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It's a great location, but within a few blocks you have what I consider to be the best chicken wings (Good Company), tacos (La Plaza via Terrestrial), pizza (Il Rione), and pint of Guiness (Stone Mad) in all of Cleveland, in addition to many other great options.  Location alone won't do it... you have to give people something new or a reason to come back!  On a couple trips to Battery Park Pub, they couldn't even manage to stock the bar properly. 

 

I had heard the previous restaurant (Graffiti) did OK, but the building owners raised rent and it was no longer worth it for the restaurant owner.  The patio is really cool, but I've wondered if they could benefit from opening it up to the neighborhood a bit more... there is currently a tall (and somewhat rickety) wooden fence running around the perimeter, obstructing any views in to / out of the patio.  Here's hoping the flyer is misleading, and they bring some new life to that space. 

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5 hours ago, ML11 said:

I had heard the previous restaurant (Graffiti) did OK, but the building owners raised rent and it was no longer worth it for the restaurant owner.  The patio is really cool, but I've wondered if they could benefit from opening it up to the neighborhood a bit more... there is currently a tall (and somewhat rickety) wooden fence running around the perimeter, obstructing any views in to / out of the patio.  

I remember there being some bad blood between Graffiti and the neighbor with noise complaints, etc. The large fence could've been an attempt toward alleviation.  

 

Anyhow the space reminds me a lot of Jukebox in Hingetown. Maybe the new owners should just copy everything they do lol. 

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On 11/5/2019 at 3:03 PM, surfohio said:

I remember there being some bad blood between Graffiti and the neighbor with noise complaints, etc. The large fence could've been an attempt toward alleviation.  

 

Anyhow the space reminds me a lot of Jukebox in Hingetown. Maybe the new owners should just copy everything they do lol. 

 

The noise complaints from the neighbor have been going on for years.  ... And I have been told that they don't open the patio more that specific reason.

 

Which is too bad because if they could open it up and get more sun ... like a beer garden or something ... it could be something the neighbor lacks.

 

 

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Neighborhood meeting last night to discuss proposed apartments to be built on the currently empty swath of land between w 70th and 73rd st. Apparently Marous is selling the land to  Columbus-based developers (https://www.avenuepartners.com/), who are planning to build a pair of 4-story apartment buildings on the site. The project would include ~250 market-rate units and underground parking, along with some surface parking and a smaller "clubhouse / pool" facility in the NW corner.  It seemed like they had everything in order, though I can't remember what timeline they gave for construction.

 

Additionally, the long-awaited punch-thru street between 70th and 73rd seems ready to go...Matt Zone estimated work would begin on the road by May and complete end of 2020.  

 

Sorry for the blurry projector photos, but I snapped a few at the meeting

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15 minutes ago, ML11 said:

Neighborhood meeting last night to discuss proposed apartments to be built on the currently empty swath of land between w 70th and 73rd st. Apparently Marous is selling the land to  Columbus-based developers (https://www.avenuepartners.com/), who are planning to build a pair of 4-story apartment buildings on the site. The project would include ~250 market-rate units and underground parking, along with some surface parking and a smaller "clubhouse / pool" facility in the NW corner.  It seemed like they had everything in order, though I can't remember what timeline they gave for construction.

 

Additionally, the long-awaited punch-thru street between 70th and 73rd seems ready to go...Matt Zone estimated work would begin on the road by May and complete end of 2020.  

 

Sorry for the blurry projector photos, but I snapped a few at the meeting

This is great news. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to hearing more about this.

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Cool.  This is nice completion/extension of Battery Park.  Surprising to me that it's taken so long.  That old warehouse structure was torn down about 6 years ago when the 73rd interchange was put in.  The Mobile Martin folks relocated several years ago too

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New construction building permits filed today for new buildings on the East side of W 73rd!

There's a 36k sq ft building and a 55k sq ft building. The development also includes a "clubhouse" which I believe is part of the second building.

Here's hoping we get to see some site plans and renderings soon.

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8 hours ago, tykaps said:

New construction building permits filed today for new buildings on the East side of W 73rd!

There's a 36k sq ft building and a 55k sq ft building. The development also includes a "clubhouse" which I believe is part of the second building.

Here's hoping we get to see some site plans and renderings soon.

There’s multiple different proposals for that side of 73rd. Which one is this?  If it’s the Avenue Partners project, this is exciting news. That’ll add some major density and connect 70th to 73rd. 250 units with underground parking. Also means the remaining Mobil Martin building should be coming down soon.

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7 hours ago, marty15 said:

There’s multiple different proposals for that side of 73rd. Which one is this?  If it’s the Avenue Partners project, this is exciting news. That’ll add some major density and connect 70th to 73rd. 250 units with underground parking. Also means the remaining Mobil Martin building should be coming down soon.

It's the Avenue Partners project!

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7 hours ago, Clefan98 said:

There's no way 250 apartments can fit into two structures totaling only 91k sq ft. Must be a typo somewhere..

 

I jokingly was going to say that Geis's micro-units were leaking to the other side of the river. Having done the math, that comes to only 364 square feet per unit, so surely that seemed even smaller than the micro-units...until I looked again and Geis's are evidently only 350 sq ft...

 

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Project plans also include a feature that would be new for Cleveland: micro-units (residential) totaling about 350 square feet.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/05/flats-east-bank-project-moving-forward-with-design-approval-of-riverfront-restaurants-bars.html

 

That is assuming that is the livable footprint of those buildings and not inclusive of mechanicals/hvac/storage/common areas, halls, etc...

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Can someone provide a more accurate number of apartments and/or square footage?

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9 hours ago, Clefan98 said:

There's no way 250 apartments can fit into two structures totaling only 91k sq ft. Must be a typo somewhere..

Wouldn't be the first time the city records had typos lol

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11 hours ago, KJP said:

Can someone provide a more accurate number of apartments and/or square footage?

From what I remember of the meeting, the 250 number is accurate, though I forgot to grab the total sqft they mentioned.  The buildings will feature a number of small-ish units (600-800 square feet), but not micro-units, so I believe the total square footage is wrong.  It's possible that 91K is for just 1 of the buildings... 

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36 minutes ago, ML11 said:

From what I remember of the meeting, the 250 number is accurate, though I forgot to grab the total sqft they mentioned.  The buildings will feature a number of small-ish units (600-800 square feet), but not micro-units, so I believe the total square footage is wrong.  It's possible that 91K is for just 1 of the buildings... 

Something isn't adding up. The nearby Battery Park Lofts has about 100k sq ft and 100-150 units. (I had the exact numbers yesterday but lost them.) 250 units on 91k is not plausible at all, so either the sq footage is wrong or the # units is wrong.

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30 minutes ago, Cavalier Attitude said:

Something isn't adding up. The nearby Battery Park Lofts has about 100k sq ft and 100-150 units. (I had the exact numbers yesterday but lost them.) 250 units on 91k is not plausible at all, so either the sq footage is wrong or the # units is wrong.

It's almost definitely the square footage that's wrong. It's just the numbers that were listed on the city permits online (55k and 36k for the 2 buildings). Those are messed up all the time.

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Battery_Park_Apartments_IMG_02.jpg

 

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 15, 2020

Two more apartment buildings coming to Battery Park

 

As first reported here at NEOtrans last month, a Columbus developer is pursuing its first Cleveland real estate project in the Battery Park section of the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood. The site is south of Edgewater Park and north of Gordon Square along West 70th and 73rd streets.

Following the recent leasing success of the 82-unit Battery Park Lofts, the Avenue Partners proposed to construct two large apartment buildings totaling 250 units with underground parking and a separate clubhouse and pool.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/01/two-more-apartment-buildings-coming-to.html

 

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On 11/4/2019 at 5:23 PM, YABO713 said:

 

Let's get inside first and not judge the place off the flyer alone

https://www.wkyc.com/article/life/food/doug-trattner/first-look-at-all-saints-public-house-doug-trattner-reports/95-150209bd-fe22-4a3d-a0c3-90ac65817227

 

 

First Look at All Saints Public House: Doug Trattner reports

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^ Place looks good! Though I wonder how Johnny Kilbane would feel about that British flag outside haha

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On 1/15/2020 at 11:23 AM, KJP said:

Battery_Park_Apartments_IMG_02.jpg

 

WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 15, 2020

Two more apartment buildings coming to Battery Park

 

As first reported here at NEOtrans last month, a Columbus developer is pursuing its first Cleveland real estate project in the Battery Park section of the Detroit-Shoreway neighborhood. The site is south of Edgewater Park and north of Gordon Square along West 70th and 73rd streets.

Following the recent leasing success of the 82-unit Battery Park Lofts, the Avenue Partners proposed to construct two large apartment buildings totaling 250 units with underground parking and a separate clubhouse and pool.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/01/two-more-apartment-buildings-coming-to.html

 

Battery_Park_Apartments_IMG_04.jpg

 

 

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What is the current occupancy rate of the existing Battery Park residences? I'm fine with more if the vacancy rate is low, but I worry it's not.

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Last I checked, Battery Park Lofts was 100% occupied with a waitlist.  And they not cheap.

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21 minutes ago, West153 said:

Last I checked, Battery Park Lofts was 100% occupied with a waitlist.  And they not cheap.

 

1 minute ago, marty15 said:

Yeah, I think everything is full. And all their townhomes sold.

Well thank God.  Now he won't be worried.

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Because of the popularity of housing here, the high rents and the lakefront, I would have preferred something more vertical than 4-5 stories. But perhaps vertical developments can be built west of Battery Park north of Lake Avenue. I see that one of the properties in that area is for sale.

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14 hours ago, Htsguy said:

 

Well thank God.  Now he won't be worried.

You're right, I'm not. A few years ago there were a lot of vacancies, so it's nice to see they have been filled.

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West 73rd Street apartment building proposal that was presented this morning. Not quite Battery Park, but bordering it just south of that development and the other apartment buildings proposed for the area. Edit: 75-77 units proposed

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Looks like sizable balconies with parking hidden. I like it. The split-level touch is nice too. Any word on number of units?  

 

Thinking West 73rd is going to need a stop sign or two added with a few-hundred new residents moving to the currently vacant east side of the street.  

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Whoa. I had no idea there was an apartment building proposed that close to Detroit Ave. At first I thought this was the Casto buildings farther north.

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1 minute ago, KJP said:

Whoa. I had no idea there was an apartment building proposed that close to Detroit Ave. At first I thought this was the Casto buildings farther north.

I believe this is the parcel that was originally going to be clusters of for-sale townhouse units (I think 24 units in total?), but that development group fell apart.   

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22 minutes ago, ML11 said:

Looks like sizable balconies with parking hidden. I like it. The split-level touch is nice too. Any word on number of units?  

 

Thinking West 73rd is going to need a stop sign or two added with a few-hundred new residents moving to the currently vacant east side of the street.  

My bad, forgot to mention. 75-77 units are proposed.

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Very nice. Looks like this will be the first building on that side of the street from Detroit, with only the community garden in between it and the funeral home property on the corner. I'm really liking that more projects are coming with pools now. That's been an amenity alot of places around here have been missing until very recently. I understand the restrains with its location in the site, but it looks like its going to end up being pretty shady in the afternoons, which is a shame and almost a waste.

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The extension of Battery Park Boulevard from West 73rd to West 70th is going out bid with replies due to the city by 11:59 AM on July 15. The bid info says a start date of Aug. 1 but that's an awfully fast contractor mobilization time.

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Permits filed today for the demolition of the J&M International building between 70th and 73rd. Glad to see this all moving fast.

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4 minutes ago, tykaps said:

Permits filed today for the demolition of the J&M International building between 70th and 73rd. Glad to see this all moving fast.

The whole Battery Park area is barely recognizable anymore, in a good way. 

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