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and let me just clarify I didn't mean luxury retail mecessarily, just retail in general, and restaurants/bars along with the souvenir shops. Things that would give people another destination to visit in the city if they wanted to people watch, eat or do some shopping. That's the main thing I think the city lacks today, a place where you can go when the weather is nice where you can sit and just watch all the people walking around going about their business on ANY given day that is not a Life style center.

 

Thats why I point to CC Philly as a model.  Did you look?

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and let me just clarify I didn't mean luxury retail mecessarily, just retail in general, and restaurants/bars along with the souvenir shops. Things that would give people another destination to visit in the city if they wanted to people watch, eat or do some shopping. That's the main thing I think the city lacks today, a place where you can go when the weather is nice where you can sit and just watch all the people walking around going about their business on ANY given day that is not a Life style center.

 

Wouldn't E4th and Euclid pretty much fit this description in its current form??

 

Does it need more retail and less restaurants, sure, but I think that this stretch is mostly there already.

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Wouldn't E4th and Euclid pretty much fit this description in its current form??

 

Does it need more retail and less restaurants, sure, but I think that this stretch is mostly there already.

 

Except that the buildings next to and including the Goldfish Army store along the south side of Prospect degrade that area. They desperately need to be rehabbed -- like with the kind of retail you all seem to want.


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Wouldn't E4th and Euclid pretty much fit this description in its current form??

 

Does it need more retail and less restaurants, sure, but I think that this stretch is mostly there already.

 

Except that the buildings next to and including the Goldfish Army store along the south side of Prospect degrade that area. They desperately need to be rehabbed -- like with the kind of retail you all seem to want.

 

Exactly, right now we have streets that might fit that criteria, but not districts, or 5 or more streets of this type of activity. That may change in the next year with the opening of the casino and places that may open up do to proximity to the casino, but today I don't think we have any districts, except maybe Shaker Square???

 

And no MTS, I haven't looked yet, but I will.

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Wouldn't E4th and Euclid pretty much fit this description in its current form??

 

Does it need more retail and less restaurants, sure, but I think that this stretch is mostly there already.

 

Except that the buildings next to and including the Goldfish Army store along the south side of Prospect degrade that area. They desperately need to be rehabbed -- like with the kind of retail you all seem to want.

 

Exactly, right now we have streets that might fit that criteria, but not districts, or 5 or more streets of this type of activity. That may change in the next year with the opening of the casino and places that may open up do to proximity to the casino, but today I don't think we have any districts, except maybe Shaker Square???

 

And no MTS, I haven't looked yet, but I will.

 

Well get to viewing, ya damn whippersnapper!

 

Fill-in at existing locations is exactly what Philly did.  Just as we now have hotels, housing and big ticket developments near completion, the street level retail now needs to come.  Residents, business folks should be writing/calling/emailing and the city/county should be working with real estate marketers to get those spaces filled!

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They've been clearing out/cleaning up the (forgive me if I'm wrong as I'm not from here) old May Dept store??? building down on the Prospect side.  It's a huge space.

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Colonial Marketplace retail in line for fixup

PlayhouseSquare group latest to try its hand, will try to create theme

By STAN BULLARD

4:30 am, April 9, 2012

 

The property management arm of PlayhouseSquare Foundation has been called upon to play the lead role in rejuvenating the retail portion of Colonial Marketplace, which consists of two historic arcades and a Residence Inn hotel near the East Fourth Street neighborhood in downtown Cleveland. Allen Wiant, vice president of strategic investment at PlayhouseSquare Real Estate Services, said Colonial Marketplace is in need of a new story to rebrand the property, which was created last decade as part of a $30 million investment that transformed upper-floor offices in the old Colonial Arcade to the extended stay hotel.

 

 

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?rls=com.microsoft%3A*%3AIE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7SUNA_en&hl=en&q=cache:hiGI1ps1bVkJ:http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20120409/SUB1/304099977/1004/toc&Profile=1004+Colonial+Marketplace+retail+in+line+for+fixup&ct=clnk

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Interesting, thanks.  If nothing else, I would be thrilled if they ditched the name "Colonial Marketplace" as part of this, and the wretched signage with that name.

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Interesting, thanks.  If nothing else, I would be thrilled if they ditched the name "Colonial Marketplace" as part of this, and the wretched signage with that name.

 

How about "E.6th Alleyway" or "E.6th Arcade"

 

There is a positive vibe with lower Euclid Ave, especially E.4th.  This rebranding could play off this.

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I was just thinking about this the other day... The Colonial Arcade especially needs some help with the Euclid entrance. It could use a fix up. But with Colossal Cupcakes and Nexus on both ends hopefully these two arcades can come back to life!

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^^Yes, double agreed.  I loathe the name "Colonial Marketplace" intensely because it conjures images of a strip retail center in suburban Virginia.  I don't get why the developers here casually discarded a century of place-making/branding with their tacky, superficial re-do.  Hopefully PHS will have the room in their management to de-tackify the place.

 

I get that "Euclid Arcade" could be a little confusing to people, but they could at least call them the "Colonial Arcades" or something like that.  Even though they are grossly underused, our arcades are a pretty nifty distinguishing feature of our downtown that should be played up, not obscured through icky 1980s Festival! names.

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I think the arcades would be perfect for shops like Room Service, Salty Not Sweet, and other local stores that could all work well together, and make it somewhat a destination. Make it Cleveland. It could also be a stop for tourists wanting a piece of Cleveland to take home with them.

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^^Yes, double agreed.  I loathe the name "Colonial Marketplace" intensely because it conjures images of a strip retail center in suburban Virginia.  I don't get why the developers here casually discarded a century of place-making/branding with their tacky, superficial re-do.  Hopefully PHS will have the room in their management to de-tackify the place.

 

I get that "Euclid Arcade" could be a little confusing to people, but they could at least call them the "Colonial Arcades" or something like that.  Even though they are grossly underused, our arcades are a pretty nifty distinguishing feature of our downtown that should be played up, not obscured through icky 1980s Festival! names.

 

How could it be confusing?  To me that is a sign that two generation of Clevelanders have lost touch with downtown and its historic buildings/places!  Changing the names back to their original names would be a learning experience, especially since lower Euclid and Prospect are rip for redevelopment with the Casino, the existing Gateway development, East 4th.  East Ninth will come online early next year and potential rebranding of retail spaces in Tower City.

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^I'm pretty sure it was confusing to a lot of people even 30 years ago to have both a "Euclid Arcade" and "The Arcade" on Euclid Avenue right across the street, especially for people who only occasionally came downtown.  Not saying I found it confusing. So, I'd be psyched of PHS restored the Euclid Arcade name, but am still sympathetic to building owners wanting to differentiate a bit. YMMV.

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^I'm pretty sure it was confusing to a lot of people even 30 years ago to have both a "Euclid Arcade" and "The Arcade" on Euclid Avenue right across the street, especially for people who only occasionally came downtown.  Not saying I found it confusing. So, I'd be psyched of PHS restored the Euclid Arcade name, but am still sympathetic to building owners wanting to differentiate a bit. YMMV.

 

I didn't get it confused.  It's like saying go to Halle's and Higbees.  But that's just my opinion.

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What does something big like dlsney even mean???  Someone in the article was quoted as saying they need to do something BIG... like dlsney

 

Wasn't Disney in the Galleria? 

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^The Euclid Arcade has the terra-cotta treatment and a barrel vault ceiling - and yes, has a slight bend.

 

In other news, Best Buy at Steelyard Commons is closing on May 12th. http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/the-best-buy-store-at-steelyard-commons-is-closing

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^The Euclid Arcade has the terra-cotta treatment and a barrel vault ceiling - and yes, has a slight bend.

 

In other news, Best Buy at Steelyard Commons is closing on May 12th. http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/the-best-buy-store-at-steelyard-commons-is-closing

 

That sucks. That's the one I go to most often.


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Does anyone remember Market 25 - the venue/space - that existed prior to the Bier Markt? What about something like that for the arcades? Let artists/craftsman and other small vendors rent small space on a monthly or maybe even weekly basis. There are so many cool pop up shops during Christmas time, it would be great if there was a venue that was a more year round destination.

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Does anyone remember Market 25 - the venue/space - that existed prior to the Bier Markt? What about something like that for the arcades? Let artists/craftsman and other small vendors rent small space on a monthly or maybe even weekly basis. There are so many cool pop up shops during Christmas time, it would be great if there was a venue that was a more year round destination.

 

That is something that has been proposed and worked on, but it hasn't gone anywhere in the three years or so I've been involved with it.

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I guess there were galleries in there, but if the arcades really got their act together to rebrand, they would get in touch with better quality artists and craftsman. Something like a year-round Made in the 216 or Cleveland Handmade Market (Tower Press).

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^^Yup, with the "ARTcade" effort http://www.cleveland.com/artseconomy/index.ssf?/artseconomy/more/06.html

 

But was focused just on galleries.  Ideally those arcade spaces would work as incubators without much of an organized effort.  Aren't some or most of the food court operators in there mom & pop?  Or maybe we just haven't found the winning cluster yet. 

 

As the residential population right around there continues to grow, could be pretty sweet to see some high quality groceries in some of those spaces to serve that part of downtown.  Sort of like a mini version of the food market at Grand Central Station.

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Planet Fitness is going into the vacated Barnes and Noble space at Richmond Town Square. I don't know if this is their first location in Cleveland, but I've seen them around Columbus.

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^I believe this was already noted up thread and has been discussed at length for the past 3-4 days in the Steelyard thread (if you would like to review other posters comments on the topic)

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Oh, got it.  I don't read everything in this thread (or the Steelyard one) so I missed it.  And here I was thinking I had a scoop!

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Planet Fitness is going into the vacated Barnes and Noble space at Richmond Town Square. I don't know if this is their first location in Cleveland, but I've seen them around Columbus.

 

There is one in Rocky River on Detroit near the Lakewood border.  After looking at their website it appears there are several in NEO.

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At Eton , Fee People opens Friday and Berger & Silver is closing at end of year or so says their )Does that reopen Tiffany discussion for that spot??)

 

Also, am currently in Salt Lake City and their new downtown outdoor,residential and pedestrian dining and shopping "street," City Creek Center,  has a retractable roof. If the Warehouse District mixed use ever gets back on drawing board, what a great 4 seasons idea...

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Has anyone else heard a rumour of Target leaving Steelyard??!! I'm hoping someone is just confused about Best Buy, but something about rent being too high.

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Has anyone else heard a rumour of Target leaving Steelyard??!! I'm hoping someone is just confused about Best Buy, but something about rent being too high.

 

That would be a HUGE blow to the development. Things would start looking very bad, and phase 2 would have to be canceled. I hope that is just wrong information.

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Let's get some facts before we speculate.

 

The admins of this board do not want urbanohio to be used to spread rumors.

 

If you hear something from an employee, something on the news, then we can talk about it

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