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42 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

I hope the “extensive” exterior renovations don’t involve painting this beautiful building red and black. 

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1 hour ago, roman totale XVII said:

^Yeah. That looks like a flyer for a gig at The Agora!

 

Or The Chamber...

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Just now, dergon darkhelm said:

And I thought "gluten-free Steampunk" was bad 

 

Let's get inside first and not judge the place off the flyer alone

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13 hours ago, YABO713 said:

 

Let's get inside first and not judge the place off the flyer alone

 

I agree with the first part of your sentence but as a graphic designer, the last part ... is that Swahili?? 😉

 

Hopefully they can make a go of it, I know the restaurant business is tough but that location just seems like it should be a slam dunk.

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1 hour ago, MayDay said:

 

I agree with the first part of your sentence but as a graphic designer, the last part ... is that Swahili?? 😉

 

Hopefully they can make a go of it, I know the restaurant business is tough but that location just seems like it should be a slam dunk.


unfortunately some great locations in Battery Park traditionally haven’t done well

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It's a great location, but within a few blocks you have what I consider to be the best chicken wings (Good Company), tacos (La Plaza via Terrestrial), pizza (Il Rione), and pint of Guiness (Stone Mad) in all of Cleveland, in addition to many other great options.  Location alone won't do it... you have to give people something new or a reason to come back!  On a couple trips to Battery Park Pub, they couldn't even manage to stock the bar properly. 

 

I had heard the previous restaurant (Graffiti) did OK, but the building owners raised rent and it was no longer worth it for the restaurant owner.  The patio is really cool, but I've wondered if they could benefit from opening it up to the neighborhood a bit more... there is currently a tall (and somewhat rickety) wooden fence running around the perimeter, obstructing any views in to / out of the patio.  Here's hoping the flyer is misleading, and they bring some new life to that space. 

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5 hours ago, ML11 said:

I had heard the previous restaurant (Graffiti) did OK, but the building owners raised rent and it was no longer worth it for the restaurant owner.  The patio is really cool, but I've wondered if they could benefit from opening it up to the neighborhood a bit more... there is currently a tall (and somewhat rickety) wooden fence running around the perimeter, obstructing any views in to / out of the patio.  

I remember there being some bad blood between Graffiti and the neighbor with noise complaints, etc. The large fence could've been an attempt toward alleviation.  

 

Anyhow the space reminds me a lot of Jukebox in Hingetown. Maybe the new owners should just copy everything they do lol. 

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On 11/5/2019 at 3:03 PM, surfohio said:

I remember there being some bad blood between Graffiti and the neighbor with noise complaints, etc. The large fence could've been an attempt toward alleviation.  

 

Anyhow the space reminds me a lot of Jukebox in Hingetown. Maybe the new owners should just copy everything they do lol. 

 

The noise complaints from the neighbor have been going on for years.  ... And I have been told that they don't open the patio more that specific reason.

 

Which is too bad because if they could open it up and get more sun ... like a beer garden or something ... it could be something the neighbor lacks.

 

 

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Neighborhood meeting last night to discuss proposed apartments to be built on the currently empty swath of land between w 70th and 73rd st. Apparently Marous is selling the land to  Columbus-based developers (https://www.avenuepartners.com/), who are planning to build a pair of 4-story apartment buildings on the site. The project would include ~250 market-rate units and underground parking, along with some surface parking and a smaller "clubhouse / pool" facility in the NW corner.  It seemed like they had everything in order, though I can't remember what timeline they gave for construction.

 

Additionally, the long-awaited punch-thru street between 70th and 73rd seems ready to go...Matt Zone estimated work would begin on the road by May and complete end of 2020.  

 

Sorry for the blurry projector photos, but I snapped a few at the meeting

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15 minutes ago, ML11 said:

Neighborhood meeting last night to discuss proposed apartments to be built on the currently empty swath of land between w 70th and 73rd st. Apparently Marous is selling the land to  Columbus-based developers (https://www.avenuepartners.com/), who are planning to build a pair of 4-story apartment buildings on the site. The project would include ~250 market-rate units and underground parking, along with some surface parking and a smaller "clubhouse / pool" facility in the NW corner.  It seemed like they had everything in order, though I can't remember what timeline they gave for construction.

 

Additionally, the long-awaited punch-thru street between 70th and 73rd seems ready to go...Matt Zone estimated work would begin on the road by May and complete end of 2020.  

 

Sorry for the blurry projector photos, but I snapped a few at the meeting

This is great news. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to hearing more about this.

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Cool.  This is nice completion/extension of Battery Park.  Surprising to me that it's taken so long.  That old warehouse structure was torn down about 6 years ago when the 73rd interchange was put in.  The Mobile Martin folks relocated several years ago too

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New construction building permits filed today for new buildings on the East side of W 73rd!

There's a 36k sq ft building and a 55k sq ft building. The development also includes a "clubhouse" which I believe is part of the second building.

Here's hoping we get to see some site plans and renderings soon.

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8 hours ago, tykaps said:

New construction building permits filed today for new buildings on the East side of W 73rd!

There's a 36k sq ft building and a 55k sq ft building. The development also includes a "clubhouse" which I believe is part of the second building.

Here's hoping we get to see some site plans and renderings soon.

There’s multiple different proposals for that side of 73rd. Which one is this?  If it’s the Avenue Partners project, this is exciting news. That’ll add some major density and connect 70th to 73rd. 250 units with underground parking. Also means the remaining Mobil Martin building should be coming down soon.

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7 hours ago, marty15 said:

There’s multiple different proposals for that side of 73rd. Which one is this?  If it’s the Avenue Partners project, this is exciting news. That’ll add some major density and connect 70th to 73rd. 250 units with underground parking. Also means the remaining Mobil Martin building should be coming down soon.

It's the Avenue Partners project!

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7 hours ago, Clefan98 said:

There's no way 250 apartments can fit into two structures totaling only 91k sq ft. Must be a typo somewhere..

 

I jokingly was going to say that Geis's micro-units were leaking to the other side of the river. Having done the math, that comes to only 364 square feet per unit, so surely that seemed even smaller than the micro-units...until I looked again and Geis's are evidently only 350 sq ft...

 

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Project plans also include a feature that would be new for Cleveland: micro-units (residential) totaling about 350 square feet.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/05/flats-east-bank-project-moving-forward-with-design-approval-of-riverfront-restaurants-bars.html

 

That is assuming that is the livable footprint of those buildings and not inclusive of mechanicals/hvac/storage/common areas, halls, etc...

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Can someone provide a more accurate number of apartments and/or square footage?

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9 hours ago, Clefan98 said:

There's no way 250 apartments can fit into two structures totaling only 91k sq ft. Must be a typo somewhere..

Wouldn't be the first time the city records had typos lol

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11 hours ago, KJP said:

Can someone provide a more accurate number of apartments and/or square footage?

From what I remember of the meeting, the 250 number is accurate, though I forgot to grab the total sqft they mentioned.  The buildings will feature a number of small-ish units (600-800 square feet), but not micro-units, so I believe the total square footage is wrong.  It's possible that 91K is for just 1 of the buildings... 

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36 minutes ago, ML11 said:

From what I remember of the meeting, the 250 number is accurate, though I forgot to grab the total sqft they mentioned.  The buildings will feature a number of small-ish units (600-800 square feet), but not micro-units, so I believe the total square footage is wrong.  It's possible that 91K is for just 1 of the buildings... 

Something isn't adding up. The nearby Battery Park Lofts has about 100k sq ft and 100-150 units. (I had the exact numbers yesterday but lost them.) 250 units on 91k is not plausible at all, so either the sq footage is wrong or the # units is wrong.

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30 minutes ago, Cavalier Attitude said:

Something isn't adding up. The nearby Battery Park Lofts has about 100k sq ft and 100-150 units. (I had the exact numbers yesterday but lost them.) 250 units on 91k is not plausible at all, so either the sq footage is wrong or the # units is wrong.

It's almost definitely the square footage that's wrong. It's just the numbers that were listed on the city permits online (55k and 36k for the 2 buildings). Those are messed up all the time.

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