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Take it easy guys.  We're all basically allies here promoting quality urban development.

 

No need for anyone to get bent out of shape going into a beautiful holiday weekend.

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^It's a weird, isolated pocket of downtown surrounded by freeways and railroads. Even walking to Grandview Yard is an uncomfortable journey. I don't think any building design can get over these obstacles.

 

I think the building is OK on it's own.

 

It is how they deal with the parking that is my main complaint. The buildings are ok I guess, and even the layout. The way they deal with and place the parking is problematic for me. One six story garage for the parking would allow for space for another building or more greenspace. No reason for a two story garage and a surface parking lot here.  But it is by far not the most important part of downtown so meh basically.

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^It's a weird, isolated pocket of downtown surrounded by freeways and railroads. Even walking to Grandview Yard is an uncomfortable journey. I don't think any building design can get over these obstacles.

 

I think the building is OK on it's own.

 

It is how they deal with the parking that is my main complaint. The buildings are ok I guess, and even the layout. The way they deal with and place the parking is problematic for me. One six story garage for the parking would allow for space for another building or more greenspace. No reason for a two story garage and a surface parking lot here.  But it is by far not the most important part of downtown so meh basically.

 

Development pressure/demand may entice them to do that at some point... at least that's a possibility.  Surface lots are antiquated in an urban setting, but the good thing is that they are easily buildable.

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First Phase of “The Reach on Goodale” Residences Unveiled

 

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Construction officially broke ground on the new White Castle headquarters building in May, but the second phase of the larger project known as “The Reach on Goodale” is already moving forward. Local firm Architectural Alliance presented plans for the first three residential buildings on the site to the Downtown Commission this morning, seeking input on the design.

 

“This phase focuses on the first three buildings of the five,” stated Architectural Alliance President Brad Parish. “This includes 82 units with a central amenity area featuring a pool deck and outdoor space for bocce ball and grilling.”

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/first-phase-of-the-reach-on-goodale-residences-unveiled-we1

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/07/24/first-look-plans-revealed-for-apartments-at-the.html


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White Castle HQ campus apartments coming into clearer view 

 

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Plans are coming into focus for 254 apartments targeted for the $65 million White Castle headquarters campus redevelopment.

 

The Downtown Commission saw updated concepts for the Reach at Goodale, the planned residential portion of the 21-acre development at 555 W. Goodale Blvd. The five apartment buildings will complement White Castle’s 105,000-square-foot headquarters building near the Arena District.

 

Elford Development, working with Architectural Alliance, White Castle and POD Design, plans to split the residential portion of the Reach at Goodale into two phases, with the first 82 units to be built in three three-story buildings on the northwest edge of the 21-acre development. Two larger five-story buildings will be constructed later. An interior building will have a rooftop pool.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2018/10/23/white-castle-hq-campus-apartments-coming-into.html


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Second office building planned for White Castle headquarters site

 

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Developers have cemented plans for an office building addition to the $65 million redevelopment of the White Castle headquarters.

 

There had been some talk of a second office building in the Reach at Goodale development at 555 W. Goodale Blvd.

 

The mixed-use project includes the restaurant chain's own 105,000-square-foot headquarters building, a 254-unit apartment community, amphitheater and community center. Now, you can add a four-story, 66,000-square-foot office building on the site.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2019/01/22/second-office-building-planned-for-white-castle.html


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Some other updates about White Castle's 'The Reach on Goodale' project.  In addition to White Castle's new 100,000 square foot HQ building and 254-unit apartment community going onto the 555 W. Goodale Street property, a four-story, 66,000 square foot office building is also planned.  Two tenants have recently committed to this building.

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Not your typical corporate HQ: White Castle's new home features a giant throne, a gift shop and a spiral slide

 

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At White Castle's new headquarters, you can skip the stairs and take a slide right into the lobby.

 

Or, as one might call it, the throne room.

 

After years of work, employees of the Columbus-based fast food chain are moving into the new four-story, 105,000-square-foot headquarters that anchors the $65 million Reach on Goodale development at 555 W. Goodale St.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2019/11/19/not-your-typical-corporate-hq-white-castles-new.html

https://www.columbusunderground.com/white-castle-employees-relocate-into-new-hq-building-we1

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^ That spiral slide reminds me of some kind of chute for trash that would end up in an incinerator.  😄  I would want to see where it ended first!  Makes me think of Veruca/Willy Wonka and all.

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On 10/3/2019 at 10:24 AM, cbussoccer said:

Photo of construction progress from a couple weeks ago.

 

White Castle HQ with Grandview Yard in background, Columbus

 

I hadn't noticed the subtle architectural logo at the top of the HQ buildings. That's pretty great! I love how close it is to the highway, too. With Confluence Village built out on the other side this will be such an interesting stretch of highway to drive on (something I never thought I'd say).

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26 minutes ago, jebleprls22 said:

I hadn't noticed the subtle architectural logo at the top of the HQ buildings. That's pretty great! I love how close it is to the highway, too. With Confluence Village built out on the other side this will be such an interesting stretch of highway to drive on (something I never thought I'd say).

And just before this now is the new Cover MyMeds headquarters rising up.  It's finally visible from the highway now as you drive by.  When I think what this area looked like just 10 years ago when I moved and lived down here, it's crazy how many more buildings and infill there has been, and only more to come (Chipotle HQ, AC Hotel, Hilton Hotel, Market Tower, etc.....)  670 through this area is being flanked on each side as you drive through, not a bad thing at all IMO.

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30 minutes ago, Gnoraa said:

And just before this now is the new Cover MyMeds headquarters rising up.  It's finally visible from the highway now as you drive by.  When I think what this area looked like just 10 years ago when I moved and lived down here, it's crazy how many more buildings and infill there has been, and only more to come (Chipotle HQ, AC Hotel, Hilton Hotel, Market Tower, etc.....)  670 through this area is being flanked on each side as you drive through, not a bad thing at all IMO.

 

Don't forget about the 11-story Westminster-Thurber mid-rise that should be underway next year. 

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3 hours ago, Gnoraa said:

And just before this now is the new Cover MyMeds headquarters rising up.  It's finally visible from the highway now as you drive by.  When I think what this area looked like just 10 years ago when I moved and lived down here, it's crazy how many more buildings and infill there has been, and only more to come (Chipotle HQ, AC Hotel, Hilton Hotel, Market Tower, etc.....)  670 through this area is being flanked on each side as you drive through, not a bad thing at all IMO.

 

It would've been even better had Schottenstein gone through with their plan to connect the White Castle site and the stadium.  Despite the Crew getting what they wanted Schottenstein still could've completed about 75% of what they wanted to do though, but that's to be expected out of them!

 

I've edited this twice to fix my percentage and add the picture.  Why the hell did they cancel this!? It could've been 100% completed even with the stadium, really disappointing!

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9 minutes ago, wpcc88 said:

 

It would've been even better had Schottenstein gone through with their plan to connect the White Castle site and the stadium.  Despite the Crew getting what they wanted Schottenstein still could've completed about 75% of what they wanted to do though, but that's to be expected out of them!

 

I've edited this twice to fix my percentage and add the picture.  Why the hell did they cancel this!? It could've been 100% completed even with the stadium, really disappointing!

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I take EVERY proposed project from Schottenstein with a GIGANTIC grain of salt.  Of all the developers in town, they are the least reliable in my personal opinion.  My guess is they will develop this land someday long down the line, or pawn/sell it off to someone else because they can't get their stuff together to make anything materialize.  I will say it is definitely a unique site with some complicated workarounds, however I don't think they are the developer with the skill to make it happen.  Again just my opinion, very unreliable and "schotty" track record.

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18 minutes ago, Gnoraa said:

I take EVERY proposed project from Schottenstein with a GIGANTIC grain of salt.  Of all the developers in town, they are the least reliable in my personal opinion.  My guess is they will develop this land someday long down the line, or pawn/sell it off to someone else because they can't get their stuff together to make anything materialize.  I will say it is definitely a unique site with some complicated workarounds, however I don't think they are the developer with the skill to make it happen.  Again just my opinion, very unreliable and "schotty" track record.

 

The major issue was they put out a proposal for land they didn't own and I'm not sure the rail lines or Savko will ever give up the land. It was a developer basically playing Sim City.

 

Edit: They said they were 'in talks' but I'm still not entirely sure it was ever a serious thing. ESPECIALLY when schottenstein said 'oh. We decided to give the land up for the Crew'.... again, land they don't own.... o_O

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3 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

 

The major issue was they put out a proposal for land they didn't own and I'm not sure the rail lines or Savko will ever give up the land. It was a developer basically playing Sim City. 

Thank you for clarifying, I didn't realize they didn't own the land.  I will say working around/with the rail companies is horrendous.  They still have a ton of power and don't budge or coordinate easily with projects.  Considering this already oddly shaped piece of property is bound on all sides by rail lines, it's definitely gonna take some creativity in the end to make it happen.  I do like how you say a "developer basically playing Sim City" haha seems very spot on lol

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1 hour ago, wpcc88 said:

 

It would've been even better had Schottenstein gone through with their plan to connect the White Castle site and the stadium.  Despite the Crew getting what they wanted Schottenstein still could've completed about 75% of what they wanted to do though, but that's to be expected out of them!

 

I've edited this twice to fix my percentage and add the picture.  Why the hell did they cancel this!? It could've been 100% completed even with the stadium, really disappointing!

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It would be nice to see something like just the top section built.

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This needs to happen.

 

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Designers share new details about the amphitheater coming to White Castle's $65M Reach on Goodale project

 

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Designers unveiled the first details of the amphitheater, which has been dubbed Reach Park, at Tuesday morning's meeting of the Downtown Commission. It will be built in the space previously occupied by the restaurant company's longtime headquarters building at 555 W. Goodale St., once that building's demolition is complete.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/01/28/designers-share-new-details-about-the-amphitheater.html


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Pulled these from the architectural plans in the link. It's relatively 'meh' IMO. 

 

There are no other renderings of the park as a whole. Just B/W schematics. 

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A clam strip!

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White Castle adding retail piece to campus redevelopment

 

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White Castle has revealed what it wants to build in front of its headquarters.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2020/02/21/white-castle-adding-retail-piece-to-campus.html


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Restaurant Proposed for Final Phase of White Castle HQ Site

 

The Downtown Commission got its first look today at the final piece of the 20-acre development known as The Reach on Goodale.

 

A one-and-a-half story commercial building has been proposed for a 0.8-acre site at the development’s northern edge. ArchAll’s Brad Parish told the commission that the building would be a little less than 10,000 square feet in size and would likely hold a “destination restaurant and/or retail” tenant.

 

Plans show a large terrace on the south side of the building that would overlook the outdoor amphitheater the commission approved for the center of the development last month.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/restaurant-proposed-for-final-phase-of-white-castle-hq-site-bw1

 

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Is that regional office on 5th even staying open? Like what's the point when a giant new HQ is 3 minutes down the road? Not very regional.....

 

Off-Topic: Also.....I've always wondered if Greek Express on 5th Ave was once a White Castle.

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53 minutes ago, Zyrokai said:

Off-Topic: Also.....I've always wondered if Greek Express on 5th Ave was once a White Castle.

 

It was a KFC.


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15 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

But not a White Castle then? Because people want a White Castle here or at least one on 5th near the regional office.

 

Does the flagship store on High Street not count? It's a mile and a half away; CNBC filmed a story on the company inside of that location as well.

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2 hours ago, Zyrokai said:

Is that regional office on 5th even staying open? Like what's the point when a giant new HQ is 3 minutes down the road? Not very regional.....

 

I wouldn't be surprised if they kept that, it has more to do with store operations than the HQ.  A lot of companies maintain those type of "regional" offices when the HQ is right down the road.  

 

edit to say: I wouldn't be surprised if any training that took place in that building moved to HQ though.

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I am so pleasantly surprised with the aesthetics and material quality of the HQ building. A truly unique and dynamic building that really does situate that entire parcel. It'll be so great with the park right out front and the activation by the event space.

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