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I really wonder who the grocer for this will be. The Biz1st article says it's a "national chain" with a "boutique neighborhood concept"

 

39k is way too big for a Trader Joe's (usually 10-15), but it's about the same size as a standard Whole Foods (though idk about one going in so close to Lane Ave?)

 

Won't be anything from Kroger, GE, or Target either given the location...

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I’m not a fan of the hotel parking lot right on 5th Ave. it’s such a lazy, and safe design solution.

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If anything, they actually changed this to be more suburban than urban. More surface parking, less apartments... the opposite direction they should've gone, but far too common with Columbus development.  Honestly not that impressed.

 

Agreed.  5th doesn't get much pedestrian activity.  Was hoping they were done putting parking lots next to the street in that area.

 

It's not like Waggenbrenner doesn't know how to do urban development right.  It's just that something seems to always get lost in translation when developers move to these larger-scale developments.  They tend to fall back into more suburban layouts, likely because that's what they're used to doing at that scale.

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I’m not a fan of the hotel parking lot right on 5th Ave. it’s such a lazy, and safe design solution.

 

What they could've done is built a garage there with ground-level retail.  At least that would've activated the street.  It's just too much empty space all around. 

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Why is it that Columbus developments always seem to "regress" when they go through revisions? smh. It is a rare moment when things get upgraded (like that place near Grandview Avenue and Dublin road getting the apparent upgrade to a much more dense development).

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^I think its because Columbus' small developer community (a lot of them are 2nd and 3rd generation family owned) was focused mainly on suburban development until 5-10 years ago. Suburban development is easy and cheap and the rate of return is pretty high. These developers generally don't want to absorb the higher costs of urban development and try to apply suburban solution to urban projects. Costs drove the changes to the Battelle project.

 

That said, I think that some are getting the hang of urban development - underground parking, higher densities, etc. Some firms are better than others.

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Definitely a disappointing regression. The original rendering I thought was pretty realistic overall. This updated one with the setback grocery and surface parking and setback hotel is definitely just trying to cater to retailers/hotels that are pointing to every other hotel and grocery in that kind of neighborhood in Columbus and whining that they look inaccessible without the surface parking. The hotel should definitely be utilizing a parking deck solution -- look at the Courtyard on the Ohio River in Covington, KY. The grocer would definitely be more difficult to amuse -- people driving to a grocery store want to see a quick in-and-put and parking garages scare people away from that. Their goal is just to look like they can get people in the door as easily as possible.

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Coffee Shop and Apartments Planned for Historic Neil Avenue Church

 

A historic church building at 1334 Neil Ave. will be getting the adaptive reuse treatment. A coffee shop and apartments are planned for the building, which sits at the corner of West Sixth Avenue, tucked neatly into the fabric of the Dennison Place neighborhood.

 

Built in 1880, the building was home to the Neil Avenue United Presbyterian Church until 1965, when it was sold to the Columbus Mennonite Church. That congregation remained in the building until 1998, when it sold the property and moved to Clintonville.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/coffee-shop-and-apartments-planned-for-former-neil-avenue-church-bw1

 

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This isn't one of the biggest development projects, but it is interesting as an example of how High Street development in the Short North can push existing businesses to relocate and redevelop nearby areas:

 

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Slated for demolition, Short North child-care center expanding in move to Harrison West

By Carrie Ghose  – Staff Reporter, Columbus Business First

May 30, 2018, 6:53am

 

A child-care center has teamed up with a tech entrepreneur and prominent Central Ohio developer on a $3 million renovation to a Harrison West office building to replace a Short North site slated for demolition.

 

Little Dreamers Big Believers LLC has grown to three locations with 355 children and 100 employees since 2007, when founder Sarah Eichorn, then 19 years old, leased space on North High Street and Third Avenue.  The center was full within six months and still has a waiting list, but the building will be torn down by December to make way for a five-story apartment complex.

 

The center will move a mile west into a former civil engineering office at 870 Michigan Avenue in Harrison West.  The move will increase the center's capacity to 158 children from 115.  Celmark Development Group is finishing the basement and building a first-floor addition to increase space from 7,800 square feet to nearly 14,000 square feet.  Part of the existing parking lot will be converted to a nature-themed playground.

 

MORE: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/05/30/slated-for-demolition-short-north-child-care.html

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Grocery Store Dropped from Plans for Battelle Land

 

More changes have been made to the plan to develop 20 acres of Battelle land south of West Fifth Avenue. Most significantly, a 39,000 square foot grocery store – which was included in a proposal presented to the neighborhood in March – has been dropped from the plan.

 

A representative of Wagenbrenner Development, the company that has been spearheading the project since it was first announced in February of last year, said that the tenant that had been lined up for the grocery store spot recently backed out of the project, leading to the changes.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/grocery-store-dropped-from-plans-for-battelle-land-bw1

 

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Woof... That site plan keeps getting worse every iteration this goes through... I hope they can get on with it soon, I'm scared to imagine how it would change next

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$160M Harrison West redevelopment changing plans

 

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A $160 million mixed-use development in Harrison West is seeking more input from neighbors as it changes plans.

 

Wagenbrenner Development has told the Harrison West Society that it's changing the proposal for 21 acres owned by Battelle between 5th and 3rd avenues and west of Perry Street.

 

A high-end grocery story had been projected as an anchor tenant with a 40,000-square-foot space there, but has withdrawn from the project, according to information from Harrison West Society.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/07/02/160m-harrison-west-redevelopment-changing-plans.html

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Have there been any plans published by Battelle for plans to replace this parking? Any garages or upgrades on their campus? How much do they currently utilize this surface lot?

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More housing proposed at Battelle site in Harrison West

 

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The team of developers transforming a Battelle parking lot into a mixed-use development has its eye on more housing for the 21-acre development in Harrison West.

 

Wagenbrenner Development and Fortress Real Estate are planning a mixed-use development on land in Harrison West, though it's been subject to a number of iterations, including this previous one.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/09/21/more-housing-proposed-at-battelle-site-in-harrison.html

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There's a lot wrong with that project but I feel like it will probably move ahead as planned.

 

They have structured parking along 5th street where they put metal screening and openings to the garage facing the sidewalk. That's not a good pedestrian friendly design and makes for a bad streetscape.

 

The hotel is setback with surface parking from 5th which makes the park area front the hotel nicely but it's bad for 5th, and as a new build you'd think they could just make the garage big enough so that they wouldn't need any surface parking.

 

You'd think these urban infill projects would be more "urban" but surface parking lots facing walkable urban streets in historic neighborhoods shows a suburban mentality from the developer and the city isn't willing to crack down on bad design as if that's going to somehow make developers not build in Columbus. People want to be here and build here so why not make what gets built nicer?

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There's a lot wrong with that project but I feel like it will probably move ahead as planned.

 

They have structured parking along 5th street where they put metal screening and openings to the garage facing the sidewalk. That's not a good pedestrian friendly design and makes for a bad streetscape.

 

The hotel is setback with surface parking from 5th which makes the park area front the hotel nicely but it's bad for 5th, and as a new build you'd think they could just make the garage big enough so that they wouldn't need any surface parking.

 

You'd think these urban infill projects would be more "urban" but surface parking lots facing walkable urban streets in historic neighborhoods shows a suburban mentality from the developer and the city isn't willing to crack down on bad design as if that's going to somehow make developers not build in Columbus. People want to be here and build here so why not make what gets built nicer?

 

I can't see the full article, but it looks like the hotel (westernmost building, I thought) has no setback with surface parking in back now based on the new rendering. Or is that an old rendering?

 

I've lived within a quarter mile of this site for 5 years now, and I walk/bike past it almost every day on my commute. I agree with everything you're saying about wanting all the cars in a more well-hidden structure, but this is such a huge leap from what we have there now and it is going to permanently preserve a lot of that privately owned green space. Would I be happier with even more green space, all single-family home infill to keep traffic low, and keeping the grocery store? Yeah, sure, but I am willing to trade a lot to keep that park on third.

 

The fact is, the parking structure is going to be contiguous with Battelle's surface lots and OSUWMC as you go north, not a residential neighborhood. Nobody is ever going to be fooled walking down that stretch of 5th that they aren't in an area with a bunch of big buildings and parking lots. More trees isn't going to change that on the opposite side of fifth you have a gigantic surface lot backed by big air exchange machines and Battelle's shipping and receiving. I would be happiest if the apartments on the east side were less modern and stepped back from Perry as they went up, that way it would merge a bit more cleanly with those lovely homes on Vermont. Otherwise, I see this as a huge win for the neighborhood.

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There's a lot wrong with that project but I feel like it will probably move ahead as planned.

 

They have structured parking along 5th street where they put metal screening and openings to the garage facing the sidewalk. That's not a good pedestrian friendly design and makes for a bad streetscape.

 

The hotel is setback with surface parking from 5th which makes the park area front the hotel nicely but it's bad for 5th, and as a new build you'd think they could just make the garage big enough so that they wouldn't need any surface parking.

 

You'd think these urban infill projects would be more "urban" but surface parking lots facing walkable urban streets in historic neighborhoods shows a suburban mentality from the developer and the city isn't willing to crack down on bad design as if that's going to somehow make developers not build in Columbus. People want to be here and build here so why not make what gets built nicer?

 

I can't see the full article, but it looks like the hotel (westernmost building, I thought) has no setback with surface parking in back now based on the new rendering. Or is that an old rendering?

 

I've lived within a quarter mile of this site for 5 years now, and I walk/bike past it almost every day on my commute. I agree with everything you're saying about wanting all the cars in a more well-hidden structure, but this is such a huge leap from what we have there now and it is going to permanently preserve a lot of that privately owned green space. Would I be happier with even more green space, all single-family home infill to keep traffic low, and keeping the grocery store? Yeah, sure, but I am willing to trade a lot to keep that park on third.

 

The fact is, the parking structure is going to be contiguous with Battelle's surface lots and OSUWMC as you go north, not a residential neighborhood. Nobody is ever going to be fooled walking down that stretch of 5th that they aren't in an area with a bunch of big buildings and parking lots. More trees isn't going to change that on the opposite side of fifth you have a gigantic surface lot backed by big air exchange machines and Battelle's shipping and receiving. I would be happiest if the apartments on the east side were less modern and stepped back from Perry as they went up, that way it would merge a bit more cleanly with those lovely homes on Vermont. Otherwise, I see this as a huge win for the neighborhood.

 

None of what is shown here reflects the current proposal, but this one is closest to it:

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I don't agree with the logic in your post that essentially is saying because the Battelle site is badly designed and has poor urban form, that lets this brand new project off the hook from being as good as it can be. Battelle may redevelop their entire campus, they may move from this location, or redevelop surface parking in exchange for structured parking. You can't assume the north of this site is going to stay the same forever.

 

I don't oppose this project, I think it will be good for the neighborhood I just think that small tweaks are being overlooked that would make it a much better contribution to the neighborhood.

 

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There's a lot wrong with that project but I feel like it will probably move ahead as planned.

 

They have structured parking along 5th street where they put metal screening and openings to the garage facing the sidewalk. That's not a good pedestrian friendly design and makes for a bad streetscape.

 

The hotel is setback with surface parking from 5th which makes the park area front the hotel nicely but it's bad for 5th, and as a new build you'd think they could just make the garage big enough so that they wouldn't need any surface parking.

 

You'd think these urban infill projects would be more "urban" but surface parking lots facing walkable urban streets in historic neighborhoods shows a suburban mentality from the developer and the city isn't willing to crack down on bad design as if that's going to somehow make developers not build in Columbus. People want to be here and build here so why not make what gets built nicer?

I think you're reacting to an older version of the plan and I agree with your assessment. If you look at the Business First rendering (and I'm assuming this is more current than the site plan) it looks like the hotel is now on 5th Ave. with surface parking south of the building. It also looks like the structured parking is not directly on 5th.

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No, I'm not. The Business First rendering is very old. I've seen the most recent plans for this project as of this week. There is surface parking along 5th between the hotel and the structured parking abuts 5th at the sidewalk.

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No, I'm not. The Business First rendering is very old. I've seen the most recent plans for this project as of this week. There is surface parking along 5th between the hotel and the structured parking abuts 5th at the sidewalk.

 

Based on the newer site map you posted I am definitely more inclined to agree with your criticism, although my least favorite parts are the more massive apartment block design and skinnier southern green space.

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No, I'm not. The Business First rendering is very old. I've seen the most recent plans for this project as of this week. There is surface parking along 5th between the hotel and the structured parking abuts 5th at the sidewalk.

I still agree with your assessment. Look at the developers involved - M/I Homes, Daimler and Continental are essentially suburban developers.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Battelle Development Now Called Founders Park, Could Break Ground Before Year’s End

 

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The 20-acre development planned for Battelle parking lots in Harrison West has a new name, a revised site plan, and a chance to break ground before the end of the year.

 

Now called Founders Park, the latest tweaks to the layout and programming of the development were presented to the Harrison West Society earlier this month. That group signed off on the necessary zoning variances, clearing the way for the project to go before City Council and for the development team to start pulling permits and planning for construction.

 

Joseph Reidy, General Counsel for Wagenbrenner Development, said that site grading could start before the end of the year, followed by infrastructure work and the first vertical construction as soon as next spring. He stressed that the exact timeline will depend on “additional approvals that we’re waiting on from the city.”

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/battelle-development-now-called-founders-park-bw1

 

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Sad that it got progressively worse with each iteration.  Better than a parking lot I guess. I still do not understand why they did not make it more 'urban' given the location. I bet that parking lot across the street will not remain in that state forever-that could have been a nice urban little stretch of street. Oh well.

 

I do like the look of the single family homes. Very nice looking in the rendering.

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First Look: 630 housing units coming to Harrison West in newly named Founders Park development

 

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The redevelopment of 21 acres of mostly surface parking in Harrison West is moving forward, bringing more than 630 residences to the neighborhood.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/10/01/first-look-630-housing-units-coming-to-harrison.html

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