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^If only the City hadn't forced the Third Hand Bike Co-Op to move.  Wait, what's that?  THBC moved on their own because they got a great deal on purchasing a building in Milo-Grogan.  Well, still - they should have cleared this with Minneapolisite first. :roll:

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The Milo Arts Center in the 118-year-old former school at 617 E. 3rd Avenue seems like an interesting place.  But it also seems to be forever on the brink of disaster.  Whether it be bankruptcy, paying federal taxes or building code issues.  The bankruptcy and federal tax issues were reported a few years ago in this thread.  Milo's current crisis has to do with building code violations. 

 

Below is a recap from earlier this week about the Milo Arts Center's building code issues from NBC4 News and the Columbus Dispatch - as well as the latest update from today's Columbus Dispatch:

 

NBC4 VIDEO: Arts Complex Faces Deadline To Fix Issues

 

DISPATCH: Milo Arts Center facing Thursday fix-it deadline

 

DISPATCH: Milo Arts Center residents may stay as repairs progress

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Looks like the Milo Arts Center got a reprieve from City Code Enforcement based on work being done to the building.  But they didn't get one from the Dispatch.  Below is link to the article that was on the front page of today's paper.  The article chronicles the lenghty history of fire-code violations going back to the 1990's.

 

Columbus Dispatch: Multiple building fire-code violations, coupled with lax follow-up by the city, might have put those using Milo Arts center in danger

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Columbus Underground interviewed the president of Wagenbrenner Development to talk about the urban infill development projects the company is currently working on.  In addition to some high-visibility projects like the Hubbard mixed-use project in the Short North and Jeffrey Park in Italian Village, Wagenbrenner is working on some neighborhood transforming projects in Weinland Park and Harrison West. 

 

Another project in the Wagenbrenner portfolio is the former Timken manufacturing site in the Milo-Grogan neighborhood.  The discussion about the future of the Timken site is under the heading "The Former Timken Site" at the article Wagenbrenner Continues Urban Infill Development in 2013 at Columbus Underground.

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The only thing that will renew serious investment in Milo-Grogan and other E 5th neighborhoods is an airport-Downtown light rail line that has stations Milo-Grogan, Shepard or Devon Triangle and Krumm Park. These neighborhoods are largely residential and smaller, but with improvements and proper zoning could have a few destinations in each There would certainly be space for TOD to repopulate the neighborhoods. It's too bad it sounds like Wagenbrenner is looking to add more sprawl to an already sprawled out stretch of E 5th, which made the comment about following the trend of people moving back to urban centers strange. Columbus needs to get more stringent overlays on all major commercial streets otherwise the suburban Kroger in Weinland Park scenario will repeat itself ad nauseum.

 

Outside of light rail the only thing to raise standards for development would be turning the few existing commercial buildings into places worth the trek to Milo-Grogan. Heck, why not make a new miniature brewery district on the Timken site? There would obviously be lots of people willing to go to the neighborhood for that. I can't say I'd be surprised if in a couple years down the road that Liz Lessner buys D #1 Happy Family Bar and then opens up a new one that boasts it uses local ingredients from Arena Produce just across the street.

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The only thing that will renew serious investment in Milo-Grogan and other E 5th neighborhoods is an airport-Downtown light rail line that has stations Milo-Grogan, Shepard or Devon Triangle and Krumm Park. These neighborhoods are largely residential and smaller, but with improvements and proper zoning could have a few destinations in each There would certainly be space for TOD to repopulate the neighborhoods. It's too bad it sounds like Wagenbrenner is looking to add more sprawl to an already sprawled out stretch of E 5th, which made the comment about following the trend of people moving back to urban centers strange. Columbus needs to get more stringent overlays on all major commercial streets otherwise the suburban Kroger in Weinland Park scenario will repeat itself ad nauseum.

 

Outside of light rail the only thing to raise standards for development would be turning the few existing commercial buildings into places worth the trek to Milo-Grogan. Heck, why not make a new miniature brewery district on the Timken site? There would obviously be lots of people willing to go to the neighborhood for that. I can't say I'd be surprised if in a couple years down the road that Liz Lessner buys D #1 Happy Family Bar and then opens up a new one that boasts it uses local ingredients from Arena Produce just across the street.

 

There's reality, and then there's your opinion.  I swear, you nitpick more with Columbus than people on City-Data complain about streetcars.

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Wagenbrenner also has some infomation about the 31-acre former Timken site in Milo-Grogan at their company website: http://wagdev.com/projects/retail/timken.aspx

 

It also contains this aerial of the Timken site:

 

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There hasn't been much news about WagDev's Timken site (except for a serious bid from Stone Brewing in 2014 - but that got discussed over in the Columbus: General Business thread).  However, there's now a Dispatch headline about the Timken site previewing Mayor Coleman's State of the City address tonight (see next post):

 

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Coleman closing in on tenant for Timken site

By Lucas Sullivan, The Columbus Dispatch

Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 4:04 AM

 

In what he says will be his final State of the City address, Mayor Michael B. Coleman plans to announce something he has wanted to happen for four terms in office: The city has a developer for the former Timken site.  Rogue Fitness, a business that started in William Henniger’s garage in 2007, has signed on to build its manufacturing headquarters and consolidate business activities near the intersection of Cleveland and E. 5th avenues.  Coleman is to make the announcement at his 16th State of the City address at 6 tonight at the Palace Theatre.

 

Coleman said that Rogue, which makes equipment for CrossFit training, plans to build a 500,000-square-foot manufacturing facility and later a fitness center and showroom.  Along with it will come about 350 jobs and plans to add 100 more.  “Our hope is this will spur the development in the Milo-Grogan neighborhood,” Coleman said yesterday. “We are very excited about this, and we have been working really hard since the beginning of my administration to redevelop the Timken site.”

 

Timken, based in Canton, closed its Columbus bearings plant in 2001, leaving behind a 31-acre parcel that can be seen from I-71.  Elected officials have tried relentlessly to marry the lot with a developer, most recently with Stone Brewing, which wanted to expand its West Coast brewery east of the Mississippi River.

 

Henniger said last night that he and the city are working out the final details of the development deal.  “Once we pass this final milestone, I hope to be up and running in a year or year and a half,” he said.  “We've always wanted to be close to the city and have that old-school feel, so we're excited about this.”  Henniger currently operates his business on Steelwood Road, near Kenny and Kinnear roads on the Northwest Side.  He said all operations there will move to the Timken site.

 

MORE: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/02/19/mayor-closing-in-on-timken-tenant.html

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CU has a little more info on the proposed Rogue Fitness manufacturing plans for the Timken site at http://www.columbusunderground.com/rogue-fitness-plans-manufacturing-relocation-to-former-timken-site:

 

"The Rogue facility is expected to take up approximately 23 of the 30 acres of the site, situated at the northwest corner of the property.  This would leave room for multiple “outparcel” buildings along Fifth Avenue for additional tenants. ... Wagenbrenner has tapped Elford Development for assistance with the design and construction of the new facility, and renderings are expected in the near future."

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Milo-Grogan is getting another development located next to the previous announced Rogue Fitness plans for the Timken property.  Middle West Spirits is expanding their Short North microdistillery operation into a warehouse space immediately south of the Rogue/Timken site:

 

Middle West Spirits opening warehouse on Timken site that missed out on Stone Brewing project

By Dan Eaton, Staff reporter - Columbus Business First

April 14, 2015, 4:24pm EDT

 

The old Timken Co. site that missed out on landing a big brewery development is getting plenty of bourbon, whiskey and vodka.  Middle West Spirits LLC Tuesday announced plans to open a 23,000-square-foot warehouse on the southern edge of the former industrial site.

 

It’s the first of several new investments for the Columbus-based microdistillery, including a makeover of its Short North space. ... The expansion has been in the works for awhile as the makers of the Oyo brand hunted for the right match of size, cost and site.  Its 10,000-square-foot Short North space, 1230 Courtland Ave., is maxed out.

 

Co-founder Brady Konya said they found it in the right fit in the Milo Grogan area, which is one mile from the distillery, adjacent to the $35 million Rogue Fitness project announced earlier this year.

 

MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2015/04/14/middle-west-spirits-opening-warehouse-on-timken.html

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More about the incentive deal going to City Council for Rogue Fitness to redevelop the former Timken site:

 

Fitness equipment provider up for city incentives for $36M project

By Brian R. Ball, Columbus Business First

June 1, 2015, 2:48pm EDT

 

Columbus City Council will get its first look tonight at an incentive deal for the Rogue Fitness project announced in mid-February.  Mayor Michael Coleman’s office put out an announcement this afternoon revealing the city has offered a six-year, 60-percent Job Creation Tax Credit and 10-year, 75-percent enterprise zone tax abatement in support of the $36 million project.

 

The fitness equipment provider plans to consolidate and expand its administrative, manufacturing and distribution operations into a 600,000-square-foot facility on 30 acres of the former Timken Co. property at 1047 Cleveland Avenue near East Fifth Avenue.  (Rogue has pledged to create 90 new full-time jobs and to relocate 337 existing jobs from their current 1080 Steelwood Road location in Columbus.)

 

MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2015/06/01/fitness-equipment-provider-up-for-city-incentives.html

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On June 8, the Columbus City Council approved the above-listed incentive deal for Rogue Fitness to build a $36.5 million, 600,000-square-foot manufacturing center on the former Timken site at Cleveland and E. Fifth avenues.

 

This seems like a great project for the struggling Milo-Grogan area and it naturally has garnered wide neighborhood support.  But since some journalists feel like they aren't doing their job if they don't "tell both sides of the story", Mark Ferenchik of the Dispatch found a neighborhood man that opposes the Rogue Fitness project.  Rick Mann in fact.

 

If you don't remember who Rick Mann is, he's the owner of the Milo Arts Center located about a block east of the former Timken site.  Rick Mann has had on-going battles with the City since 2000 over code enforcement violations at his Milo Arts Center.  So, Mann isn't exactly an unbiased source.  One might even call him "disgruntled".  And that was the only person Ferenchik found to speak against the Rogue Fitness project.  Many other neighbors spoke in favor of the project.  So, FWIW, here's the article: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/06/22/not-every-neighbor-sold-on-new-plant.html

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Some news for the Milo-Grogan area that's not Rouge Fitness or Middle West Spirits related.  OSU's Star House, which is a 24/7 drop-in center for homeless youth between the ages of 14-24, has moved from a rehabbed house on N. Fourth Street into a larger commercial building a few blocks east in Milo-Grogan.  First, a Business First report that has a 13-image slideshow of the new facility at its link below:

 


OSU Star House center for homeless youth's $2M new home

By Laura Newpoff, Assistant Managing Editor-Digital

Columbus Business First - October 2, 2015, 3:05pm EDT

 

An around-the-clock drop-in center for homeless youths is moving out of a run-down house on North Fourth Street into a 14,000-square-foot facility that’s been renovated with a state-of-the art kitchen, a basketball court, computer lab and quiet room.  Terry O’Connell, the former executive vice president of Time Warner Cable, is president of the board of the OSU Star House and has been the chief fundraiser for the $2 million project.

 

Star House, which is part of Ohio State University, helps homeless youth between the ages of 14-24, not only with basic needs like a meal and a place to shower and wash their clothes, but also tries to connect them to housing, employment opportunities, education and mental health and or substance abuse therapy.

 

The building at 1220 Corrugated Way used to be the home of the Middleton Printing Co.  It’s been converted into a new 24/7 drop-in center with amenities that also include a medical room, large laundry area and more rest rooms and shower facilities.  There’s also a recreation room with a basketball court and warehouse space that will be used for a social enterprise operation.  The social enterprise will involve a small prefabrication business providing daily earning opportunities for Star House youth, along with basic living skills and on-the-job training.

 

MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/blog/2015/10/first-look-star-house-center-for-homeless-youths.html

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Milo-Grogan investment interest spurs TIF

By Evan Weese, Staff Reporter - Columbus Business First

December 18, 2015, 6:00am EST

 

Interest from developers in Columbus’ depressed Milo-Grogan neighborhood has the city planning for investment with the creation of a tax-increment financing district.

 

City Council this week approved the mechanism that would divert non-residential property taxes generated by new development to a fund for public parks, streets, utilities and other improvements in the once-thriving industrial center northeast of downtown.

 

MORE: http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/print-edition/2015/12/18/milo-grogan-investment-interest-spurs-tif.html

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Massive Rogue Fitness Facility Starting to Take Shape in Milo-Grogan

By Brent Warren, Columbus Underground

April 23, 2016 - 8:00 am

 

The scale of what is being built at the southwest corner of East Fifth and Cleveland avenues is beginning to sink in, both for neighbors of the site and for the many people who pass through the busy intersection on a daily basis.  Enormous concrete walls show the footprint of what will eventually be a 600,000 square foot building housing the manufacturing, distribution, office and retail operations of Rogue Fitness.

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New renderings of the campus provided by Rogue show a brick building with traditional, factory-style windows built up against Cleveland Avenue.  Rogue also controls about three acres of land along Fifth Avenue that are not a part of the campus currently under construction, but has yet to make any plans for future development on that portion of the site.

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Ashley Felger Smith of Rogue said that distribution out of the new facility could begin as soon as this fall, with a goal of full completion by the second quarter of 2017.  At that time as many as 500 employees could be working at the site.

 

MORE: http://www.columbusunderground.com/rogue-fitness-construction-bw1

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5th Avenue Lumber expects to triple business with new buildings, bigger yard

By Evan Weese, Staff Reporter - Columbus Business First

September 26, 2016, 1:00pm EDT

 

5th Avenue Lumber may be 100 years old, but it’s primed to grow like a newly minted startup.  The lumber supplier’s yard has been expanded and two product-storage buildings have been added to its campus along East Fifth Avenue in the Milo-Grogan neighborhood, laying the groundwork for what executives say could be a tripling of business.

 

Founded in 1916 and acquired by the Strait & Lamp Group in 1986, 5th Avenue Lumber is expanding to meet demand from home improvers and commercial builders that’s bounced back from the depths of the collapse in construction following the 2008 financial crisis.

 

Columbus Business First spoke with Todd Buxton, general manager of 5th Avenue Lumber, and Steven Arnold, president of Strait & Lamp Group, as the lumber supplier puts finishing touches on its expansion in the shadow of the new Rogue Fitness manufacturing complex at East Fifth and Cleveland avenues.

 

FULL Q & A:  http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2016/09/26/5th-avenue-lumber-expects-to-triple-business-with.html

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Rogue Fitness Opens Distribution Portion of New facility in Milo-Grogan

By Hannah Herner, Columbus Underground

October 1, 2016 - 6:39 am

 

Today, Rogue Fitness begins distribution operations in 200,000 square feet of its new 600,000 square foot facility at the corner of East Fifth and Cleveland Avenues.

 

Construction on the facility began in 2015, with the manufacturing portion set to open on November 1, headquarters set to open January 1, and full transition to be completed in March.

 

MORE: http://www.columbusunderground.com/rogue-fitness-opens-distribution-portion-of-new-facility-in-milo-grogan-hh1

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Homeport Building 33 New Homes in Milo-Grogan

 

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Despite some uncertainty surrounding the tax credit program that is funding the project, Homeport is moving ahead with plans to build 33 new single family homes in Milo-Grogan.

 

The homes will be lease-purchase, meaning that qualified residents will be eligible to purchase the homes after a 15-year rental period. To qualify to rent the homes, residents would need to make less than 60 percent of the average median income.

 

More below:

http://www.columbusunderground.com/homeport-building-33-new-homes-in-milo-grogan-bw1


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New Affordable Homes Going up in Milo-Grogan, City-Owned Lots for Sale

 

Affordable housing nonprofit Homeport has broken ground on the first of what will eventually be 33 new homes in Milo-Grogan. The single-family houses are being constructed on scattered lots east of I-71, on either side of East Fifth Avenue.

 

Meanwhile, the City of Columbus has issued a Request for Proposals for 23 city-owned parcels located south of Fifth Avenue and west of the freeway. Those vacant lots – the city has razed a number of deteriorating homes on them over the past several years – range in size from 2,600 to 8,400 square feet.

 

More below:

http://www.columbusunderground.com/new-affordable-homes-going-up-in-milo-grogan-city-owned-lots-for-sale-bw1

 

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Catching up on the massive Rogue Fitness project near Fifth & Cleveland in Milo-Grogan.  Rogue Fitness began construction in 2016 on a 600,000 square-foot building to consolidate their manufacturing, distribution, office and retail operations in Central Ohio.  The most recent construction update for this project was an aerial view from July 2016 at https://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,1773.msg814305.html#msg814305 in this thread. 

 

Below are the most recent Google streetviews for the project, dated August 2016.  The brick facing on the portion of the building closest to Cleveland Avenue has begun to go up in these images:

 

View from Fifth & Cleveland:

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Closer view further south on Cleveland Avenue:

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Close-up view of part of the office and retail portion of the building:

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Another view of the office and retail portion of the building from Cleveland Avenue:

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Since those August 2016 construction photos, Rogue Fitness moved their manufacturing and distribution operations into the new building around January 2017.  Later, they moved their office headquarters into the building around March 2017.  Finally, they opened their retail store at this site later in the summer.

 

Below are some photos of the finished Rogue Fitness complex from https://www.roguefitness.com/about-us?bvstate=pg:3/ct:r#rogue-hq and from https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-retail-store/:

 


First, a couple of aerial views showing the new 600,000 square-foot Rogue Fitness building at Fifth & Cleveland:

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Exterior view of the manufacturing & distribution portion of the building:

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Interior view of the manufacturing & distribution portion of the building:

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Exterior view of the entrance to the office portion of the building:

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Interior view of the entrance lobby to the office portion of the building:

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Exterior view of another part of the office portion of the building:

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Entrance to the retail store - located in the ground floor of another part of the office portion of the building:

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Interior view of the Rogue Fitness retail store within the building:

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So the inevitable development of M-G is actually starting to happen. Hopefully, some of these new residents will take advantage of the Cleveland Ave BRT, or at least walk to and from the SN instead of driving

 

192-Unit Apartment Development Proposed for Milo-Grogan

 

A new development proposed for Milo-Grogran would bring 192 new apartments to the southwest corner of Cleveland and Reynolds avenues. The project, from local developer Avenue Partners, calls for eight three-story buildings, a clubhouse and a pool.

 

Charles Thompkins is the chair of the Milo-Grogan Area Commission, which voted to approve the project at its March meeting. He was born and raised in the neighborhood and has served on commission for 18 years.

 

“I’ve been here when Milo was flourishing, and also when it went down,” he said, adding that this might be the first new apartment development he’s seen in his 50-plus years in the neighborhood.  “To see that growth coming back over here – overall, we think its going to be a good asset to the community and serve as a gateway to the neighborhood as you come across the bridge from downtown.”

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/192-unit-apartment-development-proposed-for-milo-grogan-bw1

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^^ I hope they can densify the area by filling in empty lots among the houses and putting apartment complexes in some of the larger areas and help people on fixed incomes and the elderly stay in their homes. If the city is growing as fast as they say we need the infill-we just don't need mass dislocation. It would be nice to have a neighborhood that is actually a truly mixed income place (and not one that is that way just because it is in transition going "up" or going "down".)

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Cleveland-based Ohio Brewing Company is opening a production facility and taproom in Milo-Grogan.  Ohio Brewing Company is a microbrewery offering nine flagship brews that include a variety of styles.  The new Ohio Brewing Company facility will take over a former warehouse located at 421 E. Second Avenue built in 1930.  This Milo-Grogan property sits on nearly four acres, while the 421 E. Second Avenue building is about 37,000 square feet and still has the signage of its previous tenant, Blue Box Corrugated Inc.

 

According to an article on Ohio.Com, Ohio Brewing Company will partner with the Velio family to open the brewery and taproom.  The Velios have opened a number of other Columbus restaurants, including Michael’s Goody Boy in the Short North and the Jimmy V’s chain throughout Central Ohio:

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/cleveland-based-ohio-brewing-company-opening-production-facility-and-taproom-in-milo-grogan-ls1

 

https://www.ohio.com/akron/pages/beer/ohio-brewing-plans-production-brewery-in-columbus

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^ A little more about the Ohio Brewing Company project planned for 421 E. Second Avenue in Milo-Grogan.  Below is an aerial view showing the 421 E. Second Avenue property and a couple of streetview photos.

 

The 421 E. Second Avenue property is just on the other side of the railroad tracks from Italian Village.  Its also not far from the large Jeffrey Park development to the southwest or the massive Rogue Fitness facility to the northeast:

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Streetview of 421 E. Second Avenue looking back toward the railroad tracks that separate Milo-Grogan from Italian Village:

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Streetview from Second Avenue in front of the warehouse building:

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Well, I'm intrigued.

 

Had to jump on the Access Portal for Columbus Building and Zoning for a project to notice a rather interesting engineering application.

It appears thats EMH&T ( local architecture and engineering firm) submitted a preliminary site plan for a "5th Avenue Arena" under the description of "New Stadium Arena" on December 28th. Anyone have any clue what this is about?

 

https://ca.columbus.gov/CA/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Engineering&TabName=Engineering&capID1=18PCS&capID2=00000&capID3=00256&agencyCode=COLUMBUS&IsToShowInspection=

 

Usually firms will do this if a client/party has interest/working plan for a project... and an arena for that site is absolute news to me. 

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44 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

Well, I'm intrigued.

 

Had to jump on the Access Portal for Columbus Building and Zoning for a project to notice a rather interesting engineering application.

It appears thats EMH&T ( local architecture and engineering firm) submitted a preliminary site plan for a "5th Avenue Arena" under the description of "New Stadium Arena" on December 28th. Anyone have any clue what this is about?

 

https://ca.columbus.gov/CA/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Engineering&TabName=Engineering&capID1=18PCS&capID2=00000&capID3=00256&agencyCode=COLUMBUS&IsToShowInspection=

 

Usually firms will do this if a client/party has interest/working plan for a project... and an arena for that site is absolute news to me. 

Maybe Rogue is building a MMA & bodybuilding arena?

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On 3/26/2018 at 1:29 PM, casey said:

So the inevitable development of M-G is actually starting to happen. Hopefully, some of these new residents will take advantage of the Cleveland Ave BRT, or at least walk to and from the SN instead of driving

 

192-Unit Apartment Development Proposed for Milo-Grogan

 

A new development proposed for Milo-Grogran would bring 192 new apartments to the southwest corner of Cleveland and Reynolds avenues. The project, from local developer Avenue Partners, calls for eight three-story buildings, a clubhouse and a pool.

 

Charles Thompkins is the chair of the Milo-Grogan Area Commission, which voted to approve the project at its March meeting. He was born and raised in the neighborhood and has served on commission for 18 years.

 

“I’ve been here when Milo was flourishing, and also when it went down,” he said, adding that this might be the first new apartment development he’s seen in his 50-plus years in the neighborhood.  “To see that growth coming back over here – overall, we think its going to be a good asset to the community and serve as a gateway to the neighborhood as you come across the bridge from downtown.”

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/192-unit-apartment-development-proposed-for-milo-grogan-bw1

This site is cleared:

 

 

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4,000-Seat Arena Proposed for Milo-Grogan

 

Rogue Fitness is floating a plan to build a 4,000-seat arena on East Fifth Avenue in Milo-Grogan.

 

The main function of the facility would be to serve as a home for the Rogue Invitational, as well as a handful of other CrossFit events, such as those associated with the Arnold Sports Festival.

 

The arena would be located at 545 E. Fifth Ave., just north of the 600,000 square foot building that Rogue built in 2016 to house the company’s headquarters as well as its manufacturing and distribution operations.

 

The concept was presented to the Milo-Grogan Area Commission last week by a broker representing Rogue.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/4000-seat-arena-proposed-for-milo-grogan-bw1

 

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Going vertical at Cleveland and Reynolds. (Lots of wires in this shot!)

 

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Glad to see Milo Grogan become investment worthy but I'm not sure I'd want to live on that street. The neighborhood still has a long way to go. 

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6 hours ago, cityscapes said:

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Glad to see Milo Grogan become investment worthy but I'm not sure I'd want to live on that street. The neighborhood still has a long way to go. 

If you saw what it looked like even three years ago you wouldn't think it has "a long way to go."  Those houses were going for $30,000 then. Now I see flipped ones listed for $200,000-$300,000. Plus that particular neighborhood West of Cleveland Ave, East of the railroad tracks, and south of Rogue Fitness HQ is small enough to be its own little enclave in the rougher Milo-Grogan neighborhood.

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On 7/1/2019 at 6:53 AM, aderwent said:

If you saw what it looked like even three years ago you wouldn't think it has "a long way to go."  Those houses were going for $30,000 then. Now I see flipped ones listed for $200,000-$300,000. Plus that particular neighborhood West of Cleveland Ave, East of the railroad tracks, and south of Rogue Fitness HQ is small enough to be its own little enclave in the rougher Milo-Grogan neighborhood.

I've always thought the same, it seemed like it could be an easy flip area, a lot of the homes are owned and rarely come up for sale.  It has potential to have a nice commercial strip on Cleveland and would be ideal for a slightly different version of Grandview Yard with offices and other commercial business. North High Brewing and Rogue have already shown this, COTA is also HQ'd in the area as is Rumpke's Columbus division.

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On 1/14/2019 at 11:52 AM, ColDayMan said:

4,000-Seat Arena Proposed for Milo-Grogan

Rogue Fitness is floating a plan to build a 4,000-seat arena on East Fifth Avenue in Milo-Grogan.

 

Business First just posted and update on this project and it's not necessarily a good one. Based on the article it looks like the city and Rogue are deadlocked in a battle of parking , Rogue is saying that if a solution cannot be be found they are considering building the arena either in another location or even city, specifically naming Austin TX. Yep... that city again. 

 

Details are that per city zoning, the arena will require 1,234 parking spaces to gain approval and Rogue is citing that based on the site it is not logistically possible. Rogue has proposed building an off-site parking structure/lot and shuttling attendees to the arena. The city is saying the plan is insufficient and lacking details, they need are asking for parking studies, traffic plans, shuttle plans, a pedestrian study to understand how "large volumes" of pedestrian traffic would impact the "already busy" intersection of Cleveland and 5th Ave, and ride share drop-off points. Additionally Rogue has asked for a setback variance from the required 60' down to 23' for the facility. Overall it seems Traffic Management and the Zoning board said with current plans they do not support the requested variances without further information.

 

I find it a rather curious circumstance that we are seeing more and more issues that all source back the cities inability to diversity transit and take infrastructure issue seriously but blaming the developers, and even more curious that Rogue has chosen Austin to name as the city in the battle here... I feel like I'm having DejaVu. 

 

Full article is linked below (paywalled). 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2019/10/25/exclusive-rogue-fitness-considering-austin-for.html?iana=hpmvp_colum_news_headline

 

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Wait....the CITY is the one requiring more parking?

 

Freaking zoning in Columbus is totally broken. If zoning is what gets this lost to Austin, I won't even know what to say.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Zyrokai said:

Wait....the CITY is the one requiring more parking?

 

Freaking zoning in Columbus is totally broken. If zoning is what gets this lost to Austin, I won't even know what to say.

 

 

I imagine there are too many people invested in the auto industry that are causing this stuff to be held back.  If you start building developments with no parking, people will need public transit and this will hurt their bottom line.  Central Ohio benefits from the Japanese auto industry.  Obviously the Honda plant, but I know some Japanese auto tech companies have brought their Amercian HQ to Dublin.  Maybe I just have my tinfoil hat on, though.

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26 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Business First just posted and update on this project and it's not necessarily a good one. Based on the article it looks like the city and Rogue are deadlocked in a battle of parking , Rogue is saying that if a solution cannot be be found they are considering building the arena either in another location or even city, specifically naming Austin TX. Yep... that city again. 

 

Details are that per city zoning, the arena will require 1,234 parking spaces to gain approval and Rogue is citing that based on the site it is not logistically possible. Rogue has proposed building an off-site parking structure/lot and shuttling attendees to the arena. The city is saying the plan is insufficient and lacking details, they need are asking for parking studies, traffic plans, shuttle plans, a pedestrian study to understand how "large volumes" of pedestrian traffic would impact the "already busy" intersection of Cleveland and 5th Ave, and ride share drop-off points. Additionally Rogue has asked for a setback variance from the required 60' down to 23' for the facility. Overall it seems Traffic Management and the Zoning board said with current plans they do not support the requested variances without further information.

 

I find it a rather curious circumstance that we are seeing more and more issues that all source back the cities inability to diversity transit and take infrastructure issue seriously but blaming the developers, and even more curious that Rogue has chosen Austin to name as the city in the battle here... I feel like I'm having DejaVu. 

 

Full article is linked below (paywalled). 

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2019/10/25/exclusive-rogue-fitness-considering-austin-for.html?iana=hpmvp_colum_news_headline

 

This article was frustrating to read.  I can't believe the city is worried about more parking.  If Rogue says it can work without the parking, give them their damn variance.

 

Only throwing out Austin as an alternative city seems like too much of a coincidence, though.  Trying to bring up bad memories to make the city give them what they want?

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After reading the article in full, it's completely ridiculous. This will 100% be the city's fault if it's lost.  the setback requirement is also laughable as well as the "large volumes of pedestrians" crap.

 

I feel like this stuff as a whole will continue to hold Columbus back unless something major happens.

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