (City line goes through the building). Since this is all proposed within the boundaries of the Little Italy Historic District, it technically belongs in that thread. They probably won't get too much push back from the residents on this one as although they are eliminating parking (student mostly I would guess), they aren't proposing any demolition.

 

Now if they decide to expand across the street and propose eliminating the buildings on Murray Hill, you might get a bit of a fight.

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Location seems nice but unfortunately it's in the middle of two major roads and an active rail line. It needs a lot of work to be a more walkable area.

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1 hour ago, tykaps said:

Location seems nice but unfortunately it's in the middle of two major roads and an active rail line. It needs a lot of work to be a more walkable area.

More reason to use the transit that's next to them ūüėā. Take the train to Little Italy and walk ūüėā

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There was a TOD proposed there with a bus station on the ground level. I'll see if I can find the rendering. This was the site of RTA's previous bus station for UC.

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Here ya go. Threw in a UC-wide masterplan document too. Unfortunately the resolution from these graphics aren't great. These are all from 2006. You know you're getting old when 14 years ago doesn't seem that long ago....

 

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3 hours ago, KJP said:

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A new road plan like this would do wonders for the area. Maybe something to do coinciding with the new CWRU dorms and planned bridge to thinkbox.

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11 hours ago, KJP said:

Here ya go. Threw in a UC-wide masterplan document too. Unfortunately the resolution from these graphics aren't great. These are all from 2006. You know you're getting old when 14 years ago doesn't seem that long ago....

 

UC-Cedar-TOD-2006-1.jpg

 

UC-Cedar-TOD-2006-2.jpg

 

univcircomposite-2006.jpg

I still like the plan maybe now that the train station is moved the walkway can be placed in that direction. Designed correctly it could be a kick off of other development around there. Is the Bioenterprise building fully occupied? If not a conversion of a part of that building into residential would be possible as well. 

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53 minutes ago, Mendo said:

Those are awesome. Love that first one with massive overhang.

Completely agree!  While I'd be happy with any of them, the first one is my favorite!

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That first one is sharp, i really like that one!  I think this is a great idea..  bring more people to that beautiful area.

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this could be posted someplace else on the forum...  I checked the superman thread and it's not there....  if the statue is not going downtown then I think university circle is a good alternative...   if we could also get a museum in the circle along with a shuttle to the birthplace of shuster I think that would be a major attraction...  to save money, the museum would not need to be a stand alone building....     

 

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2018/02/superman_statue_needs_new_land.html

 

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Superman statue needs new landing site, Rock Hall locale out

Updated Jan 30, 2019; Posted Feb 06, 2018

 

By Michael Sangiacomo, The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio - Plans for the installation of a larger-than-life statue of Superman are once again up in the air. And not in a "Look, it's a bird..." way.

 

In a meeting Monday afternoon between city officials, sculptor David Deming and members of the statue committee, it was confirmed that the original site near the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum is no longer available.

 

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9 hours ago, lockdog said:

this could be posted someplace else on the forum...  I checked the superman thread and it's not there....  if the statue is not going downtown then I think university circle is a good alternative...   if we could also get a museum in the circle along with a shuttle to the birthplace of shuster I think that would be a major attraction...  to save money, the museum would not need to be a stand alone building....     

 

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2018/02/superman_statue_needs_new_land.html

 

 

 

How about the Superman thread?

 

 


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