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You know, the Redfish squandered an opportunity with at least 7 good sized apartment buildings surrounding it. They chased anyone who would be a regular away with bad service. I don't know how many towne property residents I heard complain about it. We went in when we first moved to Cincinnati and in an hour and a half only saw a server once. Hopefully someone who understands this wwill locate there.

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I get sick of how the media says that the poor climate downtown is responsible for many of the restaurants closing. It is such a disservice to the city and makes downtown worse than it actually is.

 

The thing is, there are a number of successful restaurant's downtown that are thriving, and more that are opening in the near future. If downtown were that bad of a market, why would McCormick and Scmicks, Mortons, and the new Brazilian place want to open up down there. People can say, "well that is because they get tax breaks" but tax breaks mean nothing if no one goes to eat there and you cant make a profit.

 

Looking at the restaurants that have closed in the past the main reason why they closed is not because of downtown or location but there service was lacking. Redfish was horrible for the value, the Masonette needed to reinvent itself. Bella (if it closes) has a lousy owner who is a horrible businessman (He gets sued by his partners and does not pay payroll or liquor taxes). The downtown Barleycorns was lousy, and the restuarant in the Grammercy did not move because it was not profitable but rather she wanted to try a different concept closer to where she lived in Mt. Lookout.

 

Anyway I could go on but my point is, if the owner of a restuarant is smart and knows what they are doing, and provides good service and a good value, they will be successful. I really cant think of a place that has actually closed downtown becuase the downtown market was poor, there are always other underlying reasons.

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Sadly, Bella is no longer offering Sunday brunch. When it was first offered, Bella provided the best brunch downtown. It has since fallen off considerably. (Inconsistent service, food presentation and quality) Even so, I am sorry to see it go. 

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Yeah, it kills me when people are like "just pay the bills." Well, they're probably not paying them because they don't have it. In the case of Bella at least, that likely has to do with lack of consistent business. People always think these businesses run surpluses, when most of them never make a dime and burn through their investments then close.

 

Downtown is a very tough environment for a bar or restaurant right now, like it or not. The foot traffic just isn't there, and the residential base isn't big enough yet. The area needs a big time shot in the arm, something that changes perceptions of the area, and draws people back down. Louisville did that with Fourth Street Live, at least sort of. Obviously, the stadiums are in the wrong place, not even having a chance at a casino hurts... there's just not enough reasons to make the trip down there right now. And safety obviously, while real crime isn't that high down in the CBD, there are a lot of people hanging out down there who seem to not know how to act in public. Most people don't want to spend their free time around that nonsense.

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I think the main point is that the places that have closed lately have had atrocious service and lackluster food at too-high prices.  I agree, "just pay the bills" is pretty non-helpful advice; and downtown could certainly be a better environment (as we all wish it were) - but when you drive your customers away, you can't act surprised that you don't have customers.

 

Simone's, while not downtown, is a great example.  I went there once, and paid way too much for so-so food served by surly, unhelpful and inattentive waiters.  I wanted to spend money on a second cocktail, but never got the chance.  A friend who lives nearby really wanted to love the place, wants to support her neighborhood, but it was crazy to spend that kind of money on poor food and off-putting service.

 

It sounds like the same story with Redfish.  And the point here is that Redfish or Simone's failing doesn't mean the neighborhood's bad for business.  It's not saying the neighborhood's good either - it just means a shitty restaurant going under doesn't speak to the issue.

 

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All I am saying is that every time a restaurant closes downtown, it is not always the fact that downtown is dead or has a crime problem which is the preception the news gives you. In many cases, it often has to do with poor food or service.

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See, I never had a negative experience at any of the three. I really liked Bella, I'm not really in Simone's part of town much, and Redfish had some good happy hour stuff. But, to each their own, I guess...

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I agree with the Redfish comments, as a restaurant that sat directly across the street from me, I had my share of bad experiences. Although like Nick said, the happy hour was good ... until they took it away (shortly before closing).

 

Hell, I even have a "$5.00 Off" coupon still hanging on my refrigerator from a previous bad experience. LOL!

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PHOTO: Gracies Grille in Burlington, Ky., is among the restaurants new to the Greater Cincinnati dining scene.  TERRY DUENNES/The Post

 

PHOTO: This is the exterior of the new Legends Sports Bar that’s going up on Decoursey Avenue in Covington.  TERRY DUENNES/The Post

 

Restaurateurs: Region cookin'

Chains, local entrepreneurs see more room at the table

By Greg Paeth

Post staff reporter

 

Based on the number of new restaurants that have either opened recently or are on the drawing boards, people in the food service business seem to be convinced that Greater Cincinnati is starving.

 

From multi-billion-dollar national restaurant chains that haven't ventured into the region before to a couple of buddies who are convinced that Latonia needs a family-friendly sports bar, well-entrenched food service professionals and restaurant industry rookies are all trying to carve off a thick slice of the Greater Cincinnati dining market.

 

 

 

Rest of article:

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060822/NEWS01/608220352

 

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Westin to close Albee restaurant

BY JON NEWBERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

August 30, 2006

 

CINCINNATI - The downtown Westin Cincinnati hotel said Tuesday it's shutting down the Albee restaurant at Fifth and Vine streets after this weekend and replacing it with a banquet room overlooking Fountain Square.

 

The Westin also announces that Ingredients and McCormick & Schmick's, will be opening.

 

E-mail jnewberry@enquirer.com

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060830/BIZ01/608300342/1076/BIZ

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Man the Dubliner sure changed their name to something really lame. Or was it bought out again? They should just call it DUbliner 2.0 :]

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1.  banquet space in prime real estate = horrible idea.

2.  generally, anything named "o'something" or "___'s" keeps me at a distance.

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Man the Dubliner sure changed their name to something really lame. Or was it bought out again? They should just call it DUbliner 2.0 :]

 

The Dubliner is now called Molly Malone's.  After it changed hands they had a sign up that said "THE NEW DUBLINER" and the former owner threatened to sue, so then they removed some letters and it was "THE NEW ........ER".  Finally they let patrons buy a chance (for charity) to name it and Molly Malone's was the winner.

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So how is the place?

 

I don't think it's quite the same, but it's still good.  The beer prices have decreased.  :)

 

Cheaper beer?!  I would say that alone qualifies "still good" as a gross understatement!

 

:-o

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So how is the place?

I don't think it's quite the same, but it's still good.  The beer prices have decreased.  :)

 

I haven't been in there in a while, but I would agree it was not the same.

The old owner took a chainsaw to the old wooden bar (now gone) so it lacks some of the charm, but the new manager is from Dublin and they had an Irish bartender the last time I was there so I guess there are tradeoffs.  It's more fun to be served Guinness by someone with an Irish brogue and witty pub sayings.  Their food seems to have fallen off though.

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Someone who lives in Groton Lofts told me the other day that a Friday's was supposed to fill the space vacated by Redfish. I am not sure on the validity of this though.

 

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  I hope that's not true.  :( 

 

However, I'm sure the suburbanites would love it.

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Last call for Jack Quinn's

Irish restaurant, pub announces close

BY CINDY SCHROEDER | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

September 11, 2006

 

PHOTO: Jack Quinn's Building The Enquirer/Sarah Conard

 

COVINGTON - It opened with high hopes in August 1998, but just short of its eighth anniversary, Jack Quinn's Restaurant & Irish Pub has closed.

 

Rest of article:

http://news.nky.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20060911/NEWS0103/609110347

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Round-the-clock eatery eyeing Cincinnati

Cincinnati Business Courier

September 8, 2006

 

 

CINCINNATI - Huddle House, an Atlanta family restaurant chain known for its large menu of traditional fare sold around the clock, is looking for franchisees so it can expand into Cincinnati.

 

Rest of article:

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2006/09/04/daily37.html?surround=lfn

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The 40-year-old company wants to open five locations in the market and is targeting Batavia, Fairfield, Wilmington, Lebanon and Lawrenceburg.

 

Utter trash.


"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

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I actually ate at a Waffle & Steak in Indiana...it is actually a Waffle House, but they couldn't name them that in Indiana because of some naming dispute or something like that in Indiana

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^Oh, so it is a waffle house ripoff :]

 

And a poor one at that (based on the ones here in Alabama).

 

I would say it is on par with Waffle House...which is not saying much.  It kind of depends on the city/location; the more backwoods you go, the sketchier they get.  I actually like their "Big Breakfast Combos" or "Big Star Breakfast" (I forget the name) better than Waffle House's versions.

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I actually ate at a Waffle & Steak in Indiana...it is actually a Waffle House, but they couldn't name them that in Indiana because of some naming dispute or something like that in Indiana

 

There is a chain called Waffle House based in Plainfield (west of Indianapolis on US 40) that had a combination yellow and orange sun/blue moon symbol.  According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House the Indiana-based Waffle House has renamed itself Sunshine Cafe (there is or used to be one in Middletown near the Marsh grocery as far as Ohio goes), and the Waffle Steak locations in Indiana are changing "Steak" to "House."

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