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I seriously question how this place is basically vacant. It's literally in a prime spot between the library and E4 around the corner. Another misuse of historical tax credits by greedy absentee owners who have no intention of improving the property?

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Its really not surprising that its mostly vacant, considering the owners had been planning for a hotel conversion.  They wouldn't be marketing towards and leasing up with office users if they were going to be kicking them out for a new use. The hotel market isn't currently as strong as it was in the past, mostly because of the glut of new rooms that have come on line recently, and thus we have a building sitting empty in an otherwise hot corner of town.

 

Also, so nice to have Michelle Jarboe back

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6 hours ago, KJP said:

I saw this transfer earlier today and I'm trying to find out who the buyer is too. No luck so far....

 

 

I've checked every public record I can even think of and still no luck finding anything notable. And the corporation is unfortunately not listed by the Ohio SOS

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^from the article:  "Public filings list a Denver-area phone number for the company, 1900 East 6th Street LLC, and a tax-mailing address that turned out to be a mailbox at a UPS store in Fairview Park."

 

All we have to do ---and we can do this in shifts--is hang out at the UPS store to see who comes in to check the mail and then talk to that person--even if its just a messenger going to collect the mail.

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I've also dug through many public records including the deed transfer and so on and can't identify who the buyer is. So I've resorted to the old fashioned way and called the attorney who prepared the deed transfer (no return call yet) and reached out to a few other people. They don't seem to know either. I'll keep digging. 

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15 hours ago, CCC said:

Good news provided this won’t negatively impact my beloved haunt, <REDACTED>😨☘️

shhhh don't publicize the place lol

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15 hours ago, CCC said:

Good news provided this won’t negatively impact my beloved haunt, Moriarty’s 😨☘️

Losing Ontario Street and Moriarty’s in a short stretch would hurt. Not many old dives left downtown. 

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13 minutes ago, bumsquare said:

Losing Ontario Street and Moriarty’s in a short stretch would hurt. Not many old dives left downtown. 

 
Hopefully Moriarty’s comes under new ownership though. With the current owner at the helm, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it closed in the near future. 

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^ I hope so too. Not been in for a while, but the owner (forget his name right now) was telling me once that IIRC he’s only the second owner the bar’s ever had. He started there as a kid in the 60/70s working for the original owner from the 20/30s and bought it off him. 


And they reckon that the last thing she saw in her life was
Sting, singing on the roof of the Barbican

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Driving this further off topic, the owner's ...nephew (I think?) came in about two or so years ago and was the major force for opening on the weekends and some other stuff. I used to go there more often when I was taking the bus and haven't been in in a while, but from what I could see the owner was giving some of the reigns to his relative.

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Think about this... The day that The Beacon started construction in 2017 to some unknown point in the 2020s, there will have been a continuous and sometimes overlapping string of 20+ story buildings under construction in downtown Cleveland. This assumes that the City Club Apartments start construction late this summer, before the Lumen stops construction. Then the new Sherwin-Williams HQ starts construction, and some other planned buildings out there....

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Any idea what's going on at the old Huron Point Tavern? 

 

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Crains says Exacta Surveyors is moving 60 employees from the "Knights of Columbus" Building (2132 E 9th at Prospect) to the Post Office Plaza.  This makes me think "something" may be happening on the sw corner of Prospect and Ninth.  Brilliant deduction or did I miss something already known?

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/post-office-plaza-lands-tech-property-services-companies

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2 minutes ago, Dougal said:

Crains says Exacta Surveyors is moving 60 employees from the "Knights of Columbus" Building (2132 E 9th at Prospect) to the Post Office Plaza.  This makes me think "something" may be happening on the sw corner of Prospect and Ninth.  Brilliant deduction or did I miss something already known?

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/post-office-plaza-lands-tech-property-services-companies

 

I've heard Bobby George is interested in that building.

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WEWS this week on DCA & the push for more downtown condos...

 

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/originals/while-hundreds-of-apartments-go-up-in-cleveland-dca-pushes-for-more-for-sale-properties

 

 

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Saw some work being done framing? On the corner of the schofield this morning not quite sure what they were doing or if someone is moving in.

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32 minutes ago, RDB said:

Saw some work being done framing? On the corner of the schofield this morning not quite sure what they were doing or if someone is moving in.

Moving into the retail space?

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7 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said:

Moving into the retail space?

They were working in between the retail space and the hotel/Parker’s entrance and I didn’t look too long so I can’t exactly say what they were doing.

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About a year ago someone posted that an at&t store was moving in. But I haven't heard anything since. The problem is with some of these spaces they over value them on purpose and probably take a loss if they remain empty. Last time I checked they wanted like $85 dollars a sq. ft. Which is crazy.

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15 minutes ago, freethink said:

About a year ago someone posted that an at&t store was moving in. But I haven't heard anything since. The problem is with some of these spaces they over value them on purpose and probably take a loss if they remain empty. Last time I checked they wanted like $85 dollars a sq. ft. Which is crazy.

If they take a loss you would think they would do everything in their power to get someone in there. Strange. 

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On 2/13/2020 at 6:00 AM, ExPatClevGuy said:

 

The article started out well enough, then went off the rails at the end.

 

"Brickhaus Partners' 95 Lake, located near Edgewater Park, is one of the closest "for sale" projects to downtown."

 

How did Brickhaus get in an article about for-sale units downtown? Besides that, there's a bunch of new construction townhome and single family homes for-sale closer to downtown than this.

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10 hours ago, tykaps said:

I really like that Knez guy. He's doing urban stuff in Akron too. I thought it was pronounced Nezz not Ka-nezz. You learn something new everyday.

 

Some of the designs are mediocre though, but they have an opening for an architect on the website. I do interiors, or I'd apply and come back to Ohio. Get an UrbanOhioan Architect in that company and take it up a notch!!

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@metrocity redirected here...

8 hours ago, metrocity said:

We had a conversation on a thread once. But I can't find the thread. I had been to an event in Chicago where Flats Chicago said they were venturing out of Chicago with their first project in another city, and it was Cleveland. They were known as Cedar Street too.  The company website is https://www.cedarst.com/

 

Website looks to be under some changes. The one original guy from Flats Chicago died and he was on a Bravo reality show called 100 days of summer. 

 

 

 

I'm told Cedar Street Properties may not be done with Cleveland when they're done with Church+State. Word is they're looking for projects and possibly partners for developing in downtown or nearby. A one-source rumor is that they want to build a high-rise downtown.

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Die parking lots, die!

 

 

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I am loving the idea of more condos in downtown instead of apartments, but the "modern" look is just so tiring to me.  I wish we could get some builders in Cleveland that do some of the things that DT Columbus has going on, the more traditional and classic Brownstone type style.  https://www.trulia.com/p/oh/columbus/230-e-gay-st-g23-columbus-oh-43215--2097062243

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41 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

 

How awesome would it be seeing a Downtown Loop Streetcar / Waterfront Line Extension making the turn at that intersection?  That would create a superior method for those "Project Site" residents to get to work, and an easy way for anyone near a Rapid station to get to classes at Tri-C (or CSU).

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14 minutes ago, Enginerd said:

Maybe the city can start by updating their website from 1994.

 

Well one can only do so much with Netscape 1.0, and since Hizzoner's favorite nephew is an expert on same....

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1 hour ago, Enginerd said:

Maybe the city can start by updating their website from 1994.

A free wix site is better than the City of Cleveland site 😂

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Where the city of Cleveland's building permits and the values for them were filed in 2019:

 

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Cleveland ward map:

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@Enginerd It was a pre-2010 map which I've since replaced

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11 minutes ago, KJP said:

Where the city of Cleveland's building permits and the values for them were filed in 2019:

 

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Where's the permits chart from? I'll see if I can juxtapose something in there with the Cleveland Wards.

 

I know it wasn't your intention on the original post, but here's a map that I put together based on 2017 internet data. From what I understand ISP's can cook the books pretty hard on the Form 477 data. If ONE person on the street has the download speeds that the government is asking for, it counts as covering the entire street...

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Source:

 

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12 minutes ago, KJP said:

Source:

 

 

Thanks Ken, let me see what I can cook up around lunchtime.

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1 hour ago, GISguy said:

 

Thanks Ken, let me see what I can cook up around lunchtime.

 

As promised, @KJP

 

Symbolized from low (blue) to high (red) permit numbers. The numbers represent how many permits there were filed in 2019.

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And by value of permits:

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PS I can provide higher resolution if need be- just trying to reduce my uploads on here!

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