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3 minutes ago, Frmr CLEder said:

 


@KJP has noted several times that the high cost of taller buildings if putting R&D on the Weston lots makes it cost inhibitive for such a conservative organization. 
 

^^ that digital argument makes my double down on my cyber security risk > physical risk argument. Corporate espionage can happen just as easily in Brecksville in 2020 than it can downtown. 

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On 1/18/2020 at 4:14 PM, LlamaLawyer said:

Is there any inherent reason the R&D couldn’t be on the Weston site too? If the site for the R&D is truly up in the air, then I would hope the city is pitching this idea to SHW too and at least talking about what kind of incentives could make it happen. 
 

This is all assuming SHW isn’t just trying to get a better deal from the city (which would be smart on SHW’s part and unsurprising).

 

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On 1/18/2020 at 4:33 PM, KJP said:

Because putting the R&D on the Weston lots means building a taller, more expensive tower on the Jacobs lot. It's cheaper to put the R&D elsewhere. 

 

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43 minutes ago, jws said:

I wish this could have gone on the Weston site at Madison and Berea.

 

Glidden used to have a field of paint samples facing southwest at Berea and W117th. There's precedent.

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13 minutes ago, Dougal said:

 

Glidden used to have a field of paint samples facing southwest at Berea and W117th. There's precedent.

The former Glidden property along Berea is still very much an active site owned by NPA Coatings, too. Weston doesn't appear to have anyone in Phase I of the Midland site, but I doubt SW would want to move into someone else's office park-style building. Not sure what potential there would be to takeover the remaining Phase II.

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On 1/22/2020 at 1:43 PM, E Rocc said:

 

No affinity, but geese and ganders come to mind.

 

To have a strong region, the core needs to be strong. While the region has improved over the past 10-20 years, we're still more "donut" than we should be when it comes to residential and commercial density in the center and then reducing as you move out from that center. So it's not hypocritical to say "stealing" a certain number of jobs from Cleveland to the suburbs is bad but Cleveland stealing jobs from the suburbs is good. It's helping correct the lopsidedness of the region.

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👆🏻Correct. Cleveland is the “brain” of the region, and instead of treating it like an actual head injury, we keep on thinking that moisturizing the extremities will somehow fix the core problem. it doesn’t make any sense, and the continued competition between the “brain” (Cleveland) and the “body” (the 38 other cities that surround it) will just further diminish the entire region. if the Cleveland area was a doctor that was responsible for the management of CTE, we would currently making sure Aaron Hernandez was icing his quads. In order for the body to survive, the brain has to be healthy and functional, not the other way around. 

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That's enough metaphors to last a month!

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I’m in grad school. I can only speak in metaphor! But that is to say, Cleveland needs to do everything in its power to lure the R&D to the city limits because the region will suffer if more potential jobs end up in the burbs. 

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There's a fiscally conservative argument for steering development within the traditional, centralized the area where huge infrastructural investments have already been made. Then again I suppose the other side of the argument would be that it doesn't make sense to re-invest somewhere where corruption or ineptitude makes the investment a bad one. 

 

SHW's decision, when it all comes to fruition someday, will be fascinating to really look at more in-depth. There's just so many angles to consider. 

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Brecksville, DiGeronimo fine-tune big development plan

 

Brecksville Mayor Jerry Hruby in an email said he is in discussions with "several companies" for possible investments in the suburb 13 miles south of downtown Cleveland, but that Sherwin-Williams is not among them.

 

Asked if he was in talks with representatives of Sherwin-Williams or others working on its behalf in that site-selection process, Hruby wrote in a follow-up email, "If you can not accept my previous answer, I am sorry."

 

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/brecksville-digeronimo-fine-tune-big-development-plan

 

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Not there yet. But they're getting closer to a new R&D home.....

 

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2 hours ago, inlovewithCLE said:

In Cleveland proper or the suburbs?

 

Stay tuned. Article coming soon. 😉 

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13 minutes ago, Frmr CLEder said:

Thanks KJP!

I may be 1244 miles away, but still have the pulse on my hometown.

You should move back home  -    We need all the people that left Cleveland for Greener Pastures to come back home.

( Texas, Florida, Carolinas, California, Denver, Seattle, Columbus , ETC ETC ETC.

Man we probably could substantially increase our population if we brought back everyone. 

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MONDAY, JANUARY 27, 2020

Sherwin-Williams seeks Bedrock site for R&D

 

It seems that Sherwin-Williams' (SHW) new research and development (R&D) facility may not wander far from home after all, according to three high-level sources who asked not to be identified.

In light of SHW executives wanting the new R&D facility to be built as close as possible to their company's new headquarters (HQ), the global coatings giant is reportedly in negotiations with Bedrock Cleveland and its lawyers at Taft Stettinius & Hollister LLP to secure land for its R&D site.

That site, which SHW had previously considered as the runner-up for its expanded and consolidated HQ facilities, is located between Tower City Center and the Cuyahoga River. It was previously considered for Bedrock's phase two casino but Bedrock has since been exiting the casino business.

There, on 19.6 acres of land it owns, Bedrock plans to build the riverfront phase of its CityBlock development featuring a mix of offices, a hotel, apartment towers and possibly SHW's R&D facility.

 

MORE:

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/01/a-conceptual-massing-of-bedrocks.html

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This is pretty exciting...  originally so many of us were torn between Weston/Jacobs or Bedrock site and which would be more transformational.  If this goes through we hopefully get something that is a little bit of the best of both worlds!

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This is the perfect spot. Maybe they can do a land swap. Bedrock gets the Landmark building to do a residential conversion. Seeing their work on the May Co., I’d love to see that happen. Everyone wins, and the CBD will be closer to getting built out. 

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I can see SHW swapping its Breen property for Bedrock's upper parking lot for Tower City. But I can't see SHW trading its Landmark Building for anything other than a big pile of cash. FWIW, Millennia bought the slightly larger 925 Euclid for $40 million.

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That kinda sucks. Bedrock site would have been a great alternative. Is the job gain in Cleveland proper now a wash compared to what's here now? Even though we will potentially gain new HQ jobs losing those R&D jobs seems like it cancels that out.

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1 minute ago, simplythis said:

Is it possible that channel 3 has the story wrong. 

 

Doubtful.  It says sources (more than one) and I haven't known channel 3 to put out something like this if it weren't true.

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