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since we don't get much north central ohio news updates:

 

Sandusky must continue growing, city manager says

BOB ZOELLNER, Morning Journal Correspondent02/25/2005

 

 

SANDUSKY -- Communication difficulties are something City Manager Michael Will says he has experienced with the seven city commissioners recently, but yesterday Will had no trouble communicating his vision for the future of Sandusky.

 

©The Morning Journal 2005

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wow that looks reaallly niiiice --- now that is how to use the lakefront property! thanks for finding and posting the rendering!

 

"you're wrong.???"

 

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oh i didnt realize that was your handle.

 

i was looking at those links. very impressive. the city street side rendering is worth putting up too,eh?:

 

LPaperDistrict2.jpg

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more movement on this from today:

 

Wave pool site eyed for condos

By RICHARD PAYERCHIN, Sandusky Bureau Chief03/15/2005

 

SANDUSKY -- A 10-story condominium building is one possible use for the Surf's Up Wave Action Pool on Sandusky's waterfront, according to a pitch made yesterday to the Sandusky City Commission.

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So cool..thats one of those industrial piers isnt it?...they are turning it into "lofts on the water"......wow..way to go Sandusky!

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The plan drew no criticism but prompted an inquiry from Jim Eiselstein, commodore of the nearby Sandusky Yacht Club.

 

hmm, i see a lot of "captains" of industry and finance running around noo yook --- but i think a "commodore" trumps them!

 

i wonder how does one get to be a commodore? is that like a kentucky colonel? hehe.

 

 

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From the 5/15/05 Toledo Blade:

 

 

Magnet in the works

Cedar Point's hometown branches out

By MARY-BETH McLAUGHLIN

BLADE BUSINESS WRITER

 

SANDUSKY - Dan Delahunt admits he's not a professional developer, so it was more of a gut feeling that led him to buy and renovate a downtown building into nine condominiums and three retail spaces.

 

Contact Mary-Beth McLaughlin at

mmclaughlin@theblade.com or 419-724-6199.

 

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050515/BUSINESS06/505140341

 

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From the 5/28/05 Toledo Blade:

 

 

Port Clinton opens downtown marina

Plan would greatly expand 8-slip site

By STEVE MURPHY

BLADE STAFF WRITER

 

PORT CLINTON - City officials have opened Port Clinton's first municipal marina, just in time for the boating season.

 

The Portage River dock, which has space for up to eight boats, was dedicated on Thursday at the foot of Jefferson Street. Space in the transient facility will be rented on a first-come, first-served basis.

 

Contact Steve Murphy at:

smurphy@theblade.com or 419-724-6078.

 

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050528/NEWS17/505280384/-1/NEWS

 

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From the 7/1/05 Toledo Blade:

 

PHOTO: Second Chief Larry Angelo discusses the federal lawsuit filed by the Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma, as Bert Kleiden, secretary of council, left, and Chief Charles Todd look on.  (THE BLADE/LORI KING)

 

Tribe sues to acquire state land on North Bass

Oklahoma Ottawas seek fishing rights too

 

An Oklahoma-based Native American tribe whose ancestral roots lie in northwest Ohio yesterday filed the first of two lawsuits in federal court related to its claim to state-owned land on North Bass Island in Lake Erie.

 

The Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma claims a treaty it made with the federal government 200 years ago provides the tribe with unrestricted fishing and hunting rights.  The tribe is seeking recognition from the state for those rights that would allow it to establish a commercial fishery on North Bass Island.

 

Richard Rogovin, the Columbus attorney who filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court, said a second lawsuit would be filed later this year in an attempt to pursue the tribe's property rights to about 300 acres on the northern half of the island.

 

The tribe claims the land was not among property that was relinquished to the federal government with the signing of the Treaty of Fort Industry on July 4, 1805, and that the Ottawas retained ownership of the property when the Canadian border was moved north of the island in 1822.

 

MORE: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050701/NEWS02/507010560/-1/NEWS

 

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The Lake Erie Western Basin is THE best place to fish on all the great lakes... and it's really not even close otherwise.  There are some rather absurd statistics that I have been told in the past to the equivalent that more fish are caught there than the rest of the great lakes combined, and the like.  May not be true but lets just say the fish are biting.

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It's true that Lake Erie as a whole produces more fish than the other lakes combined. The Western Basin (Toledo to Sandusky) is where most of the fishing is at. The Western Basin is very shallow at only 45 feet deep (barely deep enough for "salties"), has some great reefs for fish, and is the warmest water on the Great Lakes (water by the beaches can reach 80 degrees in summer). All this combines to give the area a long, very productive fishing season. The Maumee River is also one of the best walleye spawning grounds on earth (IMHO, walleye are some of the best tasting fish). The Western Basin also is HUGE for tourism. The Lake Erie Islands/Marblehead area bring in a ton of people. The water is clean there and on a good day the lake looks gorgeous- almost tropical. South Bass Island has been called the "Keywest of the Midwest" before. Cedar Point of course is also a huge draw on the Western Basin. The Central Basin, which Cleveland sits on, starts just beyond Sandusky. Lake Erie is really three lakes in one- Western Basin which is shallow and warm (45 feet deep). Central Basin which is deeper and colder (75 feet deep) and eastern basin which is much deeper and colder (200 feet deep). The average depths of the basins are 30 feet for the Western, 60 feet for the Central, and 120 feet for the Eastern. The reason for this is that the limestone and dolomite bed of the western part of the lake was much harder for the glaciers to scour. The eastern part has a shale and sandstone bed so the glaciers carved the lake much deeper there.

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From the 7/9/05 Toledo Blade:

 

 

MIDDLE BASS

State seeks approval to expand island park

 

By the 2009 tourist season, Middle Bass Island State Park could feature 360 boat slips, a boat launch ramp, sand beach, and an expanded campground, state officials said.

 

The Ohio Department of Natural Resources took the first step yesterday when it filed permit applications with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency.

 

Those permits are required by federal law and must be issued before the other work can begin at the 124-acre Middle Bass site, which the state bought in 2001 for $6.75 million from Mantey-Mon Ami-Lonz Wineries Corp.

 

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From the 7/25/05 Toledo Blade:

 

 

PHOTO: Ohio Department of Natural Resources official Jane Beathard checks out the shoreline of Middle Bass Island State Park. Tight state budgets have held back development of the park. This spring ODNR began offering tent camping at 21 sites equipped with fire rings, charcoal grills, and picnic tables. ( THE BLADE/JEREMY WADSWORTH )

 

State has big ideas for Middle Bass Island

An $11.4 million plan envisions marina and campsite upgrades

By STEVE MURPHY

BLADE STAFF WRITER

 

MIDDLE BASS ISLAND - In the five years since the Ohio Department of Natural Resources bought 124 acres and the former Lonz Winery on Middle Bass Island, progress toward developing a state park has been slow.

 

The winery, a landmark that dominates the island's south shoreline, has remained empty and unused since a terrace collapsed in July, 2000, killing one person and injuring 75. The park has no beach, no cabins for rent, and no sources of potable water.

 

A series of tight state budgets have limited planners to modest improvements. ODNR installed a 50-slip marina in 2001 and added electrical hookups to about half the docks a year later.

 

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From the 7/29/05 PD:

 

Ottawa tribal leaders visit islands as returning exiles, not tourists

Friday, July 29, 2005

Austin Arceo

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

North Bass Island - Larry Angelo, an Ottawa Indian, was smoking as he crossed Lake Erie with a blessing in his pocket - another cigarette.  Angelo, second chief and historian of the Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma, came to this island in western Lake Erie searching for remnants of a rich Ottawa history in Ohio.

 

He was accompanied by two other tribal officials after the Ottawas filed suit in U.S. District Court in Toledo last month, seeking fishing and hunting rights in Ohio and Lake Erie.  Their attorney, Richard Rogovin, said the Ottawas plan to file another suit this year for the island's northernmost 300 acres, which they say belong to them.  Their claim is disputed by some historians.

 

On June 30, Angelo led Charles A. Todd, chief of the Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma, and Bert Kleidon, the tribe's secretary-treasurer, in prayer on the island.  Then he tore open a cigarette and tossed tobacco in four directions in a traditional Ottawa blessing.

 

MORE: http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1122629415108980.xml&coll=2

 

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From the 8/1/05 Toledo Blade:

 

 

MIDDLE BASS ISLAND

Marina work may leave islanders high and dry

By STEVE MURPHY

BLADE STAFF WRITER

 

MIDDLE BASS ISLAND - Ohio's plans to expand the state park marina on Middle Bass Island have some islanders concerned they might lose their dock space.

 

First, to make room for the bigger facility, the state is buying a private marina where many islanders and seasonal residents dock their boats.

 

Second, the expansion project calls for the state's marina to be closed from fall, 2007, to spring, 2009, while it's enlarged from 50 slips to at least 360.

 

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From the 8/25/05 Toledo Blade:

 

Petro urges U.S. court to dismiss tribe's suit seeking fishing rights

BLADE COLUMBUS BUREAU

 

COLUMBUS - Ohio Attorney General Jim Petro yesterday asked the U.S. District Court in Toledo to throw out the Oklahoma-based Ottawa Tribe's claim to unrestricted hunting and fishing rights off North Bass Island in Lake Erie.

 

The motion for dismissal argues that the tribe's lawsuit improperly hinges its claim on treaties ratified by the United States in 1805.  "The only reference in those treaties that dealt with hunting and fishing rights dealt with rights south of what is now Akron in Summit County," Mr. Petro said.

 

The tribe sued at the end of June in hopes of establishing a commercial fishing operation on the island.  Later this year, it plans a second suit claiming outright ownership of 300 acres on the northern portion of the island, which the tribe claims was part of Canada when Native American tribes surrendered their land to the United States under the Treaty of Fort Industry.

 

The undeveloped land was purchased by the state from Paramount Distillers two years ago for $17.4 million.

 

MORE: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050825/NEWS24/508250390

 

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From the 9/27/05 Toledo Blade:

 

 

Port Clinton marina plan gets $1.25M

 

PORT CLINTON - Port Clinton's plans for a large municipal marina got a boost yesterday when the Ohio Controlling Board approved a $1.25 million grant toward construction of a breakwall needed to protect the proposed facility from Lake Erie storms.

 

The grant was among more than $3 million in funding released for projects that will improve recreational boating access, according to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources.

 

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050927/NEWS17/509270390/-1/NEWS

 

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A public meeting with the EPA will take place October 11 at the Middle Bass Island town hall.  I would ecpect more news on the marina shortly thereafter.

 

Here's the press release which describes the environmental impacts and their mitigation.  It also has details on the meeting:

http://www.epa.state.oh.us/pic/nr/2005/september/MiddleBassIsland.html

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From the 10/12/05 Toledo Blade:

 

 

PHOTO: The Ohio Department of Natural Resources would like to expand its marina on Middle Bass Island from 50 to 360 slips. ( THE BLADE )

 

Marina expansion debated at hearing

Plan would affect island's wetlands

By STEVE MURPHY

BLADE STAFF WRITER

 

MIDDLE BASS ISLAND, Ohio - Boaters, environmentalists, and residents of Middle Bass Island debated yesterday during a hearing on water quality impacts conducted by the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency whether the state should expand a public marina on the island.

 

As part of a $11.4 million plan to improve recreational offerings on the island, the Ohio Department of Natural Resources has proposed enlarging its marina from 50 to 360 slips. That would disturb or destroy 4.25 acres of wetlands, mostly on a peninsula built from material dredged when the original harbor was built in the early 1960s.

 

ODNR, which bought 124 acres on the island in 2000 for a state park, applied in July for water quality permits from Ohio EPA and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for the project, which it plans to complete by the summer of 2009.

 

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From the 10/19/05 PD:

 

 

Environmentalists object to state plan for Middle Bass Island park, marina

Wednesday, October 19, 2005

Molly Kavanaugh

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

Middle Bass Island -- Two environmental groups oppose the state's proposed state park and 360-slip marina, arguing that the project will destroy high-quality wetlands and disrupt the threatened Lake Erie water snake.

 

"We are disappointed that a state agency normally charged with protecting natural resources is actively seeking to destroy them," said Jerry Tinianow, Audubon Ohio's executive director. Ohio's Sierra Club also opposes the project.

 

In 2000, the Ohio Department of Natural Resources purchased the property, which includes the old Lonz Winery and a small marina. The plans were to turn it into a first-class marina and lakefront park with a campground and cottages.

 

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From the 11/27/05 Toledo Blade:

 

MAP: Border dispute

 

BATTLE FOR NORTH BASS ISLAND

Tribe's land claim centers on treaties from early 1800s

By JIM PROVANCE

BLADE COLUMBUS BUREAU

 

COLUMBUS - Arcane language in two treaties between a young United States of America and Native American tribes is being used by the Ottawa Tribe to lay claim to North Bass Island in Lake Erie.  Geographic points referenced in the 1805 and 1807 treaties have prompted a Kent State University geography professor to plot what she believes was the U.S.-Canadian border through Lake Erie in the early 1800s.

 

Armed with this map, Oklahoma's Ottawa Tribe, which originally planned to file a federal lawsuit in January laying claim to the northern half of North Bass Island, now wants the entire 677-acre island, both public and private lands.  It also wants the $17.4 million Ohio paid Paramount Distillers two years ago to buy 87 percent of the island with the intention of largely protecting it from development.

 

If the suit is successful, Dick Rogavin, Columbus attorney for the tribe, said the scenic island could become home to a fishing village, walleye fish hatchery, marinas, a fish-processing and freezer plant, hotels with indoor pools, condominiums and parking, tax-free tobacco and beverage shops, and an expanded air strip.

 

MORE: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051127/NEWS17/511270329/-1/NEWS

 

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From the 12/15/05 Toledo Blade:

 

 

Sandusky getting $2.7M grant for lakeside complex

 

SANDUSKY - The city of Sandusky will receive more than $2.7 million from a state brownfield redevelopment fund to help buy and convert a lakefront storage dock into a marina, a condominium complex, and a commercial development, the Ohio Department of Development announced yesterday.

 

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051215/NEWS17/512150394/-1/NEWS

 

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From the AP, 11/28/05:

 

Indian tribe lays claim to 677-acre island

Not covered by treaties that passed land to U.S., it says

By the Associated Press

 

COLUMBUS | An Indian tribe that has been fighting for fishing rights on a northern Ohio island now wants ownership of the 677 acres.  Based on a new interpretation of two treaties from the early 1800s, the Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma claims that it should have the entire North Bass Island in Lake Erie.

 

Ute Dymon, a cartographer at Kent State University, constructed a new map based on his readings of two treaties from 1805 and 1807 and said they show that the entire island was on the British side of the U.S.-Canadian border.  That means the island was not subject to treaties with the United States when the tribe relinquished its ownership rights, according to the tribe.

 

Other cartographers believe that the international border at the time ran through the middle of North Bass Island.  Based on that belief, the Ottawa Tribe had planned to sue the state for claim to the northern part of the land only.  Now, based on Dymon's findings, the tribe plans to seek control of the entire island.

 

MORE: http://www.daytondailynews.com/localnews/content/localnews/daily/1128ohtribe.html

 

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But this is the problem with Sandusky; they have the nicest, trendiest, most thought-provoking ideas, BUT they never come to fruition.  I lived in Sandusky for about 12 years as a child and have lived in Erie County my whole life; and I have seen and heard of countless good ideas come and fade into the distance.  But, it's good that that city's leaders are thinking progressively (it's just that neighboring Perkins Township steals most of the business away, even without a lakeshore).  These indoor water parks would be very impressive if they were on the lake, but alas, one is next to Meijer's, Steak 'n Shake, and a mall parking lot.  While another is in a wide open, treeless, dull farm field; and another slated to open will be just across the street with a similar setting.  None of these 3 waterparks are in the city of Sandusky. Cedar Point's waterpark is, and it is on the lake (I like that).

 

But personally, I could care less about Sandusky and that part of Erie County (because that area is what the county government ALWAYS focuses its attention on).  Other areas, like where my parents live, Vermilion, Milan, Berlin Heights, etc. often get snubbed.

 

 

Oh well, at least we went to Kerry in the 2004 election!  :-D We're doing something right!

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TC Joe, 

 

I disagree that the county government focuses on Sandusky at the expense of the rest of the county.  I grew up in Sandusky, and due to population loss in the central city (Sandusky is the Cleveland of Erie County), the county government has been increasingly taken over by suburban/rural interests.  While it is still the county seat, Sandusky now makes up less than a third of overall county population.  The current waterfront development and other impressive happenings in the downtown are the product of Mike Will, the ambitious City Manager who has nothing to do with the County gov.

 

I think that the County should focus on its waterfronts (Vermilion, Huron, Sandusky)  and historic downtowns (mainly in Sandusky, Milan and Vermilion), as they are easily its most important assets.  The Sandusky Bay Area has created a one-stop shopping vacation type area, ala Orlando, instead of leveraging its quaint downtowns, waterfronts, perch and Walleye fishing, Cedar Point, and the islands in a way that would allow it to maximize its potential.  People should be staying all summer, not just for the weekend.  Don't get me wrong, there is a strong real estate market for direct lakefront property, but  Downtown Sandusky should be the Petoskey or Cape of the NorthCoast.  It's got an abundance of historic homes just begging to be turned into summer cottages, and all are within walking distance, if not directly on the waterfront (which has breathtaking views of Cedar Point skyline and across the Bay). All this within a two hour drive of Cleveland (1 hour), Columbus (2 hours), Detroit (2 1/2 hours), and Toledo (1 hour).

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^But I'm with you on voting for Kerry!  We are a swing county, and I've always voted absentee in Erie County, but now that I'm back in Ohio, I've begun voting in Cleveland.

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You can still tell what area is most favored by the county government, though (Sandusky/Perkins/Huron/Margeretta)  and that area has most of the population.

 

 

Erie County spent millions in infrastructure and tax abatements, etc. for Kalahari; benefitting Perkins

 

Erie County decided to run water lines along all county and township roads, with Perkins/Huron/Margeretta township residents having to pay a lower rate

 

The county's involvement with Quarry business park in Margeretta

 

 

And I understand that this is the most populous part of Erie County (the northwest portion); and so development will occur at a much faster pace there.  I guess I'm just the typical rural resident ranting on about "those city slickers" LOL :)  But honestly, in my little part of Erie County, we are lucky to get the roads plowed! :)

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What part of the county are you from?-I grew up off of Perkins Ave in Sandusky, but my parents moved to Berlin Heights when I was 16 (my mom got transferred to Cleveland, my dad worked at Union Chain on the western side of Sandusky), and I graduated from Edison in '97. 

 

Kalahari is technically in Huron Twp, not Perkins Twp, and is closer to Milan than it is to Sandusky proper. I would argue that people from all over the county work there, and that it is in the south/central part of the county, not the northwest. 

 

It's interesting that you lump Sandusky together with Perkins, Huron and Margaretta/Castalia.  Most people I know in Sandusky blame those places for their problems, and don't see development in those areas as a good thing (People in Sandusky bitch about the 250 corridor in Perkins all the time, it drains their tax base, kills the downtown, etcetera). 

 

I'm sorry about the roads at your parents' place, but not surprised!  The services in Berlin Heights were pretty poor as well.  I think that rural communities in otherwise populated counties get hosed all the time, they just don't have enough votes.  It costs a lot of money to extend infrastructure that far out, and without a lot of political clout, counties are hesitant to make that kind of investment. 

 

I'm glad to have a fellow Erie County area person on the board!

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From the 1/25/06 Port Clinton News Herald:

 

 

Hilton resort coming to town

By KRISTINA SMITH

Staff writer

 

CATAWBA ISLAND — The owners of Mon Ami Restaurant and Historic Winery plan to open a posh, multi-million dollar Hilton resort and conference center in May 2007 next to the winery, developers said.

 

The 2.8-acre resort will also create 100 year-round jobs for Ottawa County, said Jenine M. Porter, director of R.F. Porter and Associates Inc., a local firm working with Hilton Hotels Corp. and winery owner Heiberg Inc. of Findlay.

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I'd like to see beachfront hotels in that area.  I think that'd be a nice getaway for Ohioans (and I'm not talking about a Ramada near Cedar Point).

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