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^If all 4 phases happen, that will be a significant boost to that neighborhood! I'm nervous though that the financing will struggle to find comparable condos in Norwood at price points high enough to justify the renovation costs.

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A source tells me that the tiny "skyscraper" in downtown Norwood -- the 6-story thing across from the Walgreen's, sustained significant water damage when its pipes burst while vacant.  Plus the owners foolishly sold off its back parking lot which inhibits their ability to get financing for a redevelopment.  So no telling what its future might be. 

 

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Get a look at Rookwood Exchange’s $15 million hotel

 

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The final piece of the more than $100 million mixed-use Rookwood Exchange development is open for business.

 

Residence Inn by Marriott, a 118-room hotel in Norwood, opened for business on Sept. 29. Developed by Jeffrey R. Anderson Real Estate Inc., Brandicorp and Lexington Management Corp., the hotel is expected to build on the success of the existing Courtyard by Marriott hotel at the property by catering to long-term business travelers.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/10/02/get-a-look-at-rookwood-exchange-s-15-million-hotel.html


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^Are those car lifts just for style points?  Like, some sucker takes a photo of their car up on the lift, posts to Facebook, and everyone asks where he is?  THE RESIDENCE INN BY MARRIOT, duh. 

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^Are those car lifts just for style points?  Like, some sucker takes a photo of their car up on the lift, posts to Facebook, and everyone asks where he is?  THE RESIDENCE INN BY MARRIOT, duh.

 

Car lifts will be valet only, its how they were able to meet parking requirements. It would be great to see more of these in the future instead of massive parking lots.

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Get a look at planned office project along Norwood Lateral

 

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A local developer is preparing a nearly 5-acre site along the Norwood Lateral for a class A office project.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2017/12/11/exclusive-get-a-look-at-planned-office-project.html


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^If all 4 phases happen, that will be a significant boost to that neighborhood! I'm nervous though that the financing will struggle to find comparable condos in Norwood at price points high enough to justify the renovation costs.

 

I take no joy in the fact that I anticipated this deal falling apart: http://www.norwoodstar.com/2018/04/02/legacy-lofts-on-courtland-development-is-not-happening/

 

That's too bad for Norwood as it would have been a good boost to the neighborhood.

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Was driving around the city before I had to go to work and looking for projects. Found this one at the corner of Montgomery and Waverly. It use to be a few older 2 story industrial buildings if I'm not mistaken. It was a nice little surprise to find.

 

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I've been spending more time in Rookwood commons, the big giant suburban strip mall with all the chain stores and whole foods, etc..

 

I've come to the conclusion that who ever approved this development is a massive idiot. 

 

Just why?

 

 

Don't get me started on why they choose to do a massive suburban strip mall instead of something more enclosed/urban minded. It's so close to the urban core, why did they want such a large suburban mall instead of something more fitting for it's surroundings? Blows my mind...this must have been during a time where "urban centric design" was considered a curse word and any development without 20 acres of surface parking was considered sin.

 

Next, the pedestrian safety, or lack thereof is disgusting. Walking from the parking lot to the chains you have cars bolting through the lanes of traffic. I almost got hit 3 times yesterday! No one looks, everyone is speeding. This area needs bump outs, 3D cross walks, larger and wider side walks, patrols. 

 

This development is so messed up. The design is stupid, out of place suburban worshipping, while being so near the urban core. Kenwood mall comes across as more urban than this crap.

 

Furthermore, this design was so focused on cars that nothing was designed for the pedestrian. It's disgusting and the city of Norwood should feel ashamed that this ugly thing was ever built.

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Maybe I'm thinking of something else, but didn't somebody buy Rookwood recently and started discussions about making changes?

 

Yes I agree, absolute mess.

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The main thing that bothers me about Rookwood is that there is no pedestrian (or car really) connection between the two halves. If you want to walk from Nordstrom Rack to the Gap, what should be 50 yards turns into walking all the way around the development and down a glorified alley with no sidewalks and cars wizzing by. It could be as easy as moving Talbots and Shoe Carnival to open up a pedestrian thruway across the buildings.

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The section near Edwards Rd. was built 10 years before the part closer to I-71.  To have built a connection in the middle would have meant breaking leases with absolutely no benefit to the bottom line.  

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Still they could have planned for a connection to be made after lease terms were up, but they blocked it on the new side too.  The Talbot's space looks to be sectioned off just right from above, with parapet walls on both sides, but they filled it in anyway.  The whole place really is a disaster, and the only reason it's successful I think is because of its proximity to Hyde Park and Oakley.  It has no inherent positive qualities, and even the driving experience is awful, especially from the Madison Road side.   

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Everyone calm down, Rookwood Commons and Pavilion will be connected. Its in the financial phase right now. The commons development will also be getting new development on the existing surface parking lots. Everything takes time. People also need to remember that both shopping centers when complete were a major gamble. No one would have developed something like that in the City of Cincinnati let alone outside Kenwood or Tri-County area (when it was hopping). There are successes and failures with anything. They brought in a lot of retailers and restaurants new to the market. They created a more convenient area to shop instead of the malls around the beltway. 

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The only big issue I have is with Rookwood (work a second job at one of the stores) is how much more parking there is on the Bed Bath and Beyond side opposed to the Nordstrom rack side. On any given summer Saturday or around the holidays it can be a pain to find any parking and they do not advertise very well that you can park in garage behind Potbelly’s. 

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^ Seems like most people are going to Joseph Beth, LongHorn, First Watch, or BW3, and that's where it's tightest.  It's also a tough haul from the garage to there with no sidewalks.

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Saw on Reddit today that West Elm is opening at Rookwood Commons (or pavilion, whichever one is to the west). They left Kenwood, and the Cincinnati market, in 2010. Glad to see them back, however, in other cities they are opening in more up and coming neighborhoods... Wonder why they didn't choose OTR? 

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35 minutes ago, 513to424 said:

Saw on Reddit today that West Elm is opening at Rookwood Commons (or pavilion, whichever one is to the west). They left Kenwood, and the Cincinnati market, in 2010. Glad to see them back, however, in other cities they are opening in more up and coming neighborhoods... Wonder why they didn't choose OTR? 

 

They did look in OTR for awhile, but couldnt find the sq. ft. numbers they were after. They are opening in the Commons next to REI. 

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