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On 4/18/2020 at 3:43 PM, lafont said:

The vicinity of the developing Franklin Circle is currently one of the most pedestrian-unfriendly projects in the over-60 years I've been following construction projects, but it's certainly rewarding to finally see evidence of the new circle being formed:

 

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Quarantine has me messed up - but I'd regularly take Franklin to 25th as my daily commute... Is the circle currently under construction and how long will that strip be closed for?

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1 hour ago, YABO713 said:

 

Quarantine has me messed up - but I'd regularly take Franklin to 25th as my daily commute... Is the circle currently under construction and how long will that strip be closed for?

  • The roundabout is under construction. You can see the new northeast and southeast curb lines in the photo. The dirt area in the center left of the photo is where the splitter island in the middle of Franklin will go.
  • Franklin is scheduled to be closed between W 25th and W 29th until October. And at the moment 29th is also closed in Hingetown. Take Detroit or Bridge instead.
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23 hours ago, KJP said:

Glad to see Crain's got the story. Sometimes it makes me nervous when I'm the only one who gets a story....

 

April 19, 2020 04:00 AM

Chicago developer Stoneleigh buys site in Ohio City, plans apartment project

 

Stoneleigh Cos., a Chicago-based apartment and office builder, is preparing plans for a $60 million, 241-suite project at the west edge of Hope Memorial Bridge between Ohio City and downtown.

 

Rick Cavenaugh, senior principal and Stoneleigh founder, said it's the kind of site his company seeks because it's central to people going to or from downtown, but also near restaurants and amenities where people like to live.

 

"It's not an internal site in the neighborhood that's near where people want to go; it's on the way to where people are going," Cavenaugh said. "It will have views of downtown Cleveland and be within walking distance from the West Side Market and West 25th Street."

 

Stoneleigh on March 30 shelled out $7.6 million for the four-acre parcel to Brickhaus Integrity Ohio LLC, according to Cuyahoga County online property records.

 

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https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/chicago-developer-stoneleigh-buys-site-ohio-city-plans-apartment-project

 

Sorry I'm one of those without a Crains subscription. But does anyone know where this four-acre parcel is exactly?

 

Thank you in advance!

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It is at the intersection of Lorain and W 20th, on the NW corner, right after the Carnegie bridge ramp ends.  It is the lot that has been fenced off for a long time with Brickhaus signs on the fence.

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Ooops. I should have posted that Crain's article in the Duck Island thread.


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Does anyone know where the Sherwin-Williams that was in the now-demolished shopping strip is moving to in Ohio City? I know they're in a temporary location on the East Side but they've said they're coming back to Ohio City.

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On 4/20/2020 at 3:58 PM, ytown2ctown said:

Now for RTA to make W44/W41 a Red Line station!

 

Now to get too tangential, but wouldn't that have to be underground or am I way off? 

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21 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

Now to get too tangential, but wouldn't that have to be underground or am I way off? 

 

It would be below street level. But the potential for new development is greater at Fulton, and track-distance-wise it's midway between the Ohio City and West 65th station stop. And one of the potential developers, NRP Group, has already reached out to RTA to put a station stop at Fulton. I touched on these subjects in an article from February....

 

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/02/fulton-road-deadzone-to-be-enlivened-by.html

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34 minutes ago, lafont said:

Does anyone know where the Sherwin-Williams that was in the now-demolished shopping strip is moving to in Ohio City? I know they're in a temporary location on the East Side but they've said they're coming back to Ohio City.

 

Aren't they going to 44th and Lorain in the new building there?

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On 4/24/2020 at 8:54 AM, urbanetics_ said:

 

 

Sorry to be behind the curve but does construction on this section indicate that funding for the entire greenway has been secured? e.g., the bridge portion? Does anyone have a map of the sections that are getting built out?

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8 minutes ago, ASP1984 said:

 

Sorry to be behind the curve but does construction on this section indicate that funding for the entire greenway has been secured? e.g., the bridge portion? Does anyone have a map of the sections that are getting built out?

 

Doesn't include the bridge -- at least not going across the RTA bridge into downtown. To do so would require relocating track on the east half of the bridge. That would be a monumental expense in the tens of millions of dollars. The funded portion of the project is from West 53rd Street, just east of Zone Rec Center, to the west end of the RTA bridge and down the hill to Franklin.

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Progress report....

 

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23 hours ago, KJP said:

Progress report....

 

 

Are they really going to cover that with "thin brick veneer" as the plans indicated?

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Building permit was uploaded Tuesday for Chad Kertesz's 24 unit 3 story apartment building at 4815 Franklin. Not much has changed in the proposed rendering since last time it was posted here except for a few minor details and the addition of balconies. All of the units will be studio or one bedroom.

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On 4/30/2020 at 12:46 AM, tykaps said:

Building permit was uploaded Tuesday for Chad Kertesz's 24 unit 3 story apartment building at 4815 Franklin. Not much has changed in the proposed rendering since last time it was posted here except for a few minor details and the addition of balconies. All of the units will be studio or one bedroom.

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Now if we can just get Detroit ave. cleaned up that far west, we may be able to see a cohesive transition from Ohio City to Gordon Square without any of the rough patches in between. 

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New pic of Dexter Place from W29 today. Big difference compared to last time I snapped it a couple of weeks ago. Also, I can't say enough how much I just love brick streets.

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Does anyone have factual, historical information here?  I'd appreciate a definitive answer rather than conjectural.  The new Franklin Circle being constructed right now is within the old brick pavement that exists particularly on the south side of where Franklin had been. My question is: are the old brick areas actually pieces of the old Franklin Circle, meaning the new is clearly smaller than the old one was, or are the brick areas just remnants of plazas that used to surround the actual street circle?  Somehow trhe brick doesn't quite look like a street.  Does anyone know if the old Franklin Circle actually was brick ;a little difficult to pictured    One brick section is right outside a hospital entrance (not currently used) and I doubt if that brick portion would have been part of the street - its  being so close to a hospital entrance.

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21 minutes ago, lafont said:

Does anyone have factual, historical information here?  I'd appreciate a definitive answer rather than conjectural.  The new Franklin Circle being constructed right now is within the old brick pavement that exists particularly on the south side of where Franklin had been. My question is: are the old brick areas actually pieces of the old Franklin Circle, meaning the new is clearly smaller than the old one was, or are the brick areas just remnants of plazas that used to surround the actual street circle?  Somehow trhe brick doesn't quite look like a street.  Does anyone know if the old Franklin Circle actually was brick ;a little difficult to pictured    One brick section is right outside a hospital entrance (not currently used) and I doubt if that brick portion would have been part of the street - its  being so close to a hospital entrance.

 

Lots of good info on the Circle out there.

 

Cleveland Historical

Encyclopedia of Cleveland History

Cleveland Historic Maps

 

From the above we can see that

  • It was the first park on the west side -- 1836.
  • The street around the circle was paved with brick.
  • There were no plazas around the old circle - the street was indeed where the brick areas in front of the church and hospital are (and, until very recently, where the new apartment building is). The pavers currently in front of the hospital are not original, though.
  • However, the street was not as close to the hospital because that wing had not yet been built when the circle was functional.
  • The old circle had a radius of 140' to the outside of the street. The street itself was 30' wide.
  • But the circle was bisected first by Franklin Blvd itself, and then later by several streetcar lines, so by the time it was removed it really didn't function much like a traffic circle or park anymore.

From the plans for the new roundabout, here, it has a radius of about 70' to the outside of the street. (The circle itself seems to have a radius of 45'.) So nothing like the original Franklin Circle.

 

 

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Meant to post last week: the Painters Union Building (2605 Detroit) which is part of Snavely Phase III - is undergoing exterior renovation as of ~10 days ago. A company called Cleveland Building Restoration has been contracted for the project (as seen on the banners they've hung over the building). They've done some nice work based on the portfolio on their website.

 

Looks like they're restoring the brick and facade. I'll try to post photos this week. 

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6 minutes ago, BJBaes said:

Meant to post last week: the Painters Union Building (2605 Detroit) which is part of Snavely Phase III - is undergoing exterior renovation as of ~10 days ago. A company called Cleveland Building Restoration has been contracted for the project (as seen on the banners they've hung over the building). They've done some nice work based on the portfolio on their website.

 

Looks like they're restoring the brick and facade. I'll try to post photos this week. 

Thanks for the tidbit.  They really do good work.  And not to get crazy off topic but that google street view pic from your post shows 4 different types of street lights within 60 feet of one another.  This drives me crazy.

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Looks like they’re turning Bounce into a coworking space. I’ll miss drag queens being on that corner 😢 Oh nostalgia.

 

I have to admit the rooftop restaurant and patio concept is nice though...

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Glad to see the building being reused now. Going in there without the queens will feel pretty odd at first though. I think that roof top patio will be great though, especially with all the new infill around it. Church and State across the street will give a big city feel to that space for sure, and I bet the views of downtown down the street will be nice too.

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2 hours ago, Enginerd said:

Looks like they’re turning Bounce into a coworking space. I’ll miss drag queens being on that corner 😢 Oh nostalgia.

 

I have to admit the rooftop restaurant and patio concept is nice though...

 

 

Is there a sale pending? Or was it an entity sale? Who's the buyer?


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1 hour ago, KJP said:

 

Is there a sale pending? Or was it an entity sale? Who's the buyer?

This is what I got in a Franklin-Clinton Block Club email...

 

DEVELOPER PRESENTATION: 
CoHatch 2814 Detroit Avenue (Bounce Night Club site); Matt Davis, Founder & CEO; John and Chris Watkins, Principals; David Bowen, Principal, Bowen+ Architecture; Tim Lai  and Eliza Ho, Principals, Tim Lai ArchitecT; Austin Whathen, Equity Construction Solutions.  You can find information on CoHatch here: https://www.cohatch.com/

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Well, at least we (the gays) still have that historic plaque on W. 28th! I mean, any other physical sign of our presence in that area is gone, but we got a sign!

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West 29th.

4 hours ago, andrew0816 said:

Well, at least we (the gays) still have that historic plaque on W. 28th! I mean, any other physical sign of our presence in that area is gone, but we got a sign!

 wig trixie GIF

 

 

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48 minutes ago, lafont said:

West 29th.

 

You know the straights win when we tear each other down

 

(Note: There's an Alyssa Edwards' gif I want to use but it has a curse word or two in it and I think the mods wouldn't appreciate that)

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9 hours ago, andrew0816 said:

You know the straights win when we tear each other down

 

(Note: There's an Alyssa Edwards' gif I want to use but it has a curse word or two in it and I think the mods wouldn't appreciate that)

Sassy Drag Race GIF by Cosmopolitan

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SATURDAY, MAY 23, 2020

Co-working biz expands to Cleveland with Hingetown launch

 

In 2020, as the practice of social distancing has dominated, a relatively new business is taking the opposite approach. COhatch, founded in Columbus in 2016, is creating a community-centric approach to co-working where people not only work together, but socialize, exercise, host events and support new business ideas with the help of local investors in the same location.

COhatch is designed to be a place to work, meet and live, and its vision is to replicate a "whole life" approach through aggressive expansion nationwide. The goal is to be in 500 locations in 50 communities in the U.S. by 2030.

 

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https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/05/community-co-working-biz-expands-to.html

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On 5/22/2020 at 3:59 PM, andrew0816 said:

You know the straights win when we tear each other down

 

(Note: There's an Alyssa Edwards' gif I want to use but it has a curse word or two in it and I think the mods wouldn't appreciate that)

 

The only issues I have with profanity in posts is for those viewing the forum from work and potentially being blocked by filters, etc. I’m not an IT guy but if that’s not an issue since it’s a gif/meme,  have at it. And if it features a sassy drag queen? Heyyyy gurrrl! 🌈 (side note, who knew we have a respectable showing of the Rainbow Tribe on the forum?)

 

As far as Bounce becoming a co-working  space - can’t say it was ever my favorite club but glad to see the site is still viable. I just wonder about the co-working business model in the time of a pandemic. As far as the neighborhood changing, it’s just the pattern of redevelopment; back in the day it was the Warehouse District - “our people” and the creative crowd set up shop, others took notice, and the rest is history. 

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Agenda for tomorrow's CPC meeting is out! http://clevelandohio.gov/sites/default/files/planning/drc/agenda/2020/CPC-Agenda-WebEx-meeting-060520.pdf

One thing I found interesting is that Dureiko Construction (who specializes in kitchen and bath remodels) is trying to get in on the development game to build townhomes at the southeast corner of Keiper Ct and W 34th Pl. I'm wondering how realistic this proposal is. Hopefully find out once more details are revealed.

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6 minutes ago, tykaps said:

Agenda for tomorrow's CPC meeting is out! http://clevelandohio.gov/sites/default/files/planning/drc/agenda/2020/CPC-Agenda-WebEx-meeting-060520.pdf

One thing I found interesting is that Dureiko Construction (who specializes in kitchen and bath remodels) is trying to get in on the development game to build townhomes at the southeast corner of Keiper Ct and W 34th Pl. I'm wondering how realistic this proposal is. Hopefully find out once more details are revealed.

 

Dan is a good friend of mine - he's done everything from townhomes to mansions (Vermillion area) in addition to kitchens and baths....And good news, I would say there is a 95% chance of this project happening

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2 minutes ago, Clefan98 said:

 

Dan is a good friend of mine - he's done everything from townhomes to mansions (Vermillion area) in addition to kitchens and baths....And good news, I would say there is a 95% chance of this project happening

Awesome to hear! Didn't see much of those projects online. Do you know any details about this one in particular?

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28 minutes ago, tykaps said:

Awesome to hear! Didn't see much of those projects online. Do you know any details about this one in particular?

 

He subs out most of the exterior and framing, last I heard (about a month ago) he was working on a deal with KNEZ to frame these. Then his crew will come in and complete the interior/finishes.

 

He was expecting his construction loan to close in 45-60 days and has 50% of the project already funded with cash from a few local investors.

 

From what I recall these will be on the smaller end (1200-1350sq ft). Next time we talk, I'll definitely find out more.

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Townhouses to replace junkyard at 2300 Fulton.

 

 

"...Townhouses in the $300,000 price range are proposed by Knez Homes of Concord Township for the nearly 3-acre site at 2300 Fulton Road.

The parcel was for decades the home of Fulton Road Auto Wrecking, which was shut down in the 1990s for environmental infractions and efforts by the Ohio City Inc. neighborhood group...."

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/redo-proposed-former-ohio-city-junkyard

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It's a smaller plot, I gotta imagine only 3 maybe 4 townhomes could fit there. Interestingly it looks like there's 3 lots next to it (two owned by the land bank). Combining all 5 lots would make a very sizable area for development. (This is talking about the Dan Dureiko project).

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^oh, thanks. I didn't realize it was already posted! Though, I guess the Crains article is a new addition.

 

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A view of the back of the Snavely Phase III building progress from Church Ave. Does anyone know what this random “door” is that’s almost flush against the Rex Body Shop building? It’s been there for several months. 

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3 minutes ago, Pugu said:

^oh, thanks. I didn't realize it was already posted! Though, I guess the Crains article is a new addition.

 

The Crain's article is new, as a homeowner very near to this, I really hope they receive approval! 

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40 minutes ago, dastler said:

It's a smaller plot, I gotta imagine only 3 maybe 4 townhomes could fit there. Interestingly it looks like there's 3 lots next to it (two owned by the land bank). Combining all 5 lots would make a very sizable area for development. (This is talking about the Dan Dureiko project).


I think the land bank lots will be a part of this project.  

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