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these are from last april -- i lost a bunch unfortunately, waah, but anyway -- have a look!




 

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caplin house (frederick fisher,1979)


 

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norton beach house (frank gehry, 1984) 


 

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marina del rey


 

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*** i hope you enjoyed the lazy hang around venice beach ***




 

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those utility poles are so ugly.  

 

I didn't realize so many people were tossing scooters into the water.  I've heard and seen them on the highway.

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^ yep there are so many scooters cluttering venice streets and sidewalks the people have rebelled and are tossing them in the water.

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12 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

^ yep there are so many scooters cluttering venice streets and sidewalks the people have rebelled and are tossing them in the water.


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i don't blame people, they have really junked up the streets and sidewalks around there and relatively few people seem to use them.

 

well, ok you shouldn't do that, but what did all those e-scooter companies expect was going to happen?

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Thanks for that!


"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

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It's definitely one of the unique parts of LA.  Is some sort of historic zoning preventing the replacement of the buildings along the beach with something more substantial?  When I was there in September I noticed some new homes, but the core 3-4 blocks facing the beach appeared to be unchanged.  All it would take is replacement of one of those with some sort of mega-development and it would all be over. 

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California Coastal Commission probably kills everything.


"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

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45 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

California Coastal Commission probably kills everything.

 

It's crazy how almost nothing is untouched from LA south until you get around Torrence, where there is maybe 1,000 feet of protected natural coastline (Palos Verdes?), which illustrates just how un-spectacular Southern California was in its natural state when the Spanish (thinly) settled the area. 

 

Then the development starts right back up and continues for another 20~ miles until...Camp Pendleton, where there is no development for 15+ miles. 

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11 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

It's definitely one of the unique parts of LA.  Is some sort of historic zoning preventing the replacement of the buildings along the beach with something more substantial?  When I was there in September I noticed some new homes, but the core 3-4 blocks facing the beach appeared to be unchanged.  All it would take is replacement of one of those with some sort of mega-development and it would all be over. 

California has done a pretty good job of maintaining beach access. Any major development project is going to be under strict scrutiny from the Coastal Commission. 

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i dk about it being crazy, all long coastline stretches have that.

 

overall almost all of the pac coastline is very spectacular. its america's riviera. and it truly is. include north up to sf/seattle/vancouver and south down to sd/baja. then pick anywhere and go -- the whole north american pac coast is all highly recommended for driving and hanging out. it's just about the best thing ever to do as far as vacations.

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^Except there are only a handful of natural ports: San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle/Tacoma.  Long Beach was a very small natural harbor.  The complete opposite of the east coast in that regard which is home to almost innumerable natural ports - many minor ports in addition to the major ones at Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Norfolk, Charleston, Savannah, and Miami.  Plus there is Tampa, New Orleans, Galveston, Brownsville, and a dozen other minor ports on the Gulf Coast.  

 

California really is crap land with a crap coast compared the eastern United States.  It only acquired a lot of utilitarian use with great works of engineering, especially bringing water into Southern California and the Central Valley.  

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 Plus there is Tampa, New Orleans, Galveston, Brownsville, and a dozen other minor ports on the Gulf Coast.

 

California really is crap land with a crap coast compared the eastern United States.  It only acquired a lot of utilitarian use with great works of engineering, especially bringing water into Southern California and the Central Valley.  

 

 

You trying to make me jealous of Galveston and Brownsville? 

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11 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

^Except there are only a handful of natural ports: San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle/Tacoma.  Long Beach was a very small natural harbor.  The complete opposite of the east coast in that regard which is home to almost innumerable natural ports - many minor ports in addition to the major ones at Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Norfolk, Charleston, Savannah, and Miami.  Plus there is Tampa, New Orleans, Galveston, Brownsville, and a dozen other minor ports on the Gulf Coast.  

 

California really is crap land with a crap coast compared the eastern United States.  It only acquired a lot of utilitarian use with great works of engineering, especially bringing water into Southern California and the Central Valley.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

and it didn't matter because the west wasn't developed mainly through port cities like the east was. you might as well say, for example, why is there a northwest ohio today when it was all the useless black swamp? there is no question the west coast and the natural beauty along there were going to attract development from top to bottom. and so it has. in fact it has some of the most valuable and protected coastal land on earth. also, there is plenty of beach access, its just not always obvious and visible at sea level as the east coast almost entirely is. of course funny enough shipping in los angeles is like its biggest industry these days and i think its even the biggest in the country, if not the world.

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It is the busiest container port but not even close by gross weight:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ports_in_the_United_States

 

Ocean-going freighters can sail up the Mississippi as far as Baton Rouge.  There are many cargo transfer points along those 100+ miles.  A lot of raw material is transferred from ocean freighters to river barges and then the barges are shipped as far north as Minnesota, as far east as Pittsburgh, and along the Gulf Coast from Brownsville east to the Florida Panhandle.  

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of course things might have been very, very different in west coast history if china had kept up its ming dynasty fleet -- they were already trading with india and africa by 1400.

 

if anyone hasn't seen it -- here is a general zheng he ming dynasty ship vs a columbus ship.

 

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