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Ugh, I hate all. those. highways. Other than that Cleveland always looks fantastic from those aerial shots!

 

All the stuff on the very botton left to middle is railroad tracks... Cleveland has less highway near downtown then Cincy and Columbus I know that. There is always traffic build ups when there is more then one ballgame in town, etc... This is my favorite view though!

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Ugh, I hate all. those. highways. Other than that Cleveland always looks fantastic from those aerial shots!

 

All the stuff on the very botton left to middle is railroad tracks... Cleveland has less highway near downtown then Cincy and Columbus I know that. There is always traffic build ups when there is more then one ballgame in town, etc... This is my favorite view though!

 

Sexy. I still wish they'd just blow that stuff up and expand with some housing, office buildings or even a giant park. The highway/railroad mass is just not attractive.

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Ugh, I hate all. those. highways. Other than that Cleveland always looks fantastic from those aerial shots!

 

All the stuff on the very botton left to middle is railroad tracks... Cleveland has less highway near downtown then Cincy and Columbus I know that. There is always traffic build ups when there is more then one ballgame in town, etc... This is my favorite view though!

 

Actually, Cleveland probably has more highways than Cincinnati (with the Shoreway, I-90/71, I-77, and I-490).


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Ugh, I hate all. those. highways. Other than that Cleveland always looks fantastic from those aerial shots!

 

All the stuff on the very botton left to middle is railroad tracks... Cleveland has less highway near downtown then Cincy and Columbus I know that. There is always traffic build ups when there is more then one ballgame in town, etc... This is my favorite view though!

 

Actually, Cleveland probably has more highways than Cincinnati (with the Shoreway, I-90/71, I-77, and I-490).

 

Cincinnati's certainly look pretty awful, though - and with expanded 2nd street and 3rd street to either side of Fort Washington Way, it makes that entire swath look awful from above.

 

Although when you're on the surface level, they've done a really good job of connecting the CBD to the riverfront - the sidewalks are very large on both sides, FWW is recessed below, many, many crossings, etc...you don't feel nearly as cut off as you do from the Charles River in Boston or something.  And once they cap the highway - woo hoo!

 

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See the Innerbelt thread for some of my maps on how to relocate the Spaghetti Junction of I-90/I-77/Ontario/East 9th and to cover the combined Rapid Transit lines through the former Norfolk Southern intermodal yard.

 

It sickens me every time I see that massive piece of landscape next to downtown not devoted to the kinds of uses that make downtowns truly wonderful places.


"Most of us have been conditioned to regard military combat as exciting and glamorous -- an opportunity for men to prove their competence and courage. Since armies are legal, we feel that war is acceptable; in general, nobody feels that that war is criminal or that accepting it is a criminal attitude. In fact, we have been brainwashed. War is neither glamorous nor attractive. It is monstrous. Its very nature is one of tragedy and suffering" --Dalai Lama

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the spaghetti junction south of downtown cleveland and those east and west of downtown cinci are a real c*ckblock.

 

whatcha gonna do tho? ugh.

 

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See the Innerbelt thread for some of my maps on how to relocate the Spaghetti Junction of I-90/I-77/Ontario/East 9th and to cover the combined Rapid Transit lines through the former Norfolk Southern intermodal yard.

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3697  (thread)

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http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3697.msg67216#msg67216

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3697.msg98704#msg98704

 

Below in red are the areas in the photo in question -- highways and ramps -- and this shot did not even catch a good portion of the the ramps to the northeast.  This is a swath of land the size pretty much the size of the WHD that IMO should be just as real an opportunity for large scale development as Stark's Pest.

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It continues to shock me how picturesque and how underutilized the banks of the river remain. I know CMHA is working on their innovative riverfront park plan, but after 210 years, a riverfront park is still innovative? Are we nuts? We should be swamped with riverfront parks, peppered with mixed use developments! And how about a nice houseboat-based development? http://www.houseboatmagazine.com/?pageID=3. Sorry, I get a little caught up.

 

 

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Here's the image I pushed most recently. I still think it's workable and not too late to pursue (especially with the federal Highway Trust Fund account balance about to circle the drain)...

 

innerbeltremovalmidprojectrrs.jpg


"Most of us have been conditioned to regard military combat as exciting and glamorous -- an opportunity for men to prove their competence and courage. Since armies are legal, we feel that war is acceptable; in general, nobody feels that that war is criminal or that accepting it is a criminal attitude. In fact, we have been brainwashed. War is neither glamorous nor attractive. It is monstrous. Its very nature is one of tragedy and suffering" --Dalai Lama

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