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I was surprised yesterday at how many places are not open for lunch on Sunday around Euclid Ave., even with a home Browns game.  I knew Cleveland Pickle would be closed since they are M-F for lunch only, but I expected Potbelly and Jimmy Johns to be open, and both were closed all day on Sunday.  At least Presto, which is normally closed on Sundays, stayed open for the Browns game.

 

The Potbelly on Monument Circle in Indianapolis is open 7 days a week and has live music, but Indianapolis has less downtown employees and far less downtown residents than Cleveland (and I'm assuming less tourism, especially without a casino or a Rock Hall), so I'm not sure what the reason is for the lame hours.

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I have found the same thing with Sunday dinner downtown. I've had 2 out of town guests in on a sunday over the past 6 months and we basically had to go to Greenhouse Tavern as they were the only ones open.

 

All the chains are open on Sundays, which is primarily what we have in my suburban location, as well as places like B Spot, Rosewood Grill, etc.

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I was surprised yesterday at how many places are not open for lunch on Sunday around Euclid Ave., even with a home Browns game.  I knew Cleveland Pickle would be closed since they are M-F for lunch only, but I expected Potbelly and Jimmy Johns to be open, and both were closed all day on Sunday.  At least Presto, which is normally closed on Sundays, stayed open for the Browns game.

 

The Potbelly on Monument Circle in Indianapolis is open 7 days a week and has live music, but Indianapolis has less downtown employees and far less downtown residents than Cleveland (and I'm assuming less tourism, especially without a casino or a Rock Hall), so I'm not sure what the reason is for the lame hours.

 

Potbelly's has been slowly expanding their hours.  When they first opened it was only 11-7, after about 1 month they included breakfast and are now 7-7.  Obviously that is not an indication that they will be moving to weekend hours, but just an observation of what they did previously.

 

I think the bigger issue is still the critical mass factor.  That and inconsistent visitors coming into that area. 

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Chicken-egg. If I had a 3rd visitor coming to town and didn't feel like going to GHT, I would purposely take them other than downtown because so much is closed. I think the mass is increasing but the businesses are not responding/changing quickly enough, particularly independents because they really want to be closed that one day a week. Try finding a place to eat dinner in Ohio City on a Monday, for example. I honestly think indies are going to have to let go of that desire to be closed one full day a week if they want to compete evenly. Everyone needs a day off, to be sure, but staff up so that there are enough people to do that.

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I agree it's chicken-and-egg and I don't think critical mass makes sense either.  There is a ton more places open on a Sunday in Indianapolis than in Cleveland, and they have less population downtown and Cleveland feels busier (more people around).

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Chicken-egg. If I had a 3rd visitor coming to town and didn't feel like going to GHT, I would purposely take them other than downtown because so much is closed. I think the mass is increasing but the businesses are not responding/changing quickly enough, particularly independents because they really want to be closed that one day a week. Try finding a place to eat dinner in Ohio City on a Monday, for example. I honestly think indies are going to have to let go of that desire to be closed one full day a week if they want to compete evenly. Everyone needs a day off, to be sure, but staff up so that there are enough people to do that.

 

I can't really bemoan a place that is successful and wants to close one day a week.  It does suck that everywhere downtown has chosen Sunday to be that day though.  Start requesting them to be open more, who knows maybe the Owner/GM will have finally received enough requests that they will follow through. 

 

Onto some restaurant news: on my walk from Tower City to work there was actual work being done at Mirch Masala's.  The door was open but I couldn't see any action.  I did hear real construction equipment and everything from there though.  Who knows maybe something will actually happen instead of just changing the "coming soon" sign in a couple months.

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I agree it's chicken-and-egg and I don't think critical mass makes sense either.  There is a ton more places open on a Sunday in Indianapolis than in Cleveland, and they have less population downtown and Cleveland feels busier (more people around).

 

Are we sure Cleveland has a higher downtown population than Indianapolis? What are the Indianapolis numbers?

 

And Indianapolis does have far better downtown retail which might help the restaurant scene stay open on Sundays.

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Are we sure Cleveland has a higher downtown population than Indianapolis? What are the Indianapolis numbers?

 

Hey gang I would be careful before taking ClevelandOhio's bait and going down this path in this thread.  May Day's ax has been pretty sharp lately.  This is a Cleveland thread and not a Cincy thread where you apparently can discuss any thing over and over in any thread (you should take a peek at the Streetcar thread...the only this not discussed in that is the whether the earth was created in seven days).

 

 

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For the record, Cleveland Pickle and Potbelly are both open for lunch on Saturdays.  That's already a great improvement over what was available before they opened.

 

Also, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with RnR's comment about GHT being the only place open on Sundays for dinner.  We've been several places for Sunday dinner including Taza and Brgr9, among others.  It's definitely the "deadest" day, but there are plenty of things open.

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^ that is very puzzling considering those jj and pb are big chains.

 

we just got a potbelly down the block on w14th st and its open all the time. i know, i know...but thats all i got.

i like potbelly more than i thought i would even tho you can get more sandwich at any deli or grocery deli for less $.

 

 

 

 

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For the record, Cleveland Pickle and Potbelly are both open for lunch on Saturdays.  That's already a great improvement over what was available before they opened.

 

I saw Cleveland Pickle open last Saturday as I had organized a newsletter labeling party in our office conference room. I was happy to see they had a good crowd at lunchtime, which was almost as active as their weekday lunchtime.

 

But I went to lunch in Tremont, at Tremont Scoops. I was disappointed that we were in the only ones in there. Especially since the food was tasty. I had the Barbeque Chicken Wrap combo with the tomato bisque soup. Perhaps people think Scoops offers only ice cream. They offer more, see: http://www.tremontscoops.com/


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I was looking at the hours for the downtown Subways after walking by the one on East 9th and seeing how busy it was at 8pm last night. According to their website, there's a new Subway coming to the Southworth Building. I assume this will be in the old Sushi 86 spot.

 

Also, I noticed many Subways downtown are open until 10pm. I'm not a big Subway eater, but it's nice to see places staying open after 6pm.

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thx for the info about Taza and Brgr 9.

 

No problem :).  There are many others open too - just check websites before heading out.  The great thing about Sundays is that you don't always even need a reservation, and you get much better wait staff attention!

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I was looking at the hours for the downtown Subways after walking by the one on East 9th and seeing how busy it was at 8pm last night. According to their website, there's a new Subway coming to the Southworth Building. I assume this will be in the old Sushi 86 spot.

 

Also, I noticed many Subways downtown are open until 10pm. I'm not a big Subway eater, but it's nice to see places staying open after 6pm.

 

That is where Mirch Masala was supposed to go, but would not surprise me if it became a Subway.  Especially seen as that spot always had some restaurant "coming soon".  Also, that would explain why it appears there is finally construction happening there.

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Open a cafe by Virginia-Marti College...why didn't I think of that? From the fine folks of Barroco:

 

Helvetica Opens its Doors on Detroit Avenue

 

Grand opening slated for Friday at the new café.

By Colin McEwen

 

The owners of Helvetica — the new, design-inspired café on Detroit Avenue — had hoped for a "soft opening" on Wednesday.

 

It was anything but soft.

 

As soon as the doors opened, at 7 a.m., customers streamed in.

 

The rush didn’t let up until the café closed in the early afternoon. At times, every seat was taken.

 

It's not really too big a surprise. After all, the café's Facebook page had nearly 500 "likes" before a single customer had been served.

 

“We were expecting it to go soft,” said a laughing co-owner Edward Padilla, “that’s why we called it a soft opening.”

 

The owners said word spread quickly of the highly anticipated café — with its Latin American juice selection, Rising Star coffee and food options that include sandwiches, soups and salads.

 

“You’ve got to see the crepes,” said co-owner Juan Vergara. “They’re amazing.”

 

http://lakewood-oh.patch.com/articles/look-helvetica-opens-its-doors-on-detroit-avenue#photo-11770770

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Mentor Melt has the signs in the windows, the outside looks close to done.

 

Opening day is, as I expected, after Halloween.  November 2.

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Open a cafe by Virginia-Marti College...why didn't I think of that? From the fine folks of Barroco:

 

Helvetica Opens its Doors on Detroit Avenue

 

Grand opening slated for Friday at the new café.

By Colin McEwen

 

The owners of Helvetica — the new, design-inspired café on Detroit Avenue — had hoped for a "soft opening" on Wednesday.

 

It was anything but soft.

 

As soon as the doors opened, at 7 a.m., customers streamed in.

 

The rush didn’t let up until the café closed in the early afternoon. At times, every seat was taken.

 

It's not really too big a surprise. After all, the café's Facebook page had nearly 500 "likes" before a single customer had been served.

 

“We were expecting it to go soft,” said a laughing co-owner Edward Padilla, “that’s why we called it a soft opening.”

 

The owners said word spread quickly of the highly anticipated café — with its Latin American juice selection, Rising Star coffee and food options that include sandwiches, soups and salads.

 

“You’ve got to see the crepes,” said co-owner Juan Vergara. “They’re amazing.”

 

http://lakewood-oh.patch.com/articles/look-helvetica-opens-its-doors-on-detroit-avenue#photo-11770770

 

Nice.  A little Colombian flavor in Lakewood.

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^ yeah thats great news --- so fitting because there are a lot of columbians and south americans living on the westside.

 

I was looking at the hours for the downtown Subways after walking by the one on East 9th and seeing how busy it was at 8pm last night. According to their website, there's a new Subway coming to the Southworth Building. I assume this will be in the old Sushi 86 spot.

 

Also, I noticed many Subways downtown are open until 10pm. I'm not a big Subway eater, but it's nice to see places staying open after 6pm.

 

That is where Mirch Masala was supposed to go, but would not surprise me if it became a Subway.  Especially seen as that spot always had some restaurant "coming soon".  Also, that would explain why it appears there is finally construction happening there.

 

now thats a damn shame if its a subway sub shop because the chinese/indian 'mirch' mixup is one of the best cuisines ever, especially if you like spicy foods. google mirch and check out the menu of anyplace that comes up -- it will make you hungry instantly! so if no go there hopefully it opens somewhere else downtown.

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First of all, in downtown news, to my knowledge and someone I know who went walking around downtown, the mirch masala looks as if it will be on Ontario on the side across from the Casino in Higbee's.

 

Second of all, in case it was not posted here it is, about restaurants opening in Westpark.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/sunpostherald/index.ssf/2012/10/eateries_opening_revamping_on.html

 

Seems there will be new Indian and Thai places in Westpark. 

 

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^I read the article about West Park. It mentions the new Thai place as well as Cafe Falafel, but didn't mention the Indian place. The area needs Indian! Is it announced in a different article?

 

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bourbon street barrel room coming to tremont's professor avenue.  looks like cajun/nola influenced menu, owners justin& barry clemens.

 

tried to snap a pic of the menu & description in the window, but came out terrible.

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I don't know if it has been posted, but it appears Prime Rib Steakhouse on Superior has bit the dust. Noticed paper on the windows driving home last night. Not too surprising to me. Weird location and seemed overpriced, although I never went there.

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I was going to post this in the crime thread, but I see that got shut down as it was heading down a slippery slope.

 

Anyway, I just saw this Tweet from Dim and Den Sum:

 

HodgesCleveland (Hodges Cleveland)

 

Only took 30 minutes to locate our truck with the help of A fan who saw it parked In central Cleveland! @DimAndDenSum will be home soon

 

10:12 AM Oct 22nd via TweetDeck

 

Apparently, their truck was stolen and recovered at E. 46th St. and Central Ave., but it was stripped.

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I noticed a sign in the old Moe's across from CSU.  It says "Burgers 2 Beer" opening soon. Seems to be one in Mayfield and should do nicely there.  http://www.b2bcleveland.com/

 

Noted at least 2 weeks ago. Very excited, CSU will have a nice bar in the campus' busiest area. Outdoor patio too

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^ yeah thats great news --- so fitting because there are a lot of columbians and south americans living on the westside.

A little Colombian flavor in Lakewood.

 

Barroco, the one that started it all, has been on Madison in Lakewood for a substantial amount of time.

Helvetica is an off-shoot of Barroco.

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I was going to post this in the crime thread, but I see that got shut down as it was heading down a slippery slope.

 

Anyway, I just saw this Tweet from Dim and Den Sum:

 

HodgesCleveland (Hodges Cleveland)

 

Only took 30 minutes to locate our truck with the help of A fan who saw it parked In central Cleveland! @DimAndDenSum will be home soon

 

10:12 AM Oct 22nd via TweetDeck

http://twitter.com/HodgesCleveland/status/260383019112755201

 

Apparently, their truck was stolen and recovered at E. 46th St. and Central Ave., but it was stripped.

 

That's CRAZY!


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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^ yeah thats great news --- so fitting because there are a lot of columbians and south americans living on the westside.

 

I was looking at the hours for the downtown Subways after walking by the one on East 9th and seeing how busy it was at 8pm last night. According to their website, there's a new Subway coming to the Southworth Building. I assume this will be in the old Sushi 86 spot.

 

Also, I noticed many Subways downtown are open until 10pm. I'm not a big Subway eater, but it's nice to see places staying open after 6pm.

 

That is where Mirch Masala was supposed to go, but would not surprise me if it became a Subway.  Especially seen as that spot always had some restaurant "coming soon".  Also, that would explain why it appears there is finally construction happening there.

 

now thats a damn shame if its a subway sub shop because the chinese/indian 'mirch' mixup is one of the best cuisines ever, especially if you like spicy foods. google mirch and check out the menu of anyplace that comes up -- it will make you hungry instantly! so if no go there hopefully it opens somewhere else downtown.

 

Subway may not be taking the Mirch Masala spot.  There are two storefronts in the 2013 Ontario building and both had lights on this morning with the standard redevelopment paper up on the windows.  Would not surprise me either way, but hopefully something happens as that spot has been empty for almost 2 years I think now.

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^I think the location can work, but you must serve lunch there and have some way of drawing people in the evenings.  I thought the House of Cues was actually a really good fit for the location because they had a decent lunch, hosted corporate events in their private room, and drew people in that live downtown and want to play pool.  It was also a low key escape from W6th for some on Friday and Saturday nights...

 

But the owner of the House of Cues was doing back flips when he sold the place so I guess he made out pretty well.

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In part of Joseph-Beth space...

 

"Minneapolis, MN  (RestaurantNews.com)  Granite City Food & Brewery Ltd. (NASDAQ: GCFB), a casual dining restaurant group, is continuing to grow with the announcement that it is building a new Granite City Food & Brewery in Lyndhurst, Ohio at the Legacy Village lifestyle center. The Company recently signed a long term lease with Legacy Village Investors, LLC. and expects the new restaurant to open in 2013"

 

http://www.restaurantnews.com/granite-city-food-brewery-set-to-open-restaurant-in-lyndhurst-ohio/

 

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