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According to the British newspaper The Telegraph

In the Beginning....Adam Walked With Dinosaurs

 

he centrepiece of the museum is a series of huge model dinosaurs, built by the former head of design at Universal Studios, which are portrayed as existing alongside man, contrary to received scientific opinion that they lived millions of years apart.

 

Other exhibits include images of Adam and Eve, a model of Noah's Ark and a planetarium demonstrating how God made the Earth in six days.

 

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Looks like a great new tourist attraction for the Tri-State.

 

 

 

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I live in Mississippi now, and I don't think they would even do something bible belty.

I guess Ohio is now the heart of the bible belt    :|

 

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It's in Kentucky, near the airport.


"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

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Aside from the theology, I'm thinking if the exhbits and FX are professional enough this could be a good tourist attraction for the region.

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Let me clarify my thoughts....I am not sure about this mainly because of the location.  While the museum itself is not something I care to visit for numerous reasons, I know there are many people in the country that will find it a great attraction.  I just think it should be built closer to the city as an attraction.  I hate seeing attractions spread out all over the place.

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^I truly hope I don't offend anyone by saying this but affluent modern-day evangelical Christians aren't prone to demonstrate sensible urban planning. When's the last time you saw a 'mega-church' built in a city core atop a well-designed parking garage near a transit-friendly area?

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^I truly hope I don't offend anyone by saying this but affluent modern-day evangelical Christians aren't prone to demonstrate sensible urban planning. When's the last time you saw a 'mega-church' built in a city core atop a well-designed parking garage near a transit-friendly area?

 

I would think one large reason for the absence of urban mega-churches is that there is no lack of churches in most urban areas.  Look at most urban areas, and there are churches everywhere, of every flavor.  CincinnatiHome.org's "Faith Finder" gives some actual numbers: search Avondale, it returns 33 churches; 34 in Walnut Hills; 27 in Price Hill; 24 in OTR; 22 in Madisonville; 15 in Evanston; 10 in Hyde Park; 16 in Northside...throw in a lack of urban growth, and there's simply no crying need for pew space on any given Sunday.

 

I played organ for Northside United Methodist church a few years back, up until they closed down, because a dozen people in the congregation was a big group.  For a while they rented out the Chase Nazarene's church for Sunday services, and eventually fizzled.  I've also subbed a few times in Avondale at the Episcopal church there, and again, they're lucky to get 15 people in on a Sunday.

 

However, that's not a universal truth - there are churches that are growing, as people generally move away from the older denominations (Methodist, Episcopal) and into the newer ones (non-denominational, Baptist, etc.) - seems to me like the churches that served the old neighborhoods of blue collar white folks in places like Northside and Avondale don't appeal as much to today's residents - it's just a different tradition.

 

More to the point, there are actually some big-ass churches going up in the city.  In Oakley, in the old HQ location at Ridge and Madison, there's the humongous Crossroads Community Church.  I don't know what their attendance is, but it's a huge space, and they have four weekend services.  That place is no more than three or four years old.

 

Also, in Bond Hill right near Swifton Commons is becoming a mini-Churchville - I don't know how many there are now, but the African Methodist Episcopals were doing something there, there's that Tryed Stone Baptist Church, and I think other development too.

 

The fact is, you build churches where there's a need, and at this point in history, that happens to be in the suburbs...

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Today's churches are among the ugliest of all buildings.  Whereas the construction of a church was once a community event, with members of the congregation donating their time and sweat, today they are built by the same men who build chain restaurants and with the same materials.  Recently I looked at a newly published book on the history of the Archdoicese of Cincinnati, which had photos of many of the area churches.  I would argue that the mediocrity of post-Vatican II churches is a significant part of the Catholic Church's present self-destruction.   

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Churches reflect the theology, and post-Vatican II, the theology has pushed the church way over to a more Protestant model, at least in the US.  The thick tradition is anathema - the whole experience, the smells and bells and the latin and ornament and even the sacrament itself are hidden away - they build separate chapels to hide the tabernacle in, for [someone's] sake!  I mean, you don't know anymore when you walk into a newer Catholic church if you're supposed to genuflect or not!  Ach...I went to the seminary in Wickliffe for a couple years, and our chapel - the chapel in the Catholic seminary - had been stripped of all ornamentation, all the statues, and everything was painted white.  The major seminary used a nave with no pews in it, just chairs - kneeling during the consecration is out.  The only thing they didn't destroy were the amazing stained glass windows.

 

The whole experience is a cerebral one, and anything that gets in the way of that is considered superstition.  "Community" is the most important concern - so we get everyone together, we rip up the altar rail (it separates the priest from the community, you see), we rip up the pews, put the sanctuary in the middle on one side, and circle it with chairs.  Pull out the high altar and tabernacle, stuff Jesus off in some back room, and now that we're liturgically correct, we wait for the folks to see our brilliance!  Well, let's see, you just destroyed the cultural representations that have tied these families to your "Catholic Community" and replaced it with your rhetorical brilliance and being able to see Mrs. Smith across the way.  Meanwhile, get out your Glory and Praise (v. 3) and let's sing a song about being together that was written 25 years ago.  Aargh...

 

By the way, I don't have any problem with a cerebral approach - Protestant churches do that extremely well, and perhaps that fits the American psyche better.  But Catholics are Catholic for a reason - if you want to be a Protestant, just be a Protestant, that's cool - don't go in and rip up grandma's church to do it.  It's like the 1960's and 1970's or urban design is just hitting the church, and it's just so amazingly sad...

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I noticed a transmitter in one of those pictures. Is that part of their facility? If so, I wonder what science they're going to beam out to their followers?

 

And why did they choose Greater Cincinnati? I apologize if this has already been asked/answered but I didn't see it in the other messages, if it has.

 

KJP


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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...I personally love the symbolism of the ginormous flat roof...flat like the earth is flat...

That's a landing space for the ships that will carry away the 144,000 saved before the great final battle of Armageddon.

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And why did they choose Greater Cincinnati? I apologize if this has already been asked/answered but I didn't see it in the other messages, if it has.

 

According to their website it's due to geography alone:

 

Why did you choose the Cincinnati area?

 

About 2/3 of America’s population can drive to Cincinnati in one day! In addition to those 165 million Americans, millions of Canadians in the provinces of Ontario and Quebec can also drive here in one day. Most convenient, the museum will be close to I-75, the busiest north/south interstate in America.

 

 

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There are certain standards to be met in this region, you know...

 

If it doesn't have a giant Jesus crawling out of it, I'm not interested!

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An article about it in the 2/4/05 Cincinnati Post:

 

 

Creation museum gets a boost even from negative news

By Peggy Kreimer

Post staff reporter

 

It doesn't matter what you say; just spell my name right.

 

That Hollywood maxim is getting a religious twist as developers of the Creation Museum in Northern Kentucky find themselves featured more and more in national and international media reports -- many of which mock the museum's contention that the Biblical version of creation is scientifically, as well as theologically, correct.

 

The latest mention of Answers in Genesis' Creation Museum project in Petersburg, Ky., came from nationally syndicated columnist Maureen Dowd this week. In a column titled "Inherit the Windbags" on the opinion page of Thursday's New York Times, she derided the Creation Museum and President George Bush's actions as signs America is regressing.

 

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http://www.cincypost.com/2005/02/04/creat020405.html

 

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I'm personally acquainted with a sculptor who's working on the diaramas for the museum. Personally, I think she's embarrassed about it.  But how much steady work can there be for a sculptor in this town?

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Thank God it's in Kentucky! Maybe most geography challenged Americans will not associate it with Cincinnati. (What a sense of accomplishment being able to spell that word! Cincy is a copout, Nati is just plain gross...)

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Oh Jesus...


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Keeping an eye out for them...from the 5/5/05 Cincinnati Post:

 

 

Creationism facility here on a mission

Post staff report

 

Answers in Genesis, the 11-year-old nonprofit Christian ministry to educate people about creationism, moved its world headquarters to its 95,000 square-foot complex in Petersburg, Ky., in 2004. It plans to open a 55,000-square-foot museum within the complex in the fall of 2007.

 

Vice president Mark Looy said the group has no organized push to change the way public schools teach science, but it has no problem with individuals trying to shape their children's education.

 

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http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050504/NEWS01/505040342/1010/RSS01

 

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"He said the exhibits will include an exploration of modern scientific methods."

 

I have to wonder if that means they are going to try to show why science is wrong and doesn't work.

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Actually, I kind of want to see this Tower of Babel thingy, and of course, the "End Days" diarama.  That's gotta be interesting.

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We do have the right to question their intelligence and to make all the snide comments we want, however.  Ain't this a great country!

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