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It would be a great option for businesses who want to give their employees a place to park who work evenings/nights. Provide $30 to employees who work nights and they have a guaranteed parking space. Anything along Vine Street or west would be easily within walking distance of this garage.

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22 minutes ago, ColDayMan said:

New details on the next phase of Model Group’s Findlay Market project

 

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More than 20 percent of the apartments in the third phase of Model Group’s major Findlay Market mixed-use development will have be affordable housing, the developer told Cincinnati City Council.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/07/new-details-on-the-next-phase-of-model-group-s.html

 

I'm not sure this bit was old news, or new news but these are the 9 rehabbed buildings model group will be working on

 

1810 Elm

1830 Elm St.,

1821 Race St 

1936 Race St

1941 Race St.

124 Findlay

127 Findlay St.

41 W. McMicken Ave

22 W. Elder

 

If you look on google maps, some of these buildings are huge. It really does seem like Model Group is really trying to take control of all the development around the Findley Market. 

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1 minute ago, ryanlammi said:

It would be a great option for businesses who want to give their employees a place to park who work evenings/nights. Provide $30 to employees who work nights and they have a guaranteed parking space. Anything along Vine Street or west would be easily within walking distance of this garage.

That would be perfect for closing shift bartenders or service industry workers

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35 minutes ago, Jimmy Skinner said:

^Except I've tried and they are sold out of the $40 passes, and have a waiting list.  

 

Who's gonna commit to leaving before 6am every day?!!?

 

Really? That's crazy. Didn't realize they were in such high demand.

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7 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

Good.  That one is an eye sore at an increasingly prominent street corner.  

 

 

Its also a really large building as well. It will be great to have more residents living north of liberty in the coming years and should hopefully ease the crime a bit in NoL

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47 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

Its also a really large building as well. It will be great to have more residents living north of liberty in the coming years and should hopefully ease the crime a bit in NoL

 

 

Property prices in Mt. Auburn, Clifton Heights, and the West End have nearly doubled or more than doubled since 2016.  I expect that those neighborhoods will look like OTR does now by 2030, and by that same date there will be zero vacant buildings or vacant lots (aside from some surface parking) left in Over-the-Rhine.  

 

 

 

 

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If I sold my house, which I own outright, the proceeds from it would pay for only FOUR YEARS of rent at the apartment I rented for half as much in 2006-2007 in Corryville. Same number of bedrooms

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16 hours ago, thomasbw said:

That would be perfect for closing shift bartenders or service industry workers

That's exactly where this is coming from. A working group with the OTR Chamber is talking to a number of garages/lots about similar programs to ease the worker parking issue, especially with the new residential permit parking program now in place.

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6 hours ago, mcmicken said:

That's exactly where this is coming from. A working group with the OTR Chamber is talking to a number of garages/lots about similar programs to ease the worker parking issue, especially with the new residential permit parking program now in place.

 

 

Night workers can often ride the bus to but not back from bar & restaurant jobs.  A lot of people ride the bus or walk to work but then get a ride home with a coworker who has a car.  

 

When I lived in Boston upwards of 20 years ago, I recall many places shutting down at 1am even though alcohol could be served until 2am because so many employees were reliant on public transit to get home.  

 

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https://www.gofundme.com/schwartz039s-point-jazz-club

 

If anyone wants to donate please do. SHWARTZ Jazz Club seems to be struggling. I'm glad they raised the 1k they were asking for but it sounds like they need a little more continued support.

 

I feel bad for them honestly. They do alot of positive work but they are located in a part of otr that very few people feel comfortable in at night. Hope they stay open until that part of otr gets gentrified.

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There's been some work happening at the Lightborne building on 14th Street for the past few weeks. The exterior concrete which had been unpainted is now getting painted. I have no idea if any other work is being done besides the painting.

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37 minutes ago, taestell said:

There's been some work happening at the Lightborne building on 14th Street for the past few weeks. The exterior concrete which had been unpainted is now getting painted. I have no idea if any other work is being done besides the painting.

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This always looks so cool from my place in Mount Adams, looks like a little lit up jewel box at night. 

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State, city set to inject $3 million into housing in Over-the-Rhine

 

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The state of Ohio and the city of Cincinnati are set to allocate $3 million in new housing tax credits over the next three years into Over-the-Rhine, with the goal of building up to $30 million in affordable housing there.

 

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https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/14/state-city-set-to-inject-3-million-into-housing-in.html


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131 E McMicken Ave proposal is up on the latest HCB packet. Shows a rendering of new 1 story infill next to Roadtrippers HQ (can't tell if it will cover up the cheers to beer murual painted on the wall). 

 

The concept looks very cool. The infill is a large glass green house, and the adjacent grass lot appears to be a beer garden filled with trees and a large canopy. Very neat concept. 

 

Hopefully this section of McMicken will be gradually clean up by the time this venture opens. If you look on shot spotter most of the north liberty crimes have begun to congregate on this street since the closure of findlay playground.

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2 hours ago, troeros said:

131 E McMicken Ave proposal is up on the latest HCB packet. Shows a rendering of new 1 story infill next to Roadtrippers HQ (can't tell if it will cover up the cheers to beer murual painted on the wall). 

 

The concept looks very cool. The infill is a large glass green house, and the adjacent grass lot appears to be a beer garden filled with trees and a large canopy. Very neat concept. 

 

Hopefully this section of McMicken will be gradually clean up by the time this venture opens. If you look on shot spotter most of the north liberty crimes have begun to congregate on this street since the closure of findlay playground.

It does not cover the "Revival" mural, the glass conservatory sits to the east.

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Wow. That's an awesome looking place. That's going to be a serious draw into that area. I would imagine it'll be a catalyst for spin off development around it to happen, kind of like with Rhinegeist (to a smaller extent).

 

One thing I really miss since moving away from the Midwest is that because land is so expensive (here in NYC) it's essentially impossible to make building something like this work financially. You sometimes get backyards or roof tops, but there's something about a large, ground floor outdoor bar that's special and not something I ever imagined would stick out as something I really miss about Cincinnati.

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12 hours ago, jmicha said:

Wow. That's an awesome looking place. That's going to be a serious draw into that area. I would imagine it'll be a catalyst for spin off development around it to happen, kind of like with Rhinegeist (to a smaller extent).

 

One thing I really miss since moving away from the Midwest is that because land is so expensive (here in NYC) it's essentially impossible to make building something like this work financially. You sometimes get backyards or roof tops, but there's something about a large, ground floor outdoor bar that's special and not something I ever imagined would stick out as something I really miss about Cincinnati.

 

When I was in Europe, one of my favorite resturaunts to go to was this outside resturaunt garden. Huge pine trees, wonderful decor with string lights and fire pits, live outdoor bandstand music on weekends. It was always packed in the summer nights.

 

Ive always wondered if a concept like this could work in Cincy. Sometimes I think how cool it would be if Washington Park had an outdoor resturaunt on the weekends.

 

 

 

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31 minutes ago, troeros said:

 

When I was in Europe, one of my favorite resturaunts to go to was this outside resturaunt garden. Huge pine trees, wonderful decor with string lights and fire pits, live outdoor bandstand music on weekends. It was always packed in the summer nights.

 

Ive always wondered if a concept like this could work in Cincy. Sometimes I think how cool it would be if Washington Park had an outdoor resturaunt on the weekends.

 

There is already a beer garden in Washington Park and you can get take out from a nearby restaurant and grab a beer and eat in the park. We do it all the time and it is quite lovely. 

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4 hours ago, DEPACincy said:

 

There is already a beer garden in Washington Park and you can get take out from a nearby restaurant and grab a beer and eat in the park. We do it all the time and it is quite lovely. 

Agreed. Though I wish there were a Sartre/Rhinegeist system of pneumatic tubes connecting Washington Park to the Vine St restaurants for insta-delivery 🙂

 

I've very excited for the Somerset space on E McMicken. Looks like a gorgeous design with the glass "conservatory" roof and two outdoor spaces: the smaller courtyard next to the big mural, and the larger "event lawn". I wonder if they intend to make the space available for weddings and private events. They don't have any kitchen equipment in the kitchen/back bar, but they do specify a location for accommodating a food truck.

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9 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

Findlay Playground is becoming overgrown:

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You think that playground is haunted? With all the shootings and deaths that happened their you have to imagine it might be.

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Apperantly The Rook has shut down. 

 

Shame, one of the more enjoyable bars in otr. Wonder what happened that could have caused the sudden closure?

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8 minutes ago, 10albersa said:

Oh no, that's one of the few bars I actually enjoy in OTR...

 

Still waiting for confirmation. Nothing is posted on their door yet, and nothing is mentioned about closure on Facebook or their website. 

 

That said, it will be indeed sad if it's true. 

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Met a great couple on Saturday who were visiting Cincinnati from Canada asking for directions to a resturaunt in otr.

 

They were in their late 20's and we're traveling to some nearby US Cities (Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, Indy) and Cincy was last on their stop before heading.

 

They had really nice things to say about Cincy! They were staying at an Airbnb in otr and got to check out taste of cincy and alot of the otr entertainment options. 

 

They said as a city as a whole Chicago was their favorite. But they said otr as a neighborhood was probably the best neighborhood they visited in all of the cities they had visited and one of the most unique neigborhoods they've been to in the states. They also mentioned the view from their 

 

It was really great speaking with then and they said they would share their experience and recommend more people from their social circle to Cincy and OTR when they return back. 

 

It's great to see word of mouth continue to spread about otr! 

 

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Here's how Model Group has shaped the retail landscape around Findlay Market

 

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Model Group has completed two phases of its Market Square redevelopment since 2015 in the blocks surrounding Findlay Market. That's included 91 apartments, 11 market-rate condos and 20 commercial spaces with a total of 72,000 square feet of office and retail space. The developer invested $21 million in Phase 1 of the project and $26 million in Phase 2.

 

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Here's hoping phase 4 is infill for those Findley market surface lots.

 

Hoping for a mixed use project with underground parking similar to 3cdc otr projects 

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15 hours ago, troeros said:

Here's hoping phase 4 is infill for those Findley market surface lots.

 

Hoping for a mixed use project with underground parking similar to 3cdc otr projects 

Model does not own those lots, the City/Corporation for Findlay Market does.

 

Though at least one other large parking lot nearby will become the county's structured parking deck as part of the FCC deal.

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16 minutes ago, mcmicken said:

Model does not own those lots, the City/Corporation for Findlay Market does.

 

Though at least one other large parking lot nearby will become the county's structured parking deck as part of the FCC deal.

 

The only thing fitting the definition of “parking lot” in the area that would possibly be big enough for a garage is the semi truck trailer parking lot on the northwest corner of Findlay Street and Central Parkway. Which I think would be a good location for one 


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Good to see more businesses/offices locating up north, especially filling the gap between Liberty and Findlay Market: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2019/05/28/exclusive-fast-growing-cincinnati-company-preps.html

 

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The building at 1707 Race St. is about 7,000 square feet. Custom Pro Logistics will be moving about two dozen employees from its current space at 139 W. McMicken Ave. to the Race Street building. The company moved into Over-the-Rhine in February of 2016, leasing about 1,600 square feet of space.

Custom Pro Logistics purchased the previously vacant building from Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. Construction started in March 2018.

 

 

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17 hours ago, edale said:

 

?? 

 

The dog grooming place. 

 

So we're turning over space in a historic district to creatures who can't possibly appreciate it. 

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Well to be fair, I think a lot of the people who currently live and play in OTR (more the latter group) don't appreciate how unique it is either. 


“To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”

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2 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

The dog grooming place. 

 

So we're turning over space in a historic district to creatures who can't possibly appreciate it. 

I hesitated in responding because I honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic or sincere. If you're just being sarcastic, fine. Wuf Pet Spa is opening at 1812 Race St only opening because because residents (humans!) live in and appreciate the historic district. There is no sense in which humans are "turning over" the neighborhood to dogs. Many of my neighbors have dogs and it makes the neighborhood a place people want to live. 

 

(I have no idea if their business will succeed. I'm a dog-owner in OTR and I'm perfectly happy to give my dog showers at home so I doubt I'll be one of their customers. As a resident, I'm just glad to see a previously vacant storefront occupied.)

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Urban dogs can become quite a nuisance, quickly. All it takes is one careless owner refusing to clean up after their pet, and in a "broken windows theory" style escalation entire neighborhoods can become covered in feces. Hopefully the sort of person that takes their dog to a posh groomer isn't the sort of person who refuses to pick up poop, but I've seen stranger things.

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You can set up a dog-oriented business in the breakroom of an abandoned warehouse and it will have a million people in and out of it all the time. You cannot go wrong location-wise. Appalachia is full of people breeding dogs and getting people to drive from Cleveland to Lawrence County daily.

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2 hours ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

The dog grooming place. 

 

So we're turning over space in a historic district to creatures who can't possibly appreciate it. 

Suburbanites? /S

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if the owners do allow their pets to take a two on the streets of OTR, the people will enjoy the unique atmosphere OTR, and the pets will enjoy marking the neighborhood up. Happy pets. happy owners

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4 hours ago, Ram23 said:

Urban dogs can become quite a nuisance, quickly. All it takes is one careless owner refusing to clean up after their pet, and in a "broken windows theory" style escalation entire neighborhoods can become covered in feces. Hopefully the sort of person that takes their dog to a posh groomer isn't the sort of person who refuses to pick up poop, but I've seen stranger things.

Seriously?  There are tons of dogs already in downtown in in OTR and the area has not turned into a "neighborhood covered in feces."  

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18 hours ago, Cincy513 said:

Seriously?  There are tons of dogs already in downtown in in OTR and the area has not turned into a "neighborhood covered in feces."  

 

My street, near the border of OTR and CUF is covered in feces as we speak. It can happen fast - all it takes is one person letting their poop fester, and others soon follow suit. So far as I can tell, it's not explicitly illegal to not clean up after your pet, despite the fact it's pretty unsanitary.

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19 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

 

My street, near the border of OTR and CUF is covered in feces as we speak. It can happen fast - all it takes is one person letting their poop fester, and others soon follow suit. So far as I can tell, it's not explicitly illegal to not clean up after your pet, despite the fact it's pretty unsanitary.

 

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Sec. 701-30. - Dog Excrement Removal.

 

No person shall allow a dog under his or her control to be upon public property or upon the property of another, absent the consent of the owner or occupant of the property, without some device for the removal and containment of such dog's excrement; nor shall any person fail to remove any excrement deposited by any dog under his or her control on public or private property.

This section shall not apply to guide dogs under the control of a blind person.

 

The maximum fine is $25, which seems a little low, but it's still illegal.

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34 Greene St, the long 2 story non historic building, that takes up a whole block is being request for demolition by Findley Land Investors LLC in the latest HCB. 

 

The current building is very ugly and a new development would be very welcome at that location.

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It would be great to see that building torn down and replaced by a 5 story building with ground floor retail and 4 stories of apartments or condos above. Since all of the other buildings at that corner are 4-5 stories tall, that would be an appropriate scale.

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