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6 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

I've never figured out how to see which properties were part of a multi-property sale on the Hamilton County Auditor site.  Plus, there is never a hint that there were multiple properties involved in a sale other than an extraordinary sales figure. 

 

The only thing I've noticed is that the properties that are sold together all have the same sale date and sale price. So if you sell three vacant parcels for $50,000, each parcel will show a sale on the same date of $50,000. But they didn't sell for $50,000 each. But there's no way I can tell that you can see which properties were bundled without clicking on each one individually to analyze this date on CAGIS or by searching the parcels on the auditor's site.

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11 hours ago, troeros said:

Does anyone have any information regarding the, "Main Street  OTR Gateway" project. 

 

I saw the OTR community council approved a motion regarding this project in their latest docket but I'm curious what exactly this gateway project entails?

 

I hadn't heard anything about it in several years so I didn't know it was still in the works. Last I heard, they were talking about some sort of "Welcome to the Main Street Historic District" type of signage at either Central Parkway & Main or 12th & Main.

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39 minutes ago, taestell said:

 

I hadn't heard anything about it in several years so I didn't know it was still in the works. Last I heard, they were talking about some sort of "Welcome to the Main Street Historic District" type of signage at either Central Parkway & Main or 12th & Main.

Hopefully, it is not the terrible gateway arch they proposed a few years ago. 


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48 minutes ago, taestell said:

 

I hadn't heard anything about it in several years so I didn't know it was still in the works. Last I heard, they were talking about some sort of "Welcome to the Main Street Historic District" type of signage at either Central Parkway & Main or 12th & Main.

 

It sounds like it's more than just a simple gateway arch to me... in the cc letter drafted it notes, "Improvements to the customer experience, visible improvements to the main St corridor, and foundation for success for main Street businesses."

 

I'm not sure how they would go about implementing this though?

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8 minutes ago, JYP said:

Hopefully, it is not the terrible gateway arch they proposed a few years ago. 

 

That's what I've heard is proposed. I think a gateway arch is dumb. It works where there has historically been one (like the Short North in Columbus). 

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11 minutes ago, ryanlammi said:

 

That's what I've heard is proposed. I think a gateway arch is dumb. It works where there has historically been one (like the Short North in Columbus). 

 

Based off the letter it seems more in depth than an arch. I'm not sure how you improve the customer experience and business success by adding an arch...

 

You can find the letter draft in the reports and minutes on the otr community council website for April. 

 

I'm curious if anyone on here is on/attended the otr community council meeting and could chime in more. 

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New details on the next phase of Model Group’s Findlay Market project

 

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More than 20 percent of the apartments in the third phase of Model Group’s major Findlay Market mixed-use development will have be affordable housing, the developer told Cincinnati City Council.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/07/new-details-on-the-next-phase-of-model-group-s.html


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To ease OTR parking crunch, city offers night passes at this garage

 

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In order to ease the nighttime parking pinch and open up on-street spaces, the city of Cincinnati is now offering evening parking passes in the Town Center Garage across from Music Hall.

 

The passes cost $30 per month. The city’s parking facilities division said the garage has the capacity to offer the passes, which are good 4 p.m.-6 a.m. daily.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/07/to-ease-otr-parking-crunch-city-offers-night.html


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2 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

To ease OTR parking crunch, city offers night passes at this garage

 

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In order to ease the nighttime parking pinch and open up on-street spaces, the city of Cincinnati is now offering evening parking passes in the Town Center Garage across from Music Hall.

 

The passes cost $30 per month. The city’s parking facilities division said the garage has the capacity to offer the passes, which are good 4 p.m.-6 a.m. daily.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/07/to-ease-otr-parking-crunch-city-offers-night.html

 

You might as well pay $40 and get a pass that's good around the clock. 

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It would be a great option for businesses who want to give their employees a place to park who work evenings/nights. Provide $30 to employees who work nights and they have a guaranteed parking space. Anything along Vine Street or west would be easily within walking distance of this garage.

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22 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

New details on the next phase of Model Group’s Findlay Market project

 

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More than 20 percent of the apartments in the third phase of Model Group’s major Findlay Market mixed-use development will have be affordable housing, the developer told Cincinnati City Council.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/07/new-details-on-the-next-phase-of-model-group-s.html

 

I'm not sure this bit was old news, or new news but these are the 9 rehabbed buildings model group will be working on

 

1810 Elm

1830 Elm St.,

1821 Race St 

1936 Race St

1941 Race St.

124 Findlay

127 Findlay St.

41 W. McMicken Ave

22 W. Elder

 

If you look on google maps, some of these buildings are huge. It really does seem like Model Group is really trying to take control of all the development around the Findley Market. 

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1 minute ago, ryanlammi said:

It would be a great option for businesses who want to give their employees a place to park who work evenings/nights. Provide $30 to employees who work nights and they have a guaranteed parking space. Anything along Vine Street or west would be easily within walking distance of this garage.

That would be perfect for closing shift bartenders or service industry workers

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35 minutes ago, Jimmy Skinner said:

^Except I've tried and they are sold out of the $40 passes, and have a waiting list.  

 

Who's gonna commit to leaving before 6am every day?!!?

 

Really? That's crazy. Didn't realize they were in such high demand.

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7 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

Good.  That one is an eye sore at an increasingly prominent street corner.  

 

 

Its also a really large building as well. It will be great to have more residents living north of liberty in the coming years and should hopefully ease the crime a bit in NoL

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47 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

Its also a really large building as well. It will be great to have more residents living north of liberty in the coming years and should hopefully ease the crime a bit in NoL

 

 

Property prices in Mt. Auburn, Clifton Heights, and the West End have nearly doubled or more than doubled since 2016.  I expect that those neighborhoods will look like OTR does now by 2030, and by that same date there will be zero vacant buildings or vacant lots (aside from some surface parking) left in Over-the-Rhine.  

 

 

 

 

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If I sold my house, which I own outright, the proceeds from it would pay for only FOUR YEARS of rent at the apartment I rented for half as much in 2006-2007 in Corryville. Same number of bedrooms

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16 hours ago, thomasbw said:

That would be perfect for closing shift bartenders or service industry workers

That's exactly where this is coming from. A working group with the OTR Chamber is talking to a number of garages/lots about similar programs to ease the worker parking issue, especially with the new residential permit parking program now in place.

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6 hours ago, mcmicken said:

That's exactly where this is coming from. A working group with the OTR Chamber is talking to a number of garages/lots about similar programs to ease the worker parking issue, especially with the new residential permit parking program now in place.

 

 

Night workers can often ride the bus to but not back from bar & restaurant jobs.  A lot of people ride the bus or walk to work but then get a ride home with a coworker who has a car.  

 

When I lived in Boston upwards of 20 years ago, I recall many places shutting down at 1am even though alcohol could be served until 2am because so many employees were reliant on public transit to get home.  

 

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https://www.gofundme.com/schwartz039s-point-jazz-club

 

If anyone wants to donate please do. SHWARTZ Jazz Club seems to be struggling. I'm glad they raised the 1k they were asking for but it sounds like they need a little more continued support.

 

I feel bad for them honestly. They do alot of positive work but they are located in a part of otr that very few people feel comfortable in at night. Hope they stay open until that part of otr gets gentrified.

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There's been some work happening at the Lightborne building on 14th Street for the past few weeks. The exterior concrete which had been unpainted is now getting painted. I have no idea if any other work is being done besides the painting.

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37 minutes ago, taestell said:

There's been some work happening at the Lightborne building on 14th Street for the past few weeks. The exterior concrete which had been unpainted is now getting painted. I have no idea if any other work is being done besides the painting.

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This always looks so cool from my place in Mount Adams, looks like a little lit up jewel box at night. 

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State, city set to inject $3 million into housing in Over-the-Rhine

 

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The state of Ohio and the city of Cincinnati are set to allocate $3 million in new housing tax credits over the next three years into Over-the-Rhine, with the goal of building up to $30 million in affordable housing there.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/14/state-city-set-to-inject-3-million-into-housing-in.html


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131 E McMicken Ave proposal is up on the latest HCB packet. Shows a rendering of new 1 story infill next to Roadtrippers HQ (can't tell if it will cover up the cheers to beer murual painted on the wall). 

 

The concept looks very cool. The infill is a large glass green house, and the adjacent grass lot appears to be a beer garden filled with trees and a large canopy. Very neat concept. 

 

Hopefully this section of McMicken will be gradually clean up by the time this venture opens. If you look on shot spotter most of the north liberty crimes have begun to congregate on this street since the closure of findlay playground.

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2 hours ago, troeros said:

131 E McMicken Ave proposal is up on the latest HCB packet. Shows a rendering of new 1 story infill next to Roadtrippers HQ (can't tell if it will cover up the cheers to beer murual painted on the wall). 

 

The concept looks very cool. The infill is a large glass green house, and the adjacent grass lot appears to be a beer garden filled with trees and a large canopy. Very neat concept. 

 

Hopefully this section of McMicken will be gradually clean up by the time this venture opens. If you look on shot spotter most of the north liberty crimes have begun to congregate on this street since the closure of findlay playground.

It does not cover the "Revival" mural, the glass conservatory sits to the east.

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Wow. That's an awesome looking place. That's going to be a serious draw into that area. I would imagine it'll be a catalyst for spin off development around it to happen, kind of like with Rhinegeist (to a smaller extent).

 

One thing I really miss since moving away from the Midwest is that because land is so expensive (here in NYC) it's essentially impossible to make building something like this work financially. You sometimes get backyards or roof tops, but there's something about a large, ground floor outdoor bar that's special and not something I ever imagined would stick out as something I really miss about Cincinnati.

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12 hours ago, jmicha said:

Wow. That's an awesome looking place. That's going to be a serious draw into that area. I would imagine it'll be a catalyst for spin off development around it to happen, kind of like with Rhinegeist (to a smaller extent).

 

One thing I really miss since moving away from the Midwest is that because land is so expensive (here in NYC) it's essentially impossible to make building something like this work financially. You sometimes get backyards or roof tops, but there's something about a large, ground floor outdoor bar that's special and not something I ever imagined would stick out as something I really miss about Cincinnati.

 

When I was in Europe, one of my favorite resturaunts to go to was this outside resturaunt garden. Huge pine trees, wonderful decor with string lights and fire pits, live outdoor bandstand music on weekends. It was always packed in the summer nights.

 

Ive always wondered if a concept like this could work in Cincy. Sometimes I think how cool it would be if Washington Park had an outdoor resturaunt on the weekends.

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

When I was in Europe, one of my favorite resturaunts to go to was this outside resturaunt garden. Huge pine trees, wonderful decor with string lights and fire pits, live outdoor bandstand music on weekends. It was always packed in the summer nights.

 

Ive always wondered if a concept like this could work in Cincy. Sometimes I think how cool it would be if Washington Park had an outdoor resturaunt on the weekends.

 

There is already a beer garden in Washington Park and you can get take out from a nearby restaurant and grab a beer and eat in the park. We do it all the time and it is quite lovely. 

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4 hours ago, DEPACincy said:

 

There is already a beer garden in Washington Park and you can get take out from a nearby restaurant and grab a beer and eat in the park. We do it all the time and it is quite lovely. 

Agreed. Though I wish there were a Sartre/Rhinegeist system of pneumatic tubes connecting Washington Park to the Vine St restaurants for insta-delivery 🙂

 

I've very excited for the Somerset space on E McMicken. Looks like a gorgeous design with the glass "conservatory" roof and two outdoor spaces: the smaller courtyard next to the big mural, and the larger "event lawn". I wonder if they intend to make the space available for weddings and private events. They don't have any kitchen equipment in the kitchen/back bar, but they do specify a location for accommodating a food truck.

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9 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

Findlay Playground is becoming overgrown:

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You think that playground is haunted? With all the shootings and deaths that happened their you have to imagine it might be.

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Apperantly The Rook has shut down. 

 

Shame, one of the more enjoyable bars in otr. Wonder what happened that could have caused the sudden closure?

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8 minutes ago, 10albersa said:

Oh no, that's one of the few bars I actually enjoy in OTR...

 

Still waiting for confirmation. Nothing is posted on their door yet, and nothing is mentioned about closure on Facebook or their website. 

 

That said, it will be indeed sad if it's true. 

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Met a great couple on Saturday who were visiting Cincinnati from Canada asking for directions to a resturaunt in otr.

 

They were in their late 20's and we're traveling to some nearby US Cities (Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Indy) and Cincy was last on their stop before heading.

 

They had really nice things to say about Cincy! They were staying at an Airbnb in otr and got to check out taste of cincy and alot of the otr entertainment options. 

 

They said as a city as a whole Chicago was their favorite. But they said otr as a neighborhood was probably the best neighborhood they visited in all of the cities they had visited and one of the most unique neigborhoods they've been to in the states. They also mentioned the view from their 

 

It was really great speaking with then and they said they would share their experience and recommend more people from their social circle to Cincy and OTR when they return back. 

 

It's great to see word of mouth continue to spread about otr! 

 

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