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If those sell, there are quite a few other vacant lots over there that they could use to follow these 5 up.  It's a neat area, with an irregular street layout making it feel denser and tightly knit, even with the blank spots.

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If those sell, there are quite a few other vacant lots over there that they could use to follow these 5 up.  It's a neat area, with an irregular street layout making it feel denser and tightly knit, even with the blank spots.

 

Yeah, that Wade Park-Ashbury area is a nice neighborhood, but the current housing stock lacks the sort of diversity that might inspire rapid growth. We'll see what effect these townhomes have.

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Buildings at Cleveland VA sell for $160M to $170M, cutting ties tainted by corruption scandal

 

By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer

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on February 22, 2018 at 1:30 PM, updated February 22, 2018 at 2:46 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - An out-of-state investment firm has purchased three buildings and land at the Louis Stokes Cleveland VA Medical Center, in a $160 million to $170 million deal that cuts lingering ties between the VA and the family of a contractor jailed as part of a major corruption scandal.

 

Real estate records filed Wednesday show that affiliates of CGA Capital, based in Maryland, recently bought the VA's administration building, a 2,000-space parking garage and a 122-bed housing complex that serves homeless veterans. The purchase also included land along Wade Park Avenue, just north of the buildings, between East Boulevard and East 105th Street.

 

The sellers were companies tied to Patricia Lawley, the ex-wife of former contractor and developer Michael Forlani, according to public records. Forlani is serving an eight-year sentence in federal prison in Pennsylvania for racketeering, bribery and other crimes that surfaced during a wide-ranging corruption investigation in Cuyahoga County. He's set for release in May 2019.

 

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2018/02/buildings_at_cleveland_va_sell.html#incart_m-rpt-1

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I just noticed that the above sale included a separate but related transaction involving a vacant parcel at 1519 East Blvd. (at Wade Park Ave.). This quarter-acre parcel was valued at $162,300 for taxes and sold for $3.55 million!

 

The buyer isn't just CGA. There is a partner included the purchase named Woodbranch but I don't who that is and a brief Google search and SOS Business search didn't reveal anything. Officially, the buyers are listed as CGA WADE PARK LAND LLC & WOODBRANCH. What's interesting about this is that the VA couldn't partner, develop or otherwise improve this site as long as its ownership remained affiliated with Michael Forliani. The sale will now allow the VA to work with the new buyer. This is the site....

 

38867713700_2d764019e9_b.jpg1500 East Blvd at Wade Park 2014 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

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Corner of E. 105th and Orville Ave...Wade Park area

 

Groundbreaking caps seven years of work to build Fisher Houses here for families of ailing veterans

By Brian Albrecht, The Plain Dealer, balbrecht@plaind.com

Updated 6:19 PM; Posted 6:19 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - After nearly seven years of grassroots fundraising, the first shovels of dirt were turned Friday for construction of two Greater Cleveland Fisher Houses.

 

The $12 million project is being constructed on a site on East 105th Street, two blocks north of the Louis Stokes Cleveland Veterans Affairs Medical Center.

 

It will provide 32 suites for out-of-town families to stay here at no cost while a veteran/family member is being treated by the VA.

 

About 30-40 such families are currently staying in local hotels each week, supporting an estimated 500 veterans referred here each year from outside the area for treatment in open heart surgery, spinal cord injuries, traumatic brain injury and long-term care.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/03/groundbreaking_caps_seven_year.html

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That rendering is ugh. Is that built up to the street? That looks like it has some sort of cul de sac.

 

I know Mike Brady is a fictional architect from a 1970s sitcom, but is there some new software that mimics what he would design if he were alive? Because this building makes me think that is possible.

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WTF is that? ? ? That design is so out of place.

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Looks like they build a standard design, either red brick or stucco.  To me it looks like 1970's funeral home architecture :(

 

Pittsburgh's is identical:

https://www.fisherhouse.org/programs/houses/house-locations/pennsylvania-va-pittsburgh-healthcare-system/

 

Tennessee has a ranch version:

https://www.fisherhouse.org/programs/houses/house-locations/tennessee-valley-healthcare-system/

 

North Texas gets a balcony and columns:

https://www.fisherhouse.org/programs/houses/house-locations/texas-va-north-texas-health-care-system/

 

San Diego gets the stucco treatment:

https://www.fisherhouse.org/programs/houses/house-locations/california-naval-medical-center-san-diego/

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I think the location of the Fisher Houses is on the east side of E 105th between Lee and Orrville Avenues... would be surprised if they were build up to the sidewalk.  The newer townhomes on the west side of the street one block south (Heritage Lane?) were not.  Strangely, the corner store at E105 and Lee doesn't appear to have been acquired by the VA for the project.

 

https://goo.gl/maps/iUgoRGUZFe32

 

 

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I think the location of the Fisher Houses is on the east side of E 105th between Lee and Orrville Avenues... would be surprised if they were build up to the sidewalk.  The newer townhomes on the west side of the street one block south (Heritage Lane?) were not.  Strangely, the corner store at E105 and Lee doesn't appear to have been acquired by the VA for the project.

 

https://goo.gl/maps/iUgoRGUZFe32

 

 

I have no problem with a setback that the townhomes have if it's like that then fine, it is a house at the end of the day but the rendering looks like they have a built in drop off area like a hospital. YUCK

 

 

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Glenville is it's own neighborhood. It deserves its own thread, especially with how much is supposed to be coming down the pipeline. With that being said I'm cross posting to start it off.

 

BTW this area of Glenville is being branded as "Circle North" clearly a play off of the adjacent University Circle, but as I said it is it's own neighborhood still.

 

The reveal of the project clearly stated it will have 13,500 Sq. feet of commercial space not 30,000 as Cleveland.com stated.

 

41076815791_c5077df032_c.jpgIMG_20180328_115939 by dwainross34, on Flickr

 

40367651734_fb09ff979b_c.jpgIMG_20180328_111807 by dwainross34, on Flickr

 

26205646377_b1155186fb_c.jpgIMG_20180328_120057 by dwainross34, on Flickr

 

41076821841_4f9b1d9dc5_c.jpgDSC_0674 by dwainross34, on Flickr

 

26205655977_5f47f85520_c.jpgDSC_0683 by dwainross34, on Flickr

 

Mayor Frank Jackson unveils $15 million development as first project in his plan for revitalizing struggling neighborhoods

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/03/mayor_frank_jackson_unveils_15.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

 

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Glad to see this vacant lot redone- I pass by this lot often and wondered if/when there would be enough of a market to build on it.  I would give E. 105th another 5 years- as long as University Circle continues to grow in employment, E. 105th has a good chance at becoming more attractive to potential buyers and tenants with jobs nearby.

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Great project.  Kudos to Mayor Jackson and the City of Cleveland.  They got this one right.

I agree, as far as the apartment project, I do wish the brown areas of the building were brick instead of what appears to be wood, it would be a much better fit with the surrounding (what's left over) apartments. I like the over layout of the building though, a real presence on 105 and it sits right by the #10 bus stop.

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Glad to see this vacant lot redone- I pass by this lot often and wondered if/when there would be enough of a market to build on it.  I would give E. 105th another 5 years- as long as University Circle continues to grow in employment, E. 105th has a good chance at becoming more attractive to potential buyers and tenants with jobs nearby.

The best thing I've heard from the project is mixed income and mixed use. Glad to see the city planning projects with the current residents as well as other residents who aren't as well off to afford the new apartments getting built. Inclusion all around.

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Great project.  Kudos to Mayor Jackson and the City of Cleveland.  They got this one right.

I agree, as far as the apartment project, I do wish the brown areas of the building were brick instead of what appears to be wood, it would be a much better fit with the surrounding (what's left over) apartments. I like the over layout of the building though, a real presence on 105 and it sits right by the #10 bus stop.

 

I thought the brown areas were brick or some sort of stone veneer.  But I haven't seen any up close renderings.

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I didn't realize the Glenville planning boundary with UC was along Wade Park Ave. In fact I figured another neighborhood was between UC and Glenville. Smart move to call this area Circle North.

 

And if it doesn't work out, call it CircleBack. ;)

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I've always known the Stokes VA Hospital to be University Circle, not Glenville.  Both properties mentioned here on the on the south side of Wade Park.  Anyone else can agree/confirm?

 

EDIT: This map shows University Circle as extending west all the way to Ansel Rd, with Wade Park Ave as the northern border: http://neocando.case.edu/new_cando/maps_2010/Cuyahoga/Cleveland%20City%20SPAs%20(with%20census%20tracts%20and%20roads).pdf

 

If that's the case, these two posts should go back to the University Circle thread:

 

Buildings at Cleveland VA sell for $160M to $170M, cutting ties tainted by corruption scandal

 

By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer

Email the author | Follow on Twitter

on February 22, 2018 at 1:30 PM, updated February 22, 2018 at 2:46 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - An out-of-state investment firm has purchased three buildings and land at the Louis Stokes Cleveland VA Medical Center, in a $160 million to $170 million deal that cuts lingering ties between the VA and the family of a contractor jailed as part of a major corruption scandal.

 

Real estate records filed Wednesday show that affiliates of CGA Capital, based in Maryland, recently bought the VA's administration building, a 2,000-space parking garage and a 122-bed housing complex that serves homeless veterans. The purchase also included land along Wade Park Avenue, just north of the buildings, between East Boulevard and East 105th Street.

 

The sellers were companies tied to Patricia Lawley, the ex-wife of former contractor and developer Michael Forlani, according to public records. Forlani is serving an eight-year sentence in federal prison in Pennsylvania for racketeering, bribery and other crimes that surfaced during a wide-ranging corruption investigation in Cuyahoga County. He's set for release in May 2019.

 

http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2018/02/buildings_at_cleveland_va_sell.html#incart_m-rpt-1

 

I just noticed that the above sale included a separate but related transaction involving a vacant parcel at 1519 East Blvd. (at Wade Park Ave.). This quarter-acre parcel was valued at $162,300 for taxes and sold for $3.55 million!

 

The buyer isn't just CGA. There is a partner included the purchase named Woodbranch but I don't who that is and a brief Google search and SOS Business search didn't reveal anything. Officially, the buyers are listed as CGA WADE PARK LAND LLC & WOODBRANCH. What's interesting about this is that the VA couldn't partner, develop or otherwise improve this site as long as its ownership remained affiliated with Michael Forliani. The sale will now allow the VA to work with the new buyer. This is the site....

 

38867713700_2d764019e9_b.jpg1500 East Blvd at Wade Park 2014 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr

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That looks like a very positive development for Glenville.

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^^ I put them in this thread because I saw the VA news and possible future development of those lots as being more related to the emerging East 105th corridor redevelopment spreading into Glenville than to other things happening in the rest of University Circle.  Due to street layouts and elevation changes, it's always felt separate from UC to me and more integrated with Glenville to the north.  I could move it back if there are objections to it's inclusion here, though.

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I can't help wondering if slapping the University Circle brand on everything nearby might help.  Glenville is North UC, Fairfax is South UC, etc.  That's the direction this project name seems to be taking, and while I kinda hate it, I can't quite convince myself it's a bad idea.

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It's pretty common that neighborhoods with marketable names "expand", at least in real estate listings, as much as they can.  I'd hate to see Glenville's "brand" pushed aside, but I'd hate even more to see this part of the city continue to miss out on the redevelopment that makes so much sense there.

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I can't help wondering if slapping the University Circle brand on everything nearby might help.  Glenville is North UC, Fairfax is South UC, etc.  That's the direction this project name seems to be taking, and while I kinda hate it, I can't quite convince myself it's a bad idea.

 

You may need to know Washington's suburbs to appreciate the quote from a local realtor: "Chevy Chase is the only thing that keeps Annapolis from abutting Potomac." If the UC brand sells, the UC district will expand.

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I personally feel as though Glenville is historic enough to stand on it's own. Tremont kept its name, Ohio City kept its name, Glenville should be just Glenville. They talk about not gentrifying the neighborhood but calling this area circle north to change the perception of it screams gentrification. Do I understand why they are doing it? Yes. Do I agree or thinks they need to/should? No

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I personally feel as though Glenville is historic enough to stand on it's own. Tremont kept its name, Ohio City kept its name, Glenville should be just Glenville. They talk about not gentrifying the neighborhood but calling this area circle north to change the perception of it screams gentrification. Do I understand why they are doing it? Yes. Do I agree or thinks they need to/should? No

 

There’s no such thing in the history books as “the Tremont Shootout” or Ohio City Shootout or Ohio City Riots either. The fact of the matter is, fair or not, Glenville’s brand still suffers from its history. I’m much more interested in attracting things to help actual people in that neighborhood than I am about what developers choose to call it

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I think there's a possibility for a middle ground where they brand the southern part of the neighborhood for its proximity to UC while still acknowledging that it's Glenville.  Developers and Realtors can refer to it as Circle North while banners and signage in the actual neighborhood say "Circle North: A Glenville Neighborhood" or something like that. "Welcome to Glenville" when you cross Wade Park Ave.

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BTW, the last, sickening episode of the Glenville Shootout occurred at East 105th and Euclid in the old Hotel Haddam. Yet few people ever associate this location with the Glenville Shootout.

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Circle North: A Glenville Neighborhood

 

Shall we make this a rule, then?

 

Duck Island: A Tremont Neighborhood

Waterloo Arts District: A Collinwood Neighborhood

Gordon Square: A Detroit-Shoreway Neighborhood

 

Or can we just Learn to Stop Worrying and Love the Investment?

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Waterloo and Gordon Square definitely also use the Collinwood and Detroit-Shoreway brands. That's my point.

 

I'm not worried, and I love the investment, but I would understand if some might be upset that the minute a part of Glenville improves, it all of a sudden ceases to be Glenville. I think that's a perfectly legitimate concern, especially considering it's a neighborhood with a rich history and proud residents.

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I made a thread for this long ago.  Cleveland has some awkward nomenclatures that could bear some cleaning up.  Glenville is one of the few neighborhoods here with a unique name and successful branding, so I would hesitate to lump it in with anything else, even for short term gain.  And "University Circle" is on my nomenclature hit list already.  I'd rather call that Glenville than vice versa.

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Despite not being a circle, University Circle has been called that for a long time, and houses a university. I don't really know where you're coming from on that one.

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Despite not being a circle, University Circle has been called that for a long time, and houses a university. I don't really know where you're coming from on that one.

 

Except it had a circle....

 

Rendering%20of%20historic%20University%20Circle.jpg

 

UniversityCircle.jpg

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Despite not being a circle, University Circle has been called that for a long time, and houses a university. I don't really know where you're coming from on that one.

 

Well, there's the circle problem.  And it's a little long and cumbersome.  It's not terrible, it's halfway down the hit list.  I do somewhat prefer Doan's Corners.

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