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I thought the day would never come, this will be Columbus' first 300+ tower since Marinova was under construction back in 1999.

The closest we've gotten was The James back in 2014 clocking in at 297', this will likely hit the 320'-350' range. 

 

It's a good day!

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16 hours ago, DevolsDance said:

I thought the day would never come, this will be Columbus' first 300+ tower since Marinova was under construction back in 1999.

The closest we've gotten was The James back in 2014 clocking in at 297', this will likely hit the 320'-350' range. 

 

It's a good day!

And this building has windows on all sides! What a development!

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On 6/21/2019 at 10:06 AM, aderwent said:

 

Pablo, someone on Reddit took a picture from this spot yesterday. Here I put them side-by-side:

 

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I kinda remember it that way in the 90's for the most part. Very cool side by side comparison. Does OSU and short north pretty much meet up now??? High St is one of the most grandest if not "they" grandest street in Ohio one may argue now! 

 

But that would be off topic in this thread to do. 

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13 hours ago, Mildtraumatic said:

 

 

I kinda remember it that way in the 90's for the most part. Very cool side by side comparison. Does OSU and short north pretty much meet up now??? High St is one of the most grandest if not "they" grandest street in Ohio one may argue now! 

 

But that would be off topic in this thread to do. 

 

Not to go to far off topic, but what was there before 670?  I had thought they bulldozed a lot of buildings to put that in, but in the picture above on the left it looks like a green ditch was there? 

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7 minutes ago, 17thState said:

 

Not to go to far off topic, but what was there before 670?  I had thought they bulldozed a lot of buildings to put that in, but in the picture above on the left it looks like a green ditch was there? 

 

Before 670, that area was primarily Flytown - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flytown

 

If you want want to see aerials before it was built, go here - https://www.historicaerials.com/viewer - and look up Columbus. The 1953 and 57 aerial photos shows the intact neighborhood prior to the urban renewal projects that kicked off in lates 50's.

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Thank you for the aerials link. I was aware of the flytown urban renewals (thanks to the WOSU Columbus neighborhoods series) but seeing the scale from above put it more into perspective. 

 

The 670 trench must have just been more green and over grown when the first picture was taken which is what confused me. I was expecting to see the concrete lined channel you see now. 

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On 6/21/2019 at 7:49 PM, jonoh81 said:

They also tore down a bunch of actual historic buildings when they rebuilt the church.  The church is cool, but I would prefer the original streetscape.

I've been by that church many times shocked it's a relatively new build.  Looks  built around 1950's or older.

Looking at picture, where are they going to put the new tower? South of 670?

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9 hours ago, 17thState said:

Thank you for the aerials link. I was aware of the flytown urban renewals (thanks to the WOSU Columbus neighborhoods series) but seeing the scale from above put it more into perspective. 

 

The 670 trench must have just been more green and over grown when the first picture was taken which is what confused me. I was expecting to see the concrete lined channel you see now. 

670 was just two lanes in each direction with sloped banks that were overgrown. That's the green line you see. Here's High St. over 670 before the cap was built.

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OK, back on topic - looking forward to seeing the Hilton construction start! 

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21 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Great catch! 

 

Interesting that it says it's 29 floors and not the 28 we have all seen multiple times, but that could just be the pedestal required to bring it up to street level. I just really want to know the height of this thing! Im so curious to see where in the 300s it's going to land. 

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4 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Great catch! 

 

Interesting that it says it's 29 floors and not the 28 we have all seen multiple times, but that could just be the pedestal required to bring it up to street level. I just really want to know the height of this thing! Im so curious to see where in the 300s it's going to land. 

 

Yep, I'm assuming it's 28 floors if you are standing on High Street, but there will be one floor below that. 

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1 hour ago, cbussoccer said:

Last we heard, groundbreaking was scheduled for today. Anyone know if that is officially happening?

 

Yep, the groundbreaking is today! I believe it's at 1pm

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2 hours ago, cbussoccer said:

Last we heard, groundbreaking was scheduled for today. Anyone know if that is officially happening?

 

39 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Yep, the groundbreaking is today! I believe it's at 1pm

 

Also, this week, they just added a huge sign on the north side of the Convention Center with a picture of it and advertising it opening in 2022.

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12 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

 

 

Also, this week, they just added a huge sign on the north side of the Convention Center with a picture of it and advertising it opening in 2022.

 

Awesome! I've been waiting for their Crane application to see how tall it will be, but I haven't seen it posted yet.

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4 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Awesome! I've been waiting for their Crane application to see how tall it will be, but I haven't seen it posted yet.

 

That has been kind of shocking to be being that they are starting already on things. Hmm, strange. I know someone posted the crew had their applications in already, I guess everything runs on different timelines. 

 

20 minutes ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

 

 

Also, this week, they just added a huge sign on the north side of the Convention Center with a picture of it and advertising it opening in 2022.

 

Yeah, they are pushing it really hard on facebook as well as the only 1,000 room convention hotel in Ohio, which is kind of cool to think about. 

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Just now, DevolsDance said:

 

That has been kind of shocking to be being that they are starting already on things. Hmm, strange. I know someone posted the crew had their applications in already, I guess everything runs on different timelines. 

 

 

I would imagine there is going to be a ton of prep/foundation work involved, so they probably aren't in any rush to get that application in. We are probably still at least a few months away from seeing a crane on site. 

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There's a construction schedule buried in the Request for Proposals for the FFE procurement services for the new hotel on the convention center authority's website... 18th page in this PDF. It's very likely dates have shifted some since that was published, but it shows:

- foundation work starting in January 2020

- podium buildout starting in September 2020

- tower buildout starting in December 2020

- cranes/hoists being used starting in March 2020

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4 minutes ago, .justin said:

There's a construction schedule buried in the Request for Proposals for the FFE procurement services for the new hotel on the convention center authority's website... 18th page in this PDF. It's very likely dates have shifted some since that was published, but it shows:

- foundation work starting in January 2020

- podium buildout starting in September 2020

- tower buildout starting in December 2020

- cranes/hoists being used starting in March 2020

 

Interesting. GIven that they are officially "breaking ground" today, they seem to be ahead of this schedule. I can't imagine it would be 4-5 months until they start foundation work if they break ground today.

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10 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Interesting. GIven that they are officially "breaking ground" today, they seem to be ahead of this schedule. I can't imagine it would be 4-5 months until they start foundation work if they break ground today.

 

It's a ceremonial groundbreaking planned to coincide with the ASAE conference... schedule says site mobilization won't start until the end of September. 

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16 minutes ago, .justin said:

 

It's a ceremonial groundbreaking planned to coincide with the ASAE conference... schedule says site mobilization won't start until the end of September. 

 

Ah gotcha, that makes more sense. I'm also guessing the site is going to need a lot of prep work before they start working on the structure. 

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So, the last three pages of that RFP have some site and structural elevations that say the height based on land elevation. While it's pretty blurry and I don't know the exact site elevation, the scale at the base of the page is legible and can be thrown into software to grab some measurements... which I did.

 

Based on that, it looks like our tower should be about.... drumroll..... 

 

342' tall from ground to crown. 

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20 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

So, the last three pages of that RFP have some site and structural elevations that say the height based on land elevation. While it's pretty blurry and I don't know the exact site elevation, the scale at the base of the page is legible and can be thrown into software to grab some measurements... which I did.

 

Based on that, it looks like our tower should be about.... drumroll..... 

 

342' tall from ground to crown. 

 

For those keeping track at home, 342 feet would put this as the 15th tallest building in the city, just below the Continental Center and above the PNC building.

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Officials break ground on 28-story, $220M downtown Hilton tower

 

Columbus' first new high rise in 12 years is officially under construction.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2019/08/09/officials-break-ground-on-28-story-220m-downtown.html

 

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First Look: Renderings reveal vision for downtown Hilton tower's planned rooftop bar

 

When the $220 million Hilton Columbus Downtown expansion opens in a couple years, yet another rooftop bar will offer views of the skyline.

 

As they broke ground on the 28-story tower, developers of the new hotel unveiled details at last about the rooftop element that will serve the new hotel, headed to a site near the Greater Columbus Convention Center. The Franklin County Convention Facilities Authority added this element to the hotel in order to create a local attraction and generate additional revenue.

 

Architects Cooper Carry and Jeffrey Beers have been designing the interior and exterior of the new hotel for the past year, intending to make it both an events space and a restaurant and bar experience that will attract people within the city as well as capture large socials to be hosted by conventions that use the hotel.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2019/08/09/first-look-renderings-reveal-vision-for-downtown.html

 

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28-Story Hilton Breaks Ground, Showcases Rooftop Bar & Restaurant

 

Work officially began on the new 28-story Hilton hotel at the Columbus Convention Center yesterday. The 463 room expansion of the existing Hilton Hotel will bring their combined total room count to 1,000.

 

“The addition of the tower to the Hilton Columbus Downtown will allow Columbus to attract new meetings and events business,” stated Don Brown, executive director, Franklin County Convention Facilities Authority. “With the additional hotel inventory, we’ll be able to host high-profile, national events that will continue to highlight Columbus as a top destination.”

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/new-28-story-hilton-hotel-columbus-we1

 

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3 minutes ago, CBUS_Res said:

Stumbled across this new rendering in the BizJournal of the new tower 

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This rendering makes it look only marginally taller than the Hyatt, which is kind of surprising. I wonder how many of the 28 floors will be below High Street. 

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28 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

This rendering makes it look only marginally taller than the Hyatt, which is kind of surprising. I wonder how many of the 28 floors will be below High Street. 

 

There will be 2 floors below High St. based on the submitted drawings. The floors are mostly loading docks and employee areas, I don't believe there are any public floors below High St. level.

 

As for the actual height, if my earlier calculations are close the Hilton (342')  should end up roughly 80' taller than the Hyatt Regency (256'). I think that render just looks shorter due to the angle it's composed at with the Hyatt being in the foreground and the Hilton Tower falling more into the background, 

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Been wondering about this! I ride the bus by this site each day and I know they had their "ceremonial ground breaking" a couple weeks ago over the ASAE meeting weekend, but I actually haven't seen anything moving as I go by....granted I can't look below though, lol.

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15 minutes ago, Zyrokai said:

Been wondering about this! I ride the bus by this site each day and I know they had their "ceremonial ground breaking" a couple weeks ago over the ASAE meeting weekend, but I actually haven't seen anything moving as I go by....granted I can't look below though, lol.

I could be wrong, but I swear I read somewhere in the many articles that the ground breaking was strategically scheduled for that conference so the attendee's would witness /attend it however actually activity would not start until late September if not October.

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44 minutes ago, Zyrokai said:

Been wondering about this! I ride the bus by this site each day and I know they had their "ceremonial ground breaking" a couple weeks ago over the ASAE meeting weekend, but I actually haven't seen anything moving as I go by....granted I can't look below though, lol.

 

If the times lines haven't changed, we should see things starting (site mobilization) on September 19. 

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2 hours ago, DevolsDance said:

 

If the times lines haven't changed, we should see things starting (site mobilization) on September 19. 

 

I wasn't sure what "site mobilization" was, so I googled it.  Here's what I got:

 

https://www.levelset.com/blog/construction-mobilization-costs/ -- Mobilization refers to the effort it takes to get a job off the ground. A lot of different activities might be considered mobilization. Sometimes mobilization might be purely administrative, other times they might relate to transportation, or they could refer to actual costs of job site preparation.

 

https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Construction_management:_mobilisation -- Construction management: mobilisation. Mobilisation refers to the activities carried out after the client has appointed the trade contractors, but before the trade contractors commence work on site. It is a preparatory stage during which the majority of activities are managed by the construction manager.

 

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/mobilization.html -- Definition of mobilization: Activation of a contractor's physical and manpower resources for transfer to a construction site until the completion of the contract.

 

Given those definitions, if site mobilization does start on September 19, will it have any visible change on the hotel construction site?  Or is it more behind-the-scenes work for the actual groundbreaking?

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2 hours ago, Columbo said:

 

I wasn't sure what "site mobilization" was, so I googled it.  Here's what I got:

 

https://www.levelset.com/blog/construction-mobilization-costs/ -- Mobilization refers to the effort it takes to get a job off the ground. A lot of different activities might be considered mobilization. Sometimes mobilization might be purely administrative, other times they might relate to transportation, or they could refer to actual costs of job site preparation.

 

https://www.designingbuildings.co.uk/wiki/Construction_management:_mobilisation -- Construction management: mobilisation. Mobilisation refers to the activities carried out after the client has appointed the trade contractors, but before the trade contractors commence work on site. It is a preparatory stage during which the majority of activities are managed by the construction manager.

 

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/mobilization.html -- Definition of mobilization: Activation of a contractor's physical and manpower resources for transfer to a construction site until the completion of the contract.

 

Given those definitions, if site mobilization does start on September 19, will it have any visible change on the hotel construction site?  Or is it more behind-the-scenes work for the actual groundbreaking?

 

Mobilization in this context will be when we see equipment arriving, early staging of materials to begin for foundation and infrastructure, electrical lines covered and moved, site prep like fencing and safe zones, construction trailers, and finally prep for excavation and terraforming.

 

Based on the timelines we will see this all begin September followed by heavy foundation work starting in January. 

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15 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Mobilization in this context will be when we see equipment arriving, early staging of materials to begin for foundation and infrastructure, electrical lines covered and moved, site prep like fencing and safe zones, construction trailers, and finally prep for excavation and terraforming.

 

Based on the timelines we will see this all begin September followed by heavy foundation work starting in January. 

 

They need to move those timelines up a bit to appease my lack of patience. 

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30 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

WE HAVE A PORT-A-JOHN FOLKS! I REPEAT, WE HAVE A PORT-A-JOHN! IT'S HAPPENING!

 

Technically, the first and most important box on a job site. ...Can't have crew until they have someplace to poo. 

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Looks like site mobilization has begun... Wandered up as a truck full of barrels was arriving and this beautiful piece of machinery was being dropped off, there were also people with site survey flags and spray paint walking around. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Pablo said:

^You will know when construction begins in earnest when Convention Center Drive is closed to traffic.

 

Yeah, I couldn't fine a ROW permit for them closing it down anytime soon with the city but I don't possibly see how it could stay open in any way through construction. 

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On 9/16/2019 at 3:21 PM, DevolsDance said:

I spy with my little eye.... 

 

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I feel like I never noticed this empty spot before this whole "where do we build this hotel tower" conversation happened, and then looking at it from this angle it is BONKERS that this land has been left empty the entire time the Convention Center has existed!
 

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I do not have pictures because it was very dark out, but on my commute today on the bus, High Street directly in front of where this will be built is primed and ready with a bunch of orange barrels moving traffic out of the way for construction.

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46 minutes ago, Zyrokai said:

I do not have pictures because it was very dark out, but on my commute today on the bus, High Street directly in front of where this will be built is primed and ready with a bunch of orange barrels moving traffic out of the way for construction.

 

Convention Center Drive by the construction site is also now closed.

 

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2 hours ago, Zyrokai said:

I do not have pictures because it was very dark out, but on my commute today on the bus, High Street directly in front of where this will be built is primed and ready with a bunch of orange barrels moving traffic out of the way for construction.

 

Yep, they began setting up barrels yesterday and today it appears the new traffic flow is up and running. Walked through this morning and they have begun working on the steel expansion joints where High crosses the tracks and road below as well as marking up and delivering equipment to the site now that Convention Center Drive has closed. I expect things will start kicking into gear fairly quickly now that they have cordoned off the site. 

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