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I've talked to half a dozen people and it may be wishfull thinking on my part but they've told me that new construction usually has fewer problems than rehabs because there are fewer surprises during the construction process.

 

I have heard this as well.  The reason why our condo in the McAlpin is so far behind schedule is because of "surprises" found in the building during the rehab.  I talked to the project manager for the construction company, and she said that if it was new contruction, it would be finished now.

 

Best of luck to those buying in Parker Flats!  It'll be great to have so many neighbors on 4th St.

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I've talked to half a dozen people and it may be wishfull thinking on my part but they've told me that new construction usually has fewer problems than rehabs because there are fewer surprises during the construction process.

 

I have heard this as well.  The reason why our condo in the McAlpin is so far behind schedule is because of "surprises" found in the building during the rehab.  I talked to the project manager for the construction company, and she said that if it was new contruction, it would be finished now.

 

Best of luck to those buying in Parker Flats!  It'll be great to have so many neighbors on 4th St.

 

Yup.  I wasn't so upset with the timeframe, as things happen.  I am more bothered by the lying and failure, and thus far a failure to deliver a finished quality product.

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Does anyone have a subscription to the Cincinnati Business journal? Aug 11 they had a story about a local developer getting caught up in a prevailing wage dispute. Since I am not a subscriber I could only read the first two paragraphs.

 

" A legal dispute over Ohio's prevailing-wage law could derail a downtown condo project and have a ripple effect on other city-funded development deals.

 

"It's going to absolutely kill deals now and in the future," said Pete Witte, a Price Hill neighborhood activist who claims plans for a $12 million Kroger store are in limbo as the city waits for a resolution of the prevailing wage dispute. "

 

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2006/08/14/tidbits1.html

 

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^I read the full article.  The union claims that the financing used by MED requires them to pay prevailing wages and Witte's comment is referring to other developments that anticipate using the same financing plan, such as the Montgomery Inn-Riverfront project.  There is a hearing for a restraining order on September 5.  If the union wins, MED would have to stop construction until the case is settled or some outcome is reached.  There wasn't much more to the article.

 

My own fear is that if the union wins and MED must stop construction or has to pay the prevailing wage the project will die.  Sadly, I'm not surprised but I really want my condo.

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Damn, Damn, Double damn

Damn that sucks. After all the waiting and other crap. If they wouldn't have goofed around so long it would be half done by now. They were originally aiming to start last Dec.

Those were going to be the coolest Condo's in the city.

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it pretty much looks like construction is already stopped anyway. i swung over to drop my keys off at kinsey the other night and not much has changed at the site. some re-enforcing is going into the eastern basement walls of kinsey, but most equipment has been removed from the site.

 

i don't think things are going well over at MED at the moment

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I called MED today to get the scoop on all the latest problems.  They are apparently in the process of sending a letter out to all buyers to update the project's status.  I was told that even were MED to lose the suit that the project would continue.  Also, I was told that the construction stoppage had to do with an easement issue, not the union issue.  After issuing permits for MED to dig, the city came back claiming that easements were needed to dig under the sidewalks.  I don't know who's fault that is but it seems like it should have been handled before any permits were given.  Finally, for you buyers out there, the buyer's guide should be ready "soon", although no promises were made as to an exact date.

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Middle Earth turns relics into renovated urban living spaces

BY LISA BERNARD-KUHN | LBERNARD@ENQUIRER.COM

 

CAMP WASHINGTON - You have to know your niche.

 

That's just one of the philosophies behind the continued success of Middle Earth Developers Inc., said Jay Voss, the firm's co-founder and a principal partner.

 

The Camp Washington-based firm has built its reputation by transforming Cincinnati's lingering relics into some of the city's most unique urban living spaces.

 

"You've got to know your niche, and I think we really know how to do edgy, urban residential development," Voss said. "There's nothing better than finding a cool, old building and being able to breathe new life into it."

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070916/BIZ01/709160349/1076/BIZ

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Condo owners sue Middle Earth Developers over ‘depths of hell’ garage

http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2009/06/08/story9.html

 

Condo owners at the Lofts at Graydon Place downtown are feeling cramped. Not in their living quarters, but in the parking garage.

 

They think the underground garage in the 104-year-old building isn’t big enough for 43 parking spaces. That’s how many Middle Earth Developers Inc. marked off and assigned in 2007, almost three years after buyers began moving in.

 

Now owners of 25 units have filed a lawsuit in Hamilton County Common Pleas Court claiming some spaces aren’t accessible and many aren’t big enough to park in if adjacent spaces are occupied. It wants the court to stop Middle Earth from selling two spaces with the last unsold condo unit.

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Jay Voss, a Middle Earth founding principal who was also named as an individual defendant in the lawsuit, left the company about six months ago, Kukla said.

 

I had heard Jay Voss left Middle Earth.  That news cannot be good for the Enquirer building.

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Are there photographs of this mess?

 

I seriously looked at renting a MED unit last year, but just stumbled upon this thread. I'm glad now I didn't, because one of the units I was looking at was in a development that's been affected by their shoddy and cheap construction.

 

Are there any updates to MED properties since 2006?

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I've been in the garage, and it is how they described it in the article.  Very tight to get in, and it does look like they made the spots smaller to get more of them in the garage.

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Middle Earth faces tax problems

By Lisa Bernard-Kuhn, Cincinnati Enquirer, October 19, 2009

 

Camp Washington-based Middle Earth Development Inc. owes Hamilton County more than $51,000 in delinquent taxes on a dozen properties, including several at the firm's recently finished downtown condo development Parker Flats.

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