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55 minutes ago, metrocity said:

I always got them at Barneys, and that is now closed too as well as Co-op in lincoln park. In my defense, I work in the west loop and live in Pilsen. I rarely go across the river to N Michigan Ave. Good to know Nordstroms and Sak's have them. They didn't used to. They last forever...but I'm in need of some new pairs.

 

Keeping it on topic...do the Cleveland stores carry them?

Hint.  the internet is your friend.  😉😉    This retailer may be close to your home or office  https://www.notre-shop.com   Lawd!

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^ espere, de internet es tu amigo?? es verdad papi chulo? madre mia!  😉

 

 

here is some interesting retail news -- get yr legal weed on downtown:

 

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/07/30/1894089/0/en/Green-Thumb-Industries-GTI-Opens-Rise-Cleveland-the-City-s-First-Cannabis-Store-and-GTI-s-Third-Retail-Location-in-Ohio-on-August-1.html

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On 10/22/2019 at 12:26 PM, mrnyc said:

^ espere, de internet es tu amigo?? es verdad papi chulo? madre mia!  😉

 

 

here is some interesting retail news -- get yr legal weed on downtown:

 

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/07/30/1894089/0/en/Green-Thumb-Industries-GTI-Opens-Rise-Cleveland-the-City-s-First-Cannabis-Store-and-GTI-s-Third-Retail-Location-in-Ohio-on-August-1.html

 

That Spanglish is horrible!

 no way smh GIF by Robert E Blackmon 

 

Leave that weed alone folks.

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On 10/24/2019 at 12:10 AM, MyTwoSense said:

 

That Spanglish is horrible!

 no way smh GIF by Robert E Blackmon 

 

Leave that weed alone folks.

 

 

ay caramba!

 

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I think the pop up retail is a cool idea and seems to be pretty successful in that spot but it’s also somewhat concerning that such a prominent spot can’t find a permanent tenant but all the new projects continue to add more retail spaces ...

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^^^^^^ this is so correct!  One of the busiest corners in downtown CLE can't find a tenant.  And there is so much more vacant space on the way as these new apartments open. Lumen will have space, Halle has open space, Statler, Athlon, Euclid Grand, and on and on and on....plus May CO.

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1 hour ago, mack34 said:

^^^^^^ this is so correct!  One of the busiest corners in downtown CLE can't find a tenant.  And there is so much more vacant space on the way as these new apartments open. Lumen will have space, Halle has open space, Statler, Athlon, Euclid Grand, and on and on and on....plus May CO.

I think this is a fair question, cant find or can negotiate for a tenant?

 

This is not shade or me being condescending, but unless one of us on this board is at the table, this is speculation and what I've constantly called out in other threads, negative bias.

 

Are we aware if the landlord wants to lease the space right now? [not every landlord wants to rent their space for some unknown reason]

What are the requirements of said lease?

Could the landlord be looking for a specific tenant category?

Could the landlord be looking for a specific tenant to mesh with neighboring tenants and the building?

Could potential tenants put forth proposals that don't meet the community, financial, etc. needs of the landlord?

 

Its very easy to say X, Y & Z, but what is the real deal?

 

As I've said in other threads, it's dangerous to speculate, when we don't know all the facts.  I MORE THAN ANYONE want to see stable and needed retail on downtown streets.

 

Having said all of the above, does anyone have and knowledge as why the space is vacant?

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2 hours ago, mack34 said:

^^^^^^ this is so correct!  One of the busiest corners in downtown CLE can't find a tenant.  And there is so much more vacant space on the way as these new apartments open. Lumen will have space, Halle has open space, Statler, Athlon, Euclid Grand, and on and on and on....plus May CO.

And as you say, there are numerous high profile locations about to come on-line. With that in mind retailers have choice and can be choosy about location and leases/terms/rates.  

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2 minutes ago, mack34 said:

Since that spot became available March of 2016...they sure are being REALLY picky........

 

How can you make that state with 100% accuracy that the problem is the Landlord?

 

Let put it at a personal level.  Say you bought a home with an income apartment.  A realtor tells you the space should rent for $925 month, no less than $900.  You may not need the rental income. 

 

You have a broker list the unit, but all the offers come in under $500 would you entertain, let alone negotiate a lease?

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Any truth to a rumor with Granite City closing at Legacy this leaves the huge space along with closed Charming Charlie and Zgallerie for the Restoration Hardware Gallery Store???

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so what do people think would be the best available space for a city target?

 

no doubt one is on the way soon enough.

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18 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

so what do people think would be the best available space for a city target?

 

no doubt one is on the way soon enough.

Oh boy I hope  you know something.

 

Centennial Building.  Right in the middle of things and good synergy with Heinens across the street.

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3 minutes ago, Htsguy said:

Oh boy I hope  you know something.

 

Centennial Building.  Right in the middle of things and good synergy with Heinens across the street.

The smaller Targets near me all have groceries. I'm not sure Heinens could survive corporate competition just yet. 

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1 minute ago, surfohio said:

The smaller Targets near me all have groceries. I'm not sure Heinens could survive corporate competition just yet. 

But the selection at such Targets is limited is it not?  Ive never been impressed with them

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no, no sorry, i do not have any intel on city target.

 

i just see them popping up everywhere we go. 

 

i think it's inevitable, might as well signal good spots for them somewhere downtown.

 

i didn't think of the grocery aspect though. yeah that is kind of a problem.

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46 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

no, no sorry, i do not have any intel on city target.

 

i just see them popping up everywhere we go. 

 

i think it's inevitable, might as well signal good spots for them somewhere downtown.

 

i didn't think of the grocery aspect though. yeah that is kind of a problem.

 

the little Targets are not intended to be a full-service grocery stores, to say the least, but they do have basics like pasta, coffee, cereal, frozen vegetables and some fresh fruit, etc.. I go to the one in the east village all the time. It's open until midnight. One just opened up on  the Upper East Side on 3rd Ave & 70th St. 

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1 minute ago, eastvillagedon said:

 

the little Targets are not intended to be a full-service grocery stores, to say the least, but they do have basics like pasta, coffee, cereal, frozen vegetables and some fresh fruit, etc.. I go to the one in the east village all the time. It's open until midnight. One just opened up on  the Upper East Side on 3rd Ave & 70th St. 

 

Have you been to the Heinen's downtown? (Not snarky, just a general question) I'm not sure, in my opinion, if it could handle any direct competition in terms of boxed groceries or produce in the direct vicinity

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6 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

Have you been to the Heinen's downtown? (Not snarky, just a general question) I'm not sure, in my opinion, if it could handle any direct competition in terms of boxed groceries or produce in the direct vicinity

I don't really understand the comment. Heinen's is a full-service supermarket, although the downtown Cleveland one is more limited, I think (more prepared foods also, no?). The Target stores are not mainly for groceries. Why would Heinen's be threatened by that? (if that's what you meant) 

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3 minutes ago, eastvillagedon said:

I don't really understand the comment. Heinen's is a full-service supermarket, although the downtown Cleveland one is more limited, I think (more prepared foods also, no?). The Target stores are not mainly for groceries. Why would Heinen's be threatened by that? (if that's what you meant) 

 

Because they're actual "regular groceries" section is rather tiny when compared to most Heinen's. That, combined with the location, makes their prices a bit higher than elsewhere. So, the people that shop there either:

 

A) Come for the prepared meals at lunch/dinner, or

 

B) Live nearby without less expensive options for cereal, apples, etc

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1 minute ago, YABO713 said:

 

Because they're actual "regular groceries" section is rather tiny when compared to most Heinen's. That, combined with the location, makes their prices a bit higher than elsewhere. So, the people that shop there either:

 

A) Come for the prepared meals at lunch/dinner, or

 

B) Live nearby without less expensive options for cereal, apples, etc

I see. Yeah, the prices for "regular groceries" in the Target stores can be pretty cheap, and they always have sales on cereal, and a wide variety of packaged, sliced cheese, for example. A standard size brick of the store brand of cream cheese is $1.19 (that's exceptionally low for NYC), and a lot of younger people go there for beer! I don't think Henein's is known for bargain prices, is it?

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12 minutes ago, eastvillagedon said:

I see. Yeah, the prices for "regular groceries" in the Target stores can be pretty cheap, and they always have sales on cereal, and a wide variety of packaged, sliced cheese, for example. A standard size brick of the store brand of cream cheese is $1.19 (that's exceptionally low for NYC), and a lot of younger people go there for beer! I don't think Henein's is known for bargain prices, is it?

 

No, by Cleveland standard its a step above Giant Eagle & Meijer and a step below Whole Foods

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Not everyone shops on price... Far from it. Weekly, my wife and I shop Whole Foods, and Heinen's for our main food purchases, Target (since in there anyway for non-food stuff) for a few bottles and boxed products and Trader Joe's and Costco also 2-4x a month. We buy different things in each store based on assortment and preference or convenience, but very little is bought at one store over another based on cost. Not saying we don't and wouldn't, but would assume we are not alone.

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5 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

No, by Cleveland standard its a step above Giant Eagle & Meijer and a step below Whole Foods

I personally find better prices at Heinen's than Giant Eagle routinely.   Giant Eagle is actually super expensive.  Someone needs to pay for those "Fuel Perks" 

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The two CVSs in downtown stand to lose more to a nearby Target than Heinens. The downtown Heinens already shies away from the kinds of categories that Target dominates in by having a limited selection (e.g. TP, pet food), or carries a super-premium range that a Target, or CVS, would never carry (e.g. personal care)

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And they reckon that the last thing she saw in her life was
Sting, singing on the roof of the Barbican

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In addition to the report in the CAC Building thread that a commercial building permit was filed for that retail space I noticed workers going into the 1110 Euclid building (the empty retail space on the East side of the building). Not sure if that means anything but see lights on inside.

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^ That’s a cool space, with an old vault still installed in the back wall. Is there any old building on Euclid that wasn’t a bank back when? 😅


And they reckon that the last thing she saw in her life was
Sting, singing on the roof of the Barbican

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I use to shop at Target for groceries when they first entered that market - both at Steelyards and at Cedar Center. I've generally stopped because they never have anything in stock. Not sure if its just those two stores, or if the issues have been remedied now (though doesn't seem like it the few times I looked in the past year) I don't see a downtown City Target being a huge grocery competitor to Heinen's. What kind of serious grocery doesn't even keep milk stocked? Also, I feel like the Steelyards is close enough that if downtown residents wanted to shop there for groceries instead of Heinen's, then they already would be. 

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Did I miss something? Is a Target opening in Downtown? That's great if so---where will it be?  (If not, I was misled by the lengthly discussion on how Target will affect the Heinens Downtown. I know we love to speculate and pontificate here at UO!)

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According to the address listed here, Mr. Hero and Downtown Convenience (Currently at the base of the May Co. garage) are moving down into the empty spot in the Southworth Buidling, which I believe is next to a Subway interestingly. Unless that is an error 🤷‍♂️ Is Edible Arrangements still open?  I assume Bedrock is clearing out the Garage for the renovation.

 

Final Design Development Approval:

Project: DF2019-072: Mr. Hero | Downtown Convenience Signage

The proposed installation of new exterior signage Project Address: 2013 Ontario Street
Project Representative: George Dragon, Cicogna Sign Co

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On 11/4/2019 at 7:21 PM, mrclifton88 said:

@Pugu sadly no... this was just a continuation of the ongoing speculation as to where City Target would go should it ever arrive 🤪 

City Target....

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