gpodawund Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Went to Hingetown to watch the Browns game today and snagged a pic 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry1962 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) ^Great pic! This project is really rocking along at a fast clip! Hopefully they can get some good retail such as a hardware, dry cleaner, or a drug store. GO CLE!! Edited September 30, 2019 by Larry1962 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty15 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 This is such a cool project. And Snavely Phase 3 is about 10 down into the dirt. Moving quick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry1962 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) And with Snavely's phase three started, it should really help with density in the area which should help attract even more retail! Edited September 30, 2019 by Larry1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty15 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Larry1962 said: And with Snavely's phase three hopefully starting soon, it should really help with density in the area which should help attract even more retail! It’s already started. They’re digging the foundation currently. Edited September 30, 2019 by marty15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry1962 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 ^Thanks for update! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanetics_ Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Forgot this project had its own thread so originally posted a construction picture in the general Ohio City development thread. Figured I'd cross-post here to keep the discussion going in the right place! Edited October 21, 2019 by urbanetics_ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Daddy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Wow! Sure is going up quick.. I see the crane but haven’t seen the street level impact in a few months, since my last night of Ohio City shenanigans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty15 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 The walls are showing up to the site prefabbed with the windows already in. Haven’t seen that method here. Good way to cut down on labor cost. Probably made by Amish for $10/hr somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klingaling87 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, marty15 said: The walls are showing up to the site prefabbed with the windows already in. Haven’t seen that method here. Good way to cut down on labor cost. Probably made by Amish for $10/hr somewhere. Marty - the project is 100% union... no Amish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleCaneFan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Klingaling87 said: Marty - the project is 100% union... no Amish. @Klingaling87, he means the walls were probably pre-fabbed in a shop somewhere by Amish; the trades on the job site are all Union Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klingaling87 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, CleCaneFan said: @Klingaling87, he means the walls were probably pre-fabbed in a shop somewhere by Amish; the trades on the job site are all Union I know what he meant, and I’m telling you that it’s not the case. The panels are made in a warehouse by union contractors. The project has AFL-CIO funding. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleCaneFan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Klingaling87 said: I know what he meant, and I’m telling you that it’s not the case. The panels are made in a warehouse by union contractors. The project has AFL-CIO funding. Ok, thanks for clarifying; I’m a Union Carpenter and I can tell you that I’ve been on a number of all-Union jobs where the pre-fabbed walls & whatnot came from Amish or various non-union shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klingaling87 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, CleCaneFan said: Ok, thanks for clarifying; I’m a Union Carpenter and I can tell you that I’ve been on a number of all-Union jobs where the pre-fabbed walls & whatnot came from Amish or various non-union shops. Understood. Turner is signatory to the carpenters as well, so it couldn’t go non-union even if the Owner wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freefourur Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Union trades bought the HUD bonds that financed the project. 100% union is required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapper Daddy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) Don’t hate on Amish ingenuity. Don’t know if they can build a high rise but my rocking chair gets an A+ Edited October 21, 2019 by Sapper Daddy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleCaneFan Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) On 10/21/2019 at 6:14 PM, freefourur said: Union trades bought the HUD bonds that financed the project. 100% union is required. I don’t want to continue to nit-pick this topic but “100% Union” in these instances normally only apply to the job site, not construction materials, finishes, suppliers etc. if that turns out to be the case then that’s great but I’ve never understood these agreements to reach that far off the job site. Just want to minimize any confusion regarding “prevailing-wage” or “100% Union” jobs. Edited October 23, 2019 by CleCaneFan Clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleCaneFan Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 On 10/21/2019 at 7:22 PM, Sapper Daddy said: Don’t hate on Amish ingenuity. Don’t know if they can build a high rise but my rocking chair gets an A+ The Amish are pretty good at furniture & barns, but I wouldn’t take a laser or level into an Amish-built house to check anything for plumb, level or square. Just saying 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty15 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Progress. 18 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtDecoSquirrel Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 6:23 AM, CleCaneFan said: The Amish are pretty good at furniture & barns, but I wouldn’t take a laser or level into an Amish-built house to check anything for plumb, level or square. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtDecoSquirrel Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I'm only an apprentice with the Carpenters Union right now, but being around finish work (cabinets), I second that sentiment. Lots of "Amish built" cabinets with doors out of square or not level with eachother that had to be sent back. It's nice, rustic stuff for home, but doesn't really meet a truly professional standard it would seem. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klingaling87 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 View from the rooftop of Building B, which will have the community room overlooking the city. 36 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleCaneFan Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 2 hours ago, ArtDecoSquirrel said: I'm only an apprentice with the Carpenters Union right now, but being around finish work (cabinets), I second that sentiment. Lots of "Amish built" cabinets with doors out of square or not level with eachother that had to be sent back. It's nice, rustic stuff for home, but doesn't really meet a truly professional standard it would seem. Good to see another tradesman here! Can you say who/where you’re working for? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtDecoSquirrel Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/25/2019 at 9:23 PM, CleCaneFan said: Good to see another tradesman here! Can you say who/where you’re working for? Meridian right now. I've been with a few places so far, still waiting to catch on with someone for more than 4 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sooner Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Second building now has two floors up atop the concrete podium. No siding up yet on either building. Slow progress, but looks great so far. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GISguy Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Ironically the insulation/cladding matches the 'face wall' Edited December 12, 2019 by GISguy 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayDay Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Quick drive by pic from today. 5 http://www.clevelandskyscrapers.comhttps://www.instagram.com/clevelandskyscrapers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJP Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Only four more floors to go. Edited December 27, 2019 by KJP 4 “What is the meaning of this city? Do you huddle close together because you love each other?” Or “We all dwell together to make money from each other”? -- TS Eliot’s The Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPhoneDead Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 4:37 PM, MayDay said: Quick drive by pic from today. Wow this is going up fast! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down_with_Ctown Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 4:54 PM, KJP said: Only four more floors to go. Wow--this building dominates the Detroit Road/West 25-29th neighborhood as is. To think four more floors are coming will be truly transformative for this stretch of road. And with Market Square coming on Lorain, I think it's safe to say we're entering a new era of height and density in Ohio City. Exciting times. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YABO713 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Down_with_Ctown said: Wow--this building dominates the Detroit Road/West 25-29th neighborhood as is. To think four more floors are coming will be truly transformative for this stretch of road. And with Market Square coming on Lorain, I think it's safe to say we're entering a new era of height and density in Ohio City. Exciting times. I heard two people talking at Bookhouse Brewing last weekend... and they said "Within 18 months, Ohio City will have a better skyline than Youngstown, Canton, and Springfield." 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htsguy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, YABO713 said: I heard two people talking at Bookhouse Brewing last weekend... and they said "Within 18 months, Ohio City will have a better skyline than Youngstown, Canton, and Springfield." Glad to hear people are excited about Ohio City but I think that is a slight exaggeration, especially relative to Canton and Youngstown (don't know much about Springfield other than the McDonalds off of Interstate 70 which we always stopped at on the way to school). Since the office component of Market Square has been pushed down an unknown road I can't think of anything really tall scheduled for the near future (at least nothing that has been announced). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Youngstown has an incredible, almost completely pre-WWII skyline. Ohio City will not surpass it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJP Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 I think they're referring to the number of 10+ story tall buildings. “What is the meaning of this city? Do you huddle close together because you love each other?” Or “We all dwell together to make money from each other”? -- TS Eliot’s The Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htsguy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, KJP said: I think they're referring to the number of 10+ story tall buildings. What buildings are those other than Church and State (since again Market Square office is an unknown at this point)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumsquare Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Htsguy said: What buildings are those other than Church and State (since again Market Square office is an unknown at this point)? Riverview Towers, United Bank, Lakeview Tower, West Side Market, Church and State. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YABO713 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 27 minutes ago, ink said: Youngstown has an incredible, almost completely pre-WWII skyline. Ohio City will not surpass it. Agreed - Youngstown and Massillon to a certain extent have this really cool, "glory days" feel about their city centers, where I'd love to just get transported back to 1952 and see what it was like. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clefan98 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Htsguy said: What buildings are those other than Church and State (since again Market Square office is an unknown at this point)? There's plans for a 12-15 story residential building on the NE quadrant of Det and 25th. Lorain and 20th is also another potential site of a 10+ story building. A successful completion of the Irish Bend park, Church & State and Market Square will push development in Ohio City into overdrive. Edited December 31, 2019 by Clefan98 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htsguy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 33 minutes ago, Clefan98 said: There's plans for a 12-15 story residential building on the NE quadrant of Det and 25th. Lorain and 20th is also another potential site of a 10+ story building. A successful completion of the Irish Bend park, Church & State and Market Square, will push development in Ohio City into overdrive. Great. But all aspirational and unannounced. Not going to be built in 18 months per the coffee shop hopefuls. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clefan98 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Htsguy said: Great. But all aspirational and unannounced. Not going to be built in 18 months per the coffee shop hopefuls. The project on 25th and Detroit is passed the aspiration stage. Edited December 31, 2019 by Clefan98 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJP Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hemingway's Bridgeworks development start construction within 18 months @Htsguy. 10 1 “What is the meaning of this city? Do you huddle close together because you love each other?” Or “We all dwell together to make money from each other”? -- TS Eliot’s The Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shack Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Clefan98 said: There's plans for a 12-15 story residential building on the NE quadrant of Det and 25th. Lorain and 20th is also another potential site of a 10+ story building. A successful completion of the Irish Bend park, Church & State and Market Square will push development in Ohio City into overdrive. The tricky part will be how the neighborhood manages to integrate the public housing units with the market rate developments into a cohesive and unified whole, rather than "a tale of two cities" between the "haves and the have nots". Public spaces such as parks are the "glue" that keeps communities together as gathering places from all walks of life. But they have to be welcoming places that feel safe rather than than hang out areas of problematic people ( Market Square can feel that way). I think Irish Bend park needs to be a welcoming place (like the refurbished Public Square) for the community to succeed. Hope it pans out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klingaling87 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Good news is that Bridgeworks will be completely affordable units in a prime location. That’s how development should be... mixed uses and mixed incomes. But I will say that 12-15 stories is exaggerated. 10 stories max. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty15 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Church + State today. Thread locked 17 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfohio Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Coming along! Okay I'm not going so far as to say that I want that yellow, but I really do wish we could get more colorful buildings in CLE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfdwarrior Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 On 12/31/2019 at 6:18 PM, Klingaling87 said: Good news is that Bridgeworks will be completely affordable units in a prime location. That’s how development should be... mixed uses and mixed incomes. But I will say that 12-15 stories is exaggerated. 10 stories max. When you say "mixed incomes" are you talking about section 8 housing or just cheaper rentals? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJP Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, marty15 said: Church + State today. Thread locked I was considering stopping to get a photo on this nice sunny day today, but after seeing your photo @marty15 I'm glad I didn't. There's no way I could top that pic! 2 1 “What is the meaning of this city? Do you huddle close together because you love each other?” Or “We all dwell together to make money from each other”? -- TS Eliot’s The Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tastybunns Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Looks like people are driving chop shop piggy banks with Pano mode. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htsguy Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) On 12/31/2019 at 6:18 PM, Klingaling87 said: Good news is that Bridgeworks will be completely affordable units in a prime location. That’s how development should be... mixed uses and mixed incomes. But I will say that 12-15 stories is exaggerated. 10 stories max. Is Bridgeworks the new project on the former Cuyahoga County Engineers property? If yes, in a Crain's article on Michael Panzica leaving Hemingway and starting his own development firm it is suggested that the building here will be six stories or less. Edited January 12, 2020 by Htsguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJP Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 Yes. Bridgeworks is the Engineers site project. “What is the meaning of this city? Do you huddle close together because you love each other?” Or “We all dwell together to make money from each other”? -- TS Eliot’s The Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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