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Just now, marty15 said:

Right now, in this area, I imagine the residential would subsidize the retail, if anything. Transitional area still. 

With more density; Church & State, Franklin Circle, the plethora of other maybes that KJP has cited, that’ll certainly change. 

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Re: Snavely new construction - Units are not affordable, they will be Market Rate.  The office space will be for the Snavely Group itself. 

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16 minutes ago, RMB said:

Re: Snavely new construction - Units are not affordable, they will be Market Rate.  The office space will be for the Snavely Group itself. 

 

The new building yes. The renovation of the Painters Union building will be eight apartments renting at 80% of AMI.

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Read this story. https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/cleveland/11-million-dollar-development-on-clevelands-west-side-delayed-by-nesting-birds/95-c2c4252a-6627-4a44-a292-2cdc73a56dee

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On 3/22/2019 at 10:14 PM, KJP said:

 

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FRIDAY, MARCH 22, 2019

Ohio City's Kowalski bucks housing trend

 

A stretch of Detroit Avenue in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood, once known as Mariners' Row for its many boat dealers and boating stores, is quickly becoming home to a number of mid-rise apartment buildings. From The Quarter, Federal Knitting Mills, Mariner's Watch, Edge 32, to the latest and largest project yet -- Church + State -- more than a dozen blocks of Detroit Avenue next to the West Shoreway (now Edgewater Parkway) are lined with apartment buildings from four to 11 stories tall.

A notable exception is a holdout manufacturer, Kowalski Heat Treating Co., that has grown from 3,000 square feet to 83,000 square feet during its 44 years, adding nearly 23,000 square feet just in the past week.

 

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/03/ohio-citys-kowalski-bucks-housing-trend.html

 

v Old news 😉 ^

 

One Ohio City company exits, another expands

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/one-ohio-city-company-exits-another-expands

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There's a For Sale sign in front of A1 Luxury Cars at the corner of West 49th and Detroit. Hopefully it gets redeveloped into something other than a used car lot! 

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Agreed!

 

 

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"Most of us have been conditioned to regard military combat as exciting and glamorous -- an opportunity for men to prove their competence and courage. Since armies are legal, we feel that war is acceptable; in general, nobody feels that that war is criminal or that accepting it is a criminal attitude. In fact, we have been brainwashed. War is neither glamorous nor attractive. It is monstrous. Its very nature is one of tragedy and suffering" --Dalai Lama

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I don't see a problem with free parking. If people feel that it gets abused by people staying in one spot forever, then have a machine that prints out a time stamped slip to put in your window. Make it 2 hours max free parking, an extra hour cost you money. Parking meters on a side street is problematic. 

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SUNDAY, MAY 19, 2019

Mid-rise housing on Detroit Ave heads west

 

 

Housing continues to make its inexorable push westward along Detroit Avenue in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. The latest project is 4005 Detroit, a seven-story apartment building with ground-floor retail. Plans for the project were recently submitted to the city for approval.

Proposing the 36-unit residential development is Hayoun Corp. owner Adam Hayoun whose Ohio City resume includes notable historic renovations like the Belden Seymour House, 3805 Franklin Blvd., and the Masters House, 3811 Franklin Blvd. Hayoun is also the principal at ABC Renovation LLC.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/05/mid-rise-housing-on-detroit-ave-heads.html

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I am very Familiar with the people behind that proposal. As far as I know, they have never undertaken new construction before, but they are very bullish on OC, and have diverted more or less all of their resources that way. In addition to what you list, they have a number of rehab projects along Lorain as well. While they may not have experience in new construction yet, they definitely have access to money and investors. 

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"Most of us have been conditioned to regard military combat as exciting and glamorous -- an opportunity for men to prove their competence and courage. Since armies are legal, we feel that war is acceptable; in general, nobody feels that that war is criminal or that accepting it is a criminal attitude. In fact, we have been brainwashed. War is neither glamorous nor attractive. It is monstrous. Its very nature is one of tragedy and suffering" --Dalai Lama

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18 hours ago, KJP said:

4005+Detroit+Ave3.jpg

 

SUNDAY, MAY 19, 2019

Mid-rise housing on Detroit Ave heads west

 

 

Housing continues to make its inexorable push westward along Detroit Avenue in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. The latest project is 4005 Detroit, a seven-story apartment building with ground-floor retail. Plans for the project were recently submitted to the city for approval.

Proposing the 36-unit residential development is Hayoun Corp. owner Adam Hayoun whose Ohio City resume includes notable historic renovations like the Belden Seymour House, 3805 Franklin Blvd., and the Masters House, 3811 Franklin Blvd. Hayoun is also the principal at ABC Renovation LLC.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/05/mid-rise-housing-on-detroit-ave-heads.html

 

CANNOT WAIT FOR NIMBY "MY COMMUNITY IS NOT YOUR COMMODITY" reactions

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28 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

CANNOT WAIT FOR NIMBY "MY COMMUNITY IS NOT YOUR COMMODITY" reactions

That sign is always next to "all are welcome here" signs. 

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19 hours ago, KJP said:

SUNDAY, MAY 19, 2019

Mid-rise housing on Detroit Ave heads west

 

Housing continues to make its inexorable push westward along Detroit Avenue in Cleveland's Ohio City neighborhood. The latest project is 4005 Detroit, a seven-story apartment building with ground-floor retail. Plans for the project were recently submitted to the city for approval.

Proposing the 36-unit residential development is Hayoun Corp. owner Adam Hayoun whose Ohio City resume includes notable historic renovations like the Belden Seymour House, 3805 Franklin Blvd., and the Masters House, 3811 Franklin Blvd. Hayoun is also the principal at ABC Renovation LLC.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/05/mid-rise-housing-on-detroit-ave-heads.html

 

Nice! I remember townhomes were planned for 4005 Detroit a couple years ago. They were listed on MLS for a second, then disappeared. With all the development nearby I assumed the project would come back much bigger.

 

 

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I like the higher density of apartments or condos along Detroit, so its nice that the townhomes didn't go through. 

 

Also, does anyone know what is happening at 2104 W. 25th, a former appliance/furniture store? It looks like something is being done to the top, but I'm not sure. 

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1 hour ago, imjustinjk said:

I like the higher density of apartments or condos along Detroit, so its nice that the townhomes didn't go through. 

 

Also, does anyone know what is happening at 2104 W. 25th, a former appliance/furniture store? It looks like something is being done to the top, but I'm not sure. 


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On 5/19/2019 at 5:40 PM, PoshSteve said:

I am very Familiar with the people behind that proposal. As far as I know, they have never undertaken new construction before, but they are very bullish on OC, and have diverted more or less all of their resources that way. In addition to what you list, they have a number of rehab projects along Lorain as well. While they may not have experience in new construction yet, they definitely have access to money and investors. 

 

Spoke with the teams construction manager today. She confirmed that all financing is in place already, and the only things they need to work through are with the approvals. She also said this is all coming from private investors, and no opportunity zone funds, although they will be exploring that for future projects. I am completely forgetting where, but she also told me they recently purchased a vacant lot in the area where they have another new-build apartment project planned. 

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38 minutes ago, PoshSteve said:

 

Spoke with the teams construction manager today. She confirmed that all financing is in place already, and the only things they need to work through are with the approvals. She also said this is all coming from private investors, and no opportunity zone funds, although they will be exploring that for future projects. I am completely forgetting where, but she also told me they recently purchased a vacant lot in the area where they have another new-build apartment project planned. 

 

The crazy thing about Hayoun is he doesn't even need the banks. His investors are professional athletes like Omri Casspi and even Mark Cuban, I'm told. He wants go higher than seven stories at 4005 Detroit but the zoning limits him to 82 feet. If he can rezone the site for next level height district, he can go to 115 feet, or 11 stories. And one of his next projects is a little farther east on Detroit Avenue, but I'm going to hold off on that one until I can put it in my blog. There is too much going on right now to devote an article to each project, so I'm going to summarize them into a single article. Hope to get it done in the next day or two.

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One more cool view of Snavely Phase 3 (BTW, did anyone here yet report that Snavely is moving its offices from Chagrin Falls to this development?), which doesn't show the now-under construction Church & State development in the background. How much cooler will this scene look in a couple of years?? The density of this area is going to be tremendous and very vibrant....

 

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"Most of us have been conditioned to regard military combat as exciting and glamorous -- an opportunity for men to prove their competence and courage. Since armies are legal, we feel that war is acceptable; in general, nobody feels that that war is criminal or that accepting it is a criminal attitude. In fact, we have been brainwashed. War is neither glamorous nor attractive. It is monstrous. Its very nature is one of tragedy and suffering" --Dalai Lama

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2 minutes ago, YO to the CLE said:

I actually envision Gold Coast level density in the coming years. Basically between Franklin and Detroit and 45th and the river will be quite a dense little area

 

I would love that. The only space that should remain open in perpetuity is that little green space to the East of the Bop Stop 

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57 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

I feel like my Big Egg news went unnoticed - but reflects how insane it was to not sell that property

 

As far as I know, the firm that offered to buy the Big Egg still doesn't have a contract to buy another location. Perhaps @Clefan98 has an update?


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So the Voss property is on the market. Cool drone video by Aerial Agents! 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, KJP said:

So the Voss property is on the market. Cool done video by Aerial Agents! 

 

 

 

Kind of sad that Cleveland isn't able to retain Voss. However, their building will make some really cool apartments. The lot across the street is perfect new development to feed off the Market Square development. 

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1 hour ago, imjustinjk said:

 

Kind of sad that Cleveland isn't able to retain Voss. However, their building will make some really cool apartments. The lot across the street is perfect new development to feed off the Market Square development. 

 

 

Will be interesting and probably disappointing seeing how the eventual developer provides parking for the site.  Hopefully we see the current surface lot developed, but seems likely it just stays parking.  I'm still annoyed that MRN demolished a bar on Lorain Avenue to provide more parking for the United Bank Building. 

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8 minutes ago, StapHanger said:

 

 

Will be interesting and probably disappointing seeing how the eventual developer provides parking for the site.  Hopefully we see the current surface lot developed, but seems likely it just stays parking.  I'm still annoyed that MRN demolished a bar on Lorain Avenue to provide more parking for the United Bank Building. 

 

MRN has made mostly solid development moves, but they've been on shaky ground. Chinato is leaving bc they wouldn't negotiate with ZB. Ate their Saturday thankfully before they closed. I live in Lofts at Rosetta, and I'm honestly glad to be moving out next month. They've changed A LOT in the past few years that I've lived in their properties. It's really a crime to have any sort of flat surface parking abutting a main corridor such as W. 25th or Lorain. 

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Out of curiosity... what bar on Lorain? I remember Envy on 25th being demoed. Envy had some other things going on with it though, if I remember correctly. Like drug money front or something. For the record I hate all the surface lots in this area.

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Voss Industries property in Ohio City sells for nearly $4.8 million

 

https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/05/voss-industries-property-in-ohio-city-listed-at-12-million.html

 

By Jordyn Grzelewski, The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio –– The longtime Ohio City headquarters of Voss Industries changed hands Wednesday for $4.78 million, according to Cuyahoga County property records.

 

The property was not owned by Voss, but by an entity tied to former Voss executives. That group, Apocalypse Development Ltd., bought the property at 2168 West 25th St. in 2000 for $1.1 million, according to property records. The new buyer is identified in property records as R&L Ohio City LLC, which registered with the state last month. Who is behind the LLC is not clear from public records.

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It looks like David Rotenberg from Bixby Bridge Capital, LLC is the buyer.  He is listed on the incorporation documents for R&L Ohio City LLC.

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