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17 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

 

So the Second Lady has made a conscious decision to teach at a school with a gay ban? Such a terrible message to send.

Well her husband hates gays and has done everything to derail any type of equality.  If it was up to him, gays marriage would be over turned.

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41 minutes ago, MyTwoSense said:

Well her husband hates gays and has done everything to derail any type of equality.  If it was up to him, gays marriage would be over turned.

ReLIgiOus FrEedoM

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On 9/27/2019 at 1:53 PM, DarkandStormy said:

 

It is:

 

Virginia Girl Recants Story of Boys Cutting Off Her Dreadlocks

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/us/dreadlocks-cut-girl-virginia-school.html

 

...The police said they were investigating. The girl and her family gave interviews to TV networks and newspapers.

But in a matter of days, the story fell apart.

 

On Monday, the school announced that the girl had admitted the story was a lie, and that her family had apologized.

 

Seemingly more often than not, in recent years, stories like this turn out to be completely made up. I don't know why the New York Times, CNN, et. al. keep falling for it. They need to do a much better job of due diligence and not report stories that cannot be confirmed with facts. Stories like this one are why terms like "fake news" resonate with the public.

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Yep, although you prefaced it with 'seemingly,' it would help to cite contextually relevant statistics for that claim.   I feel the same way for people saying things like the racist incidents are increasing, as well.  That said, I thought this was fake when I read about it.  There's a caricature of white men / kids that has made its way around the internet and apparently even young children are susceptible/witness to it, as her narrative was closely aligned.  And I'll accept that I have no objective data on that, so am open to have it countered.  I think we saw the same thing with black men / kids and how the caricature that was/is used for them - these are the types of things that show the damage it can do when we use prejudice and stereotypes so openly.

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Some high profile racial abuse fictions - Tawana Brawley, the Duke kids, Jessie Smollett, Tajiri Henson, the lady from Parthers - come to mind.

 

How do they keep getting off scott free??

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Not surprising for a racist country that didn't get rid of slavery until as recently as the 1860s, until it had to declare war on itself and until it had to slaughter 2 percent of the nation's population in order to give up such inhumanity....

 

 


"Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you Buddy? It's the free market. And you're a part of it." -- Gordon Gekko.

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"Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you Buddy? It's the free market. And you're a part of it." -- Gordon Gekko.

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All thanks to a show on HBO.


"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

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24 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

 

I think this kind of thing was pretty common in the early 20th Century.  I remember reading some article about something like this in, I believe, St. Louis.

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While it was common, Tulsa's was significant due it being "Black Wall Street," the wealthiest black community in America at that time.  It'd be like if residential Queens, suburban Atlanta/DC, or Baldwin Hills suddenly were bombed and burned.


"You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers

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17 minutes ago, freefourur said:

This is a great thread. A lot of information that i wasn't fully aware of. 

 

History has always been one of my favorite topics.  Not the Disneyfied, abbreviated version of it you get in school, but the gritty, holy crap that really happened reality that was.  The fact that so many people have no idea this stuff happened, and how the consequences continue to reverberate today, is a tragedy.  It also puts all the "F Yeah, America!  Freedom!" stuff in a really uncomfortable position.  

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3 hours ago, jonoh81 said:

 

History has always been one of my favorite topics.  Not the Disneyfied, abbreviated version of it you get in school, but the gritty, holy crap that really happened reality that was.  The fact that so many people have no idea this stuff happened, and how the consequences continue to reverberate today, is a tragedy.  It also puts all the "F Yeah, America!  Freedom!" stuff in a really uncomfortable position.  

 

Yet another reason why going to war with the South was a waste of lives, money and time. The USA might have taken the edge off of some of their murderous behaviors. But they want to hate, not assimilate. Worse, they've poisoned the North with their hate. I realize the North wasn't a bastion of racial harmony, but I believe the North's intolerant regions have been emboldened by the South's determined racism.


"Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you Buddy? It's the free market. And you're a part of it." -- Gordon Gekko.

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This is a nazi trying in vain to sound like a victim....

 

 

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"Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you Buddy? It's the free market. And you're a part of it." -- Gordon Gekko.

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7 minutes ago, KJP said:

This is a nazi trying in vain to sound like a victim....

 

 

 

I don't wish death on people, but let's just say I can't wait for these gross old coots to go and leave the world better for it.

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^ do you ever notice that when white men complain about losing rights, those rights always have to do with them not being allowed to be mean to other people?

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12 hours ago, freefourur said:

^ do you ever notice that when white men complain about losing rights, those rights always have to do with them not being allowed to be mean to other people?

 

And then hide behind "it's just my opinion, free speech!"  As if that has anything to do with why people were being critical.

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9 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

And then hide behind "it's just my opinion, free speech!"  As if that has anything to do with why people were being critical.

 

Criticizing my opinion is PC.

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13 hours ago, KJP said:

This is a nazi trying in vain to sound like a victim....

 

 

 

The "queer" that is running for President is white....this stupid line of thinking doesn't even stand up to the most basic of logic tests.


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Discovered the twitter of my parents' councilman in Parma Heights. He has retweeted "white genocide" Steve King and regularly likes tweets from Bill Mitchell (QAnon believer who thinks Trump has a decret DOJ division silently arresting all democratic leaders for running a child sex ring), Mike Cernovich, and Kaitlin Bennet (GunGirl from Kent State), among many others. 

 

I commented on Cleveland.com's local page regarding the council race merely providing the twitter link and asking voters to look - it's been deleted. Tried reposting it with just the link and the caption - Parma Heights voters should see this - and that's been deleted 4x. 

 

I tried writing a letter to the editor, but they would not accept my submission. All information I included is public and not hyperbolic (his twitter link, his lack of employment, and his mortgage foreclosure). Not really sure what to do. I want Republicans on local councils - just not ones with the intellectual capacity of a cucumber. 

 

Sorry if this is the wrong thread - but his likes and retweets were beyond racist. 

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1 minute ago, YABO713 said:

Discovered the twitter of my parents' councilman in Parma Heights. He has retweeted "white genocide" Steve King and regularly likes tweets from Bill Mitchell (QAnon believer who thinks Trump has a decret DOJ division silently arresting all democratic leaders for running a child sex ring), Mike Cernovich, and Kaitlin Bennet (GunGirl from Kent State), among many others. 

 

I commented on Cleveland.com's local page regarding the council race merely providing the twitter link and asking voters to look - it's been deleted. Tried reposting it with just the link and the caption - Parma Heights voters should see this - and that's been deleted 4x. 

 

I tried writing a letter to the editor, but they would not accept my submission. All information I included is public and not hyperbolic (his twitter link, his lack of employment, and his mortgage foreclosure). Not really sure what to do. I want Republicans on local councils - just not ones with the intellectual capacity of a cucumber. 

 

But remember the media is liberal. 

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12 minutes ago, freefourur said:

 

But remember the media is liberal. 

 

That's a story for another day - 

 

But a cartel overthrew the Mexican military in a city of 780,000 and a Dem Congresswoman has a nude picture leaked of her brushing the hair of a female staffer with which she was having an affair and those are both backpage stories. 

 

Nonetheless, we could take that to another thread

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7 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

That's a story for another day - 

 

But a cartel overthrew the Mexican military in a city of 780,000 and a Dem Congresswoman has a nude picture leaked of her brushing the hair of a female staffer with which she was having an affair and those are both backpage stories. 

 

Nonetheless, we could take that to another thread

 

I'm not following your point here.  How does what happens in Mexico relate to political bias in American media?  Also, I tend to think the private relationships of politicians and the like are not big news versus actual corruption and policy.  I don't care that Trump had multiple affairs, for example.  I care that he broke the law trying to cover them up.  

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1 minute ago, jonoh81 said:

 

I'm not following your point here.  How does what happens in Mexico relate to political bias in American media?  Also, I tend to think the private relationships of politicians and the like are not big news versus actual corruption and policy.  I don't care that Trump had multiple affairs, for example.  I care that he broke the law trying to cover them up.  

 

Have you read Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent"?

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7 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

Have you read Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent"?

 

No I haven''t.  Fill me in.

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9 minutes ago, jonoh81 said:

 

No I haven''t.  Fill me in.

 

A bit too lengthy on we'd have to move it to another thread - but 30,000 foot view. Chomsky analyzes how media coverage in the US of domestic and foreign issues is manipulated and selectively chosen to conform to messaging on point with the money that funds it. In particular, he looks at the way atrocities in Central America were covered in the 1980s by US media when committed by pro-Soviet insurgencies versus U.S. backed forces. In particular - clergy were killed by both sides, but he analyzes how anti-Communist sentiment in our media covered the killings by Commie guerillas at an exponentially higher rate than when committed by US backed commandos. 

 

It's extremely interesting and, imo that dynamic in US media has shifted to the center-left today from the center-right in the 1980s. I'd highly recommend the read and, FWIW, Chomsky himself is a socialist. 

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22 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

A bit too lengthy on we'd have to move it to another thread - but 30,000 foot view. Chomsky analyzes how media coverage in the US of domestic and foreign issues is manipulated and selectively chosen to conform to messaging on point with the money that funds it. In particular, he looks at the way atrocities in Central America were covered in the 1980s by US media when committed by pro-Soviet insurgencies versus U.S. backed forces. In particular - clergy were killed by both sides, but he analyzes how anti-Communist sentiment in our media covered the killings by Commie guerillas at an exponentially higher rate than when committed by US backed commandos. 

 

It's extremely interesting and, imo that dynamic in US media has shifted to the center-left today from the center-right in the 1980s. I'd highly recommend the read and, FWIW, Chomsky himself is a socialist. 

 

Okay, well that there is a double standard in the way actions of our adversaries- or even allies- on foreign soil are examined versus our own, is unsurprising. But I'm not sure how that would necessarily constitute a liberal bias within the media.  If anything, I've found liberals to be much more critical of US actions on foreign soil, and I'm not sure that's significantly changed in recent decades.  That's certainly been true since Vietnam.  

 

As for the Mexico incident in Culiacan, I saw that story on multiple different news websites pretty prominently, so I'm not even sure I agree with your base point that it was ignored.  I believe even Ohio newspaper sites had it.  BTW, the cartels didn't overthrow the military, exactly.  The military just botched the entire mission and ended up giving in, which is extraordinarily common in Mexico.  The federal government there is pretty much useless, not least of which because so many are on the take.  AMLO's government is, so far, at another level of incompetence, even compared to Mexico's long history of awful administrations.  Turns out populists make bad presidents in Mexico too.

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I don't think Biden is a racist-he may have said some things that were poorly worded or supported viewpoints that I did not agree with but I do not think he is a hard core racist a-hole like Trump. (since I could not defend myself in the thread that got closed).

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