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Does anyone know of a website for Heritage Development Company of Moreland Hills, Ohio.  They are currently building a large mixed use development down the street from me, I believe it will be called Deerfield Commons.  Its supposed to have 300 some homes, condos, and a town center type shopping center.  Its on Oak Point Road on the Amherst/Lorain border just north of I-90.  I cant seem to find a website or anything, if anyone has any info I would appreciate it greatly. THANKS!!

 

 

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Maybe try the developers diversified website.  They are owned by the same family. 

no wonder you have so much intrest in the cleveland quarries project.  I never thought amherst would develope this much.

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can someone tell me what exactly all these people who are supposed to move into these new residential developments in that area are going to do for a living? there is no place in ohio, if in all of america, where employment prospects are so bleak. they have lost over three thousand jobs in a just a few years! its a disaster zone --- the only thing comparable is the great depression! i guess i just do not understand the speculative real estate world.

 

todays local lorain news. read it and weep!:

 

Loss Ford creates urgency for Lorain to pass tax hike

 

MIKE SAKAL, Morning Journal Writer01/23/2005

 

LORAIN -- Lorain Auditor Ron Mantini ''unofficially'' closed the books on another financially challenging year for the city last week, and the general fund deficit now stands at $2.9 million -- $500,000 more than what it did at the end of 2003.

 

 

The general fund deficit has steadily climbed since 2001, and now, Lorain's city leaders have been preparing for the loss of the Ford Motor Co.'s Lorain Assembly Plant, which will close at the end of this year, taking 1,700 jobs with it.

 

In an attempt to stay on an even keel with the loss of $2.2 million a year in annual income that the city will lose with the shuttering of the Ford plant, Lorain has placed a five-year one-fourth of a percent income tax hike on the Feb. 8 special election ballot.

 

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More at:

http://www.morningjournal.com/

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Lots of police officers, teachers, doctors, nurses, hospital staff, lawyers, firemen, and on and on... 

 

Its not called "Pill Hill" for no reason

 

Ive tried to explain this "part" of Lorain before but I guess I didnt do a very good job so let me try again...

 

There is  a Lorain School District and an Amherst School district.... not to be confused with the city of Lorain and the city of Amherst.....

 

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http://www.loraincounty.com/auditor/logged-in/maps/?id=401242832z|k0lHq4dv4r.0s

http://www.loraincounty.com/auditor/logged-in/?id=401242832z|k0lHq4dv4r.0s

 

While the people continue to FLEE FROM the failing Lorain "school district"-(the area northeast of the green line)- which has been in fiscal emergency for 5 or more years and where less than 30 percent of the kids go to college....

 

people continue FLEE TO the Amherst "school district"- (area inside the green line)-which has been rated excellent by the state of Ohio for four straight years, and where over 90 percent of the kids go to college.

 

People who live in the Amherst Schools primarly work in Cuyahoga county (Cleveland) and tend to be middle to upper income... On the other hand a good number of people who live in the Lorain School District are unemployed or work at minimum wage jobs.. like McDonalds or Burger King, Im not saying all are like that... but a good number do.

 

Id say the average new house built in Amhest Schools costs about 275-300k.....Lorain schools have very very few new housing developments. Of the few new homes sold there Id say the average value is under 100k.  Thats just the way it is.... those homes will probably be sold before they can even be built.

 

 

This area isnt alone however, cities bordering Lorain to the east (Sheffield Twp., Avon, Avon Lake) are in the same position as the Amherst area..... Lorain County is not as dead as you might think.  Avon is the fastest growing city in all of Ohio, and guess what.... its just less than 5 miles from Lorain.

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well i guess its on amherst to support the new retail. they do need more shopping around there though so its long overdue in a sense. i don't think anyone east of lorain or even east side of lorain will shop out there much, but we'll see maybe they will bring in something unique to the area. also, i would have hoped for less "sprawlish" development, but at least its something. another thing people may not understand is how badly underserved the area is re: retail. thx steele keep us posted!

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Friday, February 24, 2006 

 

Beachwood gives go-ahead to mall overhaul

 

www.cleveland.com

 

5:00 p.m.

 

Janet H. Cho

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

The owners of Beachwood Place mall have received an initial go-ahead from Beachwood officials on a multimillion-dollar proposal to expand, renovate and partially reconfigure the shopping center...

 

 

 

 

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This was on my Cox-Cleveland home page....

 

Wal-Mart Supercenter Planned In Suburbs   

04-19-2006 6:19 AM

 

(Bedford, OH) -- The largest Wal-Mart Supercenter in Ohio, and possibly the nation, is being planned in Bedford. Officials with the discount retailer unveiled plans last night for its store at the Middlebrook Market Square project. The store would encompass 200-thousand-square-feet, with room for a grocery store and service businesses along with Wal-Mart's usual wares. More than 450 people would be hired to staff the store when it opens next year.

 

 

Copyright 2006 Metro Networks Communications Inc., A Westwood One Company

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Just what Cleveland needed, another Wal-Mart.. last time I checked there is a new one being built at CityView Center in Garfield Heights, just 2 suburbs to the west. Plus the new one being built in the Industrial Valley, the new one just built 2 years ago in Parma, and then the 20 or however many others in the area.. yay I can't fucking wait for the monopoly to begin..

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Come to think of it, 200,000 square feet can't be the biggest Wal-Mart around. I distinctly recall from the past dozen or so years that I've written about other superstores in the area of similar size. Perhaps they just weren't Wal-Marts.... Sucks either way.

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Come to think of it, 200,000 square feet can't be the biggest Wal-Mart around. I distinctly recall from the past dozen or so years that I've written about other superstores in the area of similar size. Perhaps they just weren't Wal-Marts.... Sucks either way.

 

I too thought 200,000 square feet was about right for a Super Wal-Mart....according to a press release, the new Wal-Mart in my hometown of Celina is 203,091 sq. ft....but as you said KJP, it sucks.

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it's funny how the biggest retailer in the world didn't have much of a presence in Cleveland 10 years ago. It's all happening now.. I think the only one that's been around a long time is the one on Brookpark Road in Brooklyn.. all the others are <10 years old. Sick stuff indeed..

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From the 5/4/06 Bedford Times-Register:

 

 

Council approves Wal-Mart site plan

by Emily Canning-Dean

Reporter

 

Bedford - Though Council gave the green light to developers to construct a 207,000-square-foot, $6 million Wal-Mart Super Center at Meadowbrook Market Square, at least one resident is concerned about the effects the store may have on the community.

 

E-mail: ecanning@recordpub.com

Phone: 440-232-4055 ext. 4110

 

http://www.bedfordtimesregister.com/article.php?pathToFile=/archive/05042006/news/&file=_news2.txt&article=1&tD=05042006

 

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From the 6/22/06 Sun Press:

 

 

Beachwood Place getting a facelift

Thursday, June 22, 2006

By Karen Kurdziel

The Sun Press

 

BEACHWOOD - The expansion and renovation of Beachwood Place will be nearly done by mid-November, Julia Zambudio of General Growth Properties Inc. told City Council Monday.

 

Chicago-based General Growth owns the mall...

 

KA Architecture of Cleveland designed the project.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/sun/sunpress/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1150994244104590.xml&coll=3

 

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Didn't see a better thread to place this article in, and we ought to have one to discuss general developments like this, the extent to which retail is overbuilt in NE Ohio, etc....

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/business/115200199376580.xml&coll=2

 

Woodmere center getting new tenants

Boutiques, upscale shops coming to Eton

Tuesday, July 04, 2006

Thomas W. Gerdel

Plain Dealer Reporter

 

Ten fashion boutiques and upscale shops are coming to Eton Chagrin Boulevard in a move aimed at bolstering the image of the Woodmere center as a fashion district.

 

Most of the new tenants are relocating from other shopping areas, and some will take up space formerly occupied by former Eton businesses such as Ruth's Chris Steak House, the Bossa Nova nightclub and Solomon's lingerie store, said Darryl Whitehead, director of marketing for Stark Enterprises Inc.

 

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Not sure if this is supposed to go here or not, but Kim Crow - PD Style Editor - has been giving her input on retail for downtown Cleveland.

 

New projects need destination stores

Wednesday, July 19, 2006

Kim Crow

Plain Dealer

 

There are big plans afoot for downtown Cleveland.

 

Developers Scott Wolstein, Bob Stark and others are planning major projects for the Flats and the Warehouse District. There is also the proposed Avenue District proj ect (near the Galleria). Every plan includes a mix of housing, restau rants and retail. The plans are in the "vague" phase as the developers acquire the necessary property and funding, all the messy details that need to be solved before they can sign a list of tenants.

 

More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com

 

Readers wish for these shops

Wednesday, July 26, 2006

Kim Crow

Plain Dealer

 

Cleveland shoppers unite!

 

Last week I wrote about the need for destination stores in the ambitious plans developers have for downtown Cleveland, and I invited readers to send me their wish lists. I was happy to hear from nearly 100 heavily interested, well-traveled folks eager for more diverse shopping closer to home.

 

More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com

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And to my darlings who responded, I have one gentle point to make: We must get over the fact that we have to pay for parking downtown. Isn't diverse, dynamic shopping worth the price of a Starbucks latte and minimuffin?

Of course it is.

 

Yay Kim! :clap: My new favorite PD reporter.

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Someone out there apparently feels pretty strongly about Cleveland being under-represented with retail:

 

Shopping man fashions a plan to attract stores

Wednesday, August 16, 2006

Kim Crow

Plain Dealer Style Editor

 

When you think about folks with quirky hobbies, you tend to think along the lines of beekeeping, sky-diving and stamp collecting.

 

Compiling extensive spreadsheets about market saturation and retail/restaurant development among the top 20 metropolitan areas in the United States seems, well, a lot less fun.

 

More at cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com

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Sounds like a man I could get along with!

 

And then there's this quote: "There's the whole East Side-West Side thing, too, which splits retailers a bit as to where they might place their store."

 

I know! How about in the middle!  A Whole Foods at Cedar Center is hardly a triumph for the region.  A Whole Foods Downtown would be. 

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Indeed the notion of pulling together two largely seperate retail markets should be on of the main selling points for downtown retail.

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I find it surprising that Cleveland does not have a bebe or Cole Haan. Columbus is the only city in the state that has a Cole Haan. Personally, I think both Columbus and Cleveland should have a Tiffany and Company. Cincy has a Kenneth Cole but not Columbus and Cleveland. Hopefully Columbus and Cleveland can and will get some of these stores. What Ohio needs is a Bloomingdales and Cleveland or Columbus could use a Barney's Co-Op. Perhaps time will tell and perhaps one or both, Columbus and Cleveland, can get these stores. It's only a matter of time.

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I totally agree with the assertion that Cleveland lacks retail options (and obviously, there is an absolute dirge available to us in the city proper), but I'm not sure I understand the methodology. He analyzed the 20 largest metropolitan areas and Cleveland was the only one without a few key retailers. But if he's basing market presence purely on number of residents (e.g. potential customers), then at #16, there are only 4 markets smaller than us and therefore only 3 markets that should be less likely to get stores than us. Granted, he did have #s for Tiffany's that delved into much smaller markets, but what about other stores? And obviously, companies base retail feasibility on a host of factors other than just number of residents. What about median age, income, density in a particular neighborhood (surely not all of the upper-crust throughout the MSA, even those that are particularly interested in the products) are going to travel to a single Tiffany's store, no matter how centrally located. We have to be able to show retailers some critical mass of people that fit their target demographics and live in relatively high density. If we really want to aggressively pursue national retailers, we should be running market and demographic analyses on dense pockets of Cleveland and inner-ring suburbs (W. 25th area, Lakewood/Edgewater, Shaker Square, the stretch from Cedar Hill to Cedar Lee and north to Coventry, etc.) and then pitching to those companies that a) don't have much competition in our area and b) whose target markets match up nicely to what we uncover.

 

We even have a handy-dandy tool to do it: TeamNEO's REDIS (http://www.neogis.org/). Here, you can put in a Northeast Ohio address ("Search property by address") and then run a 2005 demographic profile, a 2010 demographic estimate, a consumer expenditures report and a business and workforce report, for an area as small as one radial mile. If you're an urban geek (and I assume most of us are), this is sooooo much fun (although, if you live in a rougher neighborhood, be prepared to get depressed).

 

So, dude who's assembling all this data for Kim Crow, if you're an Urban Ohioer, share your full data set with us! Let's get somethin' started!!! I'm tired of waiting for Zara, Topman and Muji to show up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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We even have a handy-dandy tool to do it: TeamNEO's REDIS (http://www.neogis.org/). Here, you can put in a Northeast Ohio address ("Search property by address") and then run a 2005 demographic profile, a 2010 demographic estimate, a consumer expenditures report and a business and workforce report, for an area as small as one radial mile. If you're an urban geek (and I assume most of us are), this is sooooo much fun (although, if you live in a rougher neighborhood, be prepared to get depressed).

 

Ugh, why is Columbia Station NOT on their list of towns?

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MGD, I thought exactly the same thing. Isn't it just common sense to put the retail downtown? It's a real indication of how much we've sprawled that this doesn't even seem to occur to people. (Also, the two freeways that serve the region's wealthiest areas -- 271 and 480 -- don't go downtown.)

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The Cleveland area has horrible retail options, even compared to a city like Detroit. The shopping this guy probably enjoys would be in SoHo in NYC or Newbury Street in Boston -- places with high-tier retailers that approach shopping as an experience more than just a transaction.

 

Crocker Park and Beachwood probably offer the best "mall" stores around here, but when you put them in perspective nationally, those stores are a dime a dozen. Take Rocky River's new little development: It's basically a carbon copy store-wise of what they put in Hudson. This is incredibly unimaginative. Crocker Park has H&M -- but now Beachwood is getting one. Soon that'll be just like the Gap. As these big retailers expand, every new store reduces their uniqueness and turns their products into a commodity.

 

From a business perspective, you can bitch all you want about Gucci not opening a store in Northeast Ohio, but I just can't believe they are holding out because of stereotypes. I imagine they place their stores in areas that have certain demographics. For example, the Cleveland area may have an acceptable demographic on the whole, but what if it is so spread out, are they are afraid to come into the market? Just for the sake of arguement, let's say they have 100 potential customers each in Rocky River, Chagrin Falls, Solon, Westlake and Medina. They can't put the store in one of these cities because the market won't support it, but if they put it in downtown Cleveland, will anyone frequent it? I have no idea.

 

To me, this goes back to Tower City. In the 1990s when I was younger, that was THE mall around here. It was a major event in my family when we visited because it had stores that are unavailable in other places, and it was in an incredibly unique location. Where did things go wrong? I hope people have learned some valuable lessons about this market from that experience.

 

The issue I'm wondering about Northeast Ohio is, do the people here REALLY want these high-tier, unique and often LOCAL retailers? In bigger cities we always compare ourselves to (Chicago, NYC), their most visited shopping locations usually are not anchored by the Gap. They are unique boutiques and shops and stores that have created a shopping environment that is attractive to the big corporate stores, which move in and proceed to ruin the neighborhood.

 

I'm wandering all over the place right now, but I am coming to my fundamental gripe with Cleveland. We can have nearly anything we want by looking to our own people instead of looking for some big eye in the sky to fix everything all the time. It's almost like, if a person studies fashion design at Virginia Marti or Kent State, they have to move to NYC and hit it big before they can sell their stuff in their hometown. Fundamentally, there is no reason why Cleveland can't support its own people, but in the end people choose not to. We vote with our dollars, and each one spent in Beachwood is another reason why an aspiring clothing designer isn't opening an exciting shop in Ohio City or downtown.

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This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about above. This is disheartening, really. Nobody works together.

 

4:31 p.m. Friday

 

Coffeehouses have been artistic and literary hangouts ever since writer Samuel Johnson haunted the coffee shops of 18th-century London.

 

The Cleveland Museum of Art drew on that tradition Friday when it announced an agreement with Starbucks, the giant, Seattle-based purveyor of specialty coffees, to display posters of artworks and to hold educational programs at 10 Starbucks stores across Greater Cleveland.

 

More at cleveland.com

http://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/entertainment/index.ssf?/mtlogs/cleve_entertainment/archives/2006_08.html#173666

Museum's deal with Starbucks irks local vendors

 

 

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