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ICE is basically full of the same type of people who think bragging about sexual assault is normal bro talk and who shoot innocent kids with toy guns and then blame the kids for acting irresponsibly.  They get their rocks off on destroying lives.  The usual suspects will, of course, say nothing about it. 

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Siri: What’s irony?

 

Siri: The party that constantly touts Christianity as a religion of love & grace & claims Christianity is under attack in America is proudly deporting a Christian man NAMED JESUS whose son is dying from cancer. https://t.co/bZvzzhfWLz


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Point of fact: The Republicans filibustered the Dream Act in 2010 which had 50 votes in the Senate and had already passed the House.

 

It was true and it's true now: Republicans are the problem. https://t.co/LIO4l3LpXg


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Lincoln, speaking in Cincinnati, Feb. 12, 1861: "I esteem foreigners no better than other people, nor any worse. They are all of the great family of men....If they can better their condition by leaving their old homes, there is nothing in my heart to forbid them coming...."


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Lincoln, speaking in Cincinnati, Feb. 12, 1861: "I esteem foreigners no better than other people, nor any worse. They are all of the great family of men....If they can better their condition by leaving their old homes, there is nothing in my heart to forbid them coming...."

 

So you're saying Lincoln hated America? 

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Apparently.

 

Father of three who came to US to escape violence arrested by ICE after calling police to report intruder: https://t.co/ODhr4jVJye


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I’d take in a heartbeat a group of newly naturalized American citizens over the spoiled native-born know-nothings of CPAC, who today booed at the mention of citizenship naturalization ceremonies.


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An American hero. She's standing up for what's right, not for what's legal....

 

ICE attacks Oakland mayor for warning residents about immigration sweeps, says 800 criminals eluded capture

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-oakland-mayor-ice-20180228-story.html


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Dear God. If you click that link, Melania looks like Donald Trump with that scowl and that crazy look in her eye.

 

That's an extremely fascinating article. It seems as though the EB-1 visa was initially intended to bring exceptionally intelligent or skilled workers into the United States, for our benefit.

 

The problem that I see with that, is that it's much more beneficial for our society to grant that sort of visa to doctors or engineers; folks who obviously would contribute a lot and benefit our society.

 

In Melania's case, she was essentially granted this kind of visa for being highly skilled in 'being 'hot.' A model's looks decline rapidly. A doctor or engineer's skill set grows. Not to mention, modeling is a profession that just doesn't contribute to the betterment of society in any significant way; I mean lets be honest.

 

She was essentially allowed to stay here because she's 'eye candy.' Well, she's no spring chicken anymore so I say the gig is up. Ship her back to where she came from.

 

 

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Hey, if you think a football player kneeling disrespects the troops, do I have a story for you....

 

EXCLUSIVE: Trump admin seeking to deport wife of .@USArmy #7th Special Forces Group #veteran -hearing Monday in Arlington, Va.  https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/02/28/wife-of-7th-special-forces-group-vet-faces-deportation-under-tighter-immigration-rules/


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Yep. There is no purpose to this except cruelty.


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Yep. There is no purpose to this except cruelty.

 

The same people that approve usually do so with "the law is the law", and yet completely ignore the ever-growing list of legal and ethical violations with Trump and his people.  You're correct, it's just about spiteful cruelty.

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Green card-holding veteran facing deportation moved to detention facility as family lashes out

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-green-card-veteran-moved-20180227-story.html

 

A green card is a privilege and it is (as it should be) revoked if the holder is found guilty of an aggravated felony as defined by immigration law. The article says "crimes" so I assume that means this guy has multiple felony convictions. This shouldn't even be a news story - take his green card away and give it to someone else who is waiting for one, someone who (hopefully) won't commit aggravated felonies.

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Even though it appears the traumatic experience says he had in the military may have contributed to his drug abuse? I think this man has earned his green card, more than many citizens have earned their right to stay. And that certainly includes our corrupt, rapist president.


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Green card-holding veteran facing deportation moved to detention facility as family lashes out

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-green-card-veteran-moved-20180227-story.html

 

A green card is a privilege and it is (as it should be) revoked if the holder is found guilty of an aggravated felony as defined by immigration law. The article says "crimes" so I assume that means this guy has multiple felony convictions. This shouldn't even be a news story - take his green card away and give it to someone else who is waiting for one, someone who (hopefully) won't commit aggravated felonies.

 

He has one felony cocaine conviction and a misdemeaner marijuana possession. His life began to fall apart when he was kicked out of the military for smoking marijuana. 

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^^ I had to dig deep and ended up on a right-wing site to find this, as every mainstream source omitted the details (for some reason?): he was charged for trafficking in 2008, and served half of his 15 year sentence. The deportation hearings began when he was released from jail back in 2016, prior to Trump's presidency. This was all by the book under Obama's administration.

 

Anyway, if this had been a lesser charge of possession it'd be a different story and discretion might be warranted. But that's not the case, he isn't just a user, he's a distributor.

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^^ I had to dig deep and ended up on a right-wing site to find this, as every mainstream source omitted the details (for some reason?): he was charged for trafficking in 2008, and served half of his 15 year sentence. The deportation hearings began when he was released from jail back in 2016, prior to Trump's presidency. This was all by the book under Obama's administration.

 

Anyway, if this had been a lesser charge of possession it'd be a different story and discretion might be warranted. But that's not the case, he isn't just a user, he's a distributor.

 

There is very little difference between users and sellers for the most part.  I have worked with people with addiction and most of them have sold drugs to support their habit. 

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I wasn't a fan of Obama's deportation practices either. And to further demonstrate the ongoing, worsening cruelty....

 

‘They’re going after single moms’: Mother to be deported while three daughters as young as 9 stay behind

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/theyre-going-single-moms-mother-deported-three-daughters-young-9-stay-behind/


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Trump is bashing California and Gov. Brown. California's biggest problem is that it is being held back by being in the United States...

 

- 6th largest economy in the world.

 

- Continually outpaces the U.S. in job growth.

 

- Turned a 2010 deficit into a record surplus.

 

- Leads the national economy from personal income to high-wage jobs and more.

 

https://t.co/hF1wufJ9L0

 

I agree with you, Trump's attacks on Brown were largely baseless and unfair. But, there is a MASSIVE exodus from some areas of California right now due to the cost of living there. That is an issue that needs to be fixed - and, to be fair, isn't entirely on Gov. Brown either.

 

California is not losing people.  It has grown by 2.282 million people since 2010, which is 2nd only to Texas.  When people talk about California losing people, they are exclusively talking about domestic migration, where it's lost about 560,000 since 2010.  However, international migration more than makes up for it so that net migration has been more than half a million, the 3rd highest of any state.  It also has the #1 natural growth total of any state.  So when people say the state is having some "massive exodus", they need to be very careful with that.  28 states lose population domestically, including Ohio.  Most of them are not expensive or overtly liberal states.  Simply put, if people want to suggest that California is doing poorly, population isn't really a very good argument for that.

 

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Trump is bashing California and Gov. Brown. California's biggest problem is that it is being held back by being in the United States...

 

- 6th largest economy in the world.

 

- Continually outpaces the U.S. in job growth.

 

- Turned a 2010 deficit into a record surplus.

 

- Leads the national economy from personal income to high-wage jobs and more.

 

https://t.co/hF1wufJ9L0

 

I agree with you, Trump's attacks on Brown were largely baseless and unfair. But, there is a MASSIVE exodus from some areas of California right now due to the cost of living there. That is an issue that needs to be fixed - and, to be fair, isn't entirely on Gov. Brown either.

 

California is not losing people.  It has grown by 2.282 million people since 2010, which is 2nd only to Texas.  When people talk about California losing people, they are exclusively talking about domestic migration, where it's lost about 560,000 since 2010.  However, international migration more than makes up for it so that net migration has been more than half a million, the 3rd highest of any state.  It also has the #1 natural growth total of any state.  So when people say the state is having some "massive exodus", they need to be very careful with that.  28 states lose population domestically, including Ohio.  Most of them are not expensive or overtly liberal states.  Simply put, if people want to suggest that California is doing poorly, population isn't really a very good argument for that.

 

 

They are growing because they choose not to enforce the immigration laws, so their growth is almost by definition detrimental to the rest of the nation.

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Trump is bashing California and Gov. Brown. California's biggest problem is that it is being held back by being in the United States...

 

- 6th largest economy in the world.

 

- Continually outpaces the U.S. in job growth.

 

- Turned a 2010 deficit into a record surplus.

 

- Leads the national economy from personal income to high-wage jobs and more.

 

https://t.co/hF1wufJ9L0

 

I agree with you, Trump's attacks on Brown were largely baseless and unfair. But, there is a MASSIVE exodus from some areas of California right now due to the cost of living there. That is an issue that needs to be fixed - and, to be fair, isn't entirely on Gov. Brown either.

 

California is not losing people.  It has grown by 2.282 million people since 2010, which is 2nd only to Texas.  When people talk about California losing people, they are exclusively talking about domestic migration, where it's lost about 560,000 since 2010.  However, international migration more than makes up for it so that net migration has been more than half a million, the 3rd highest of any state.  It also has the #1 natural growth total of any state.  So when people say the state is having some "massive exodus", they need to be very careful with that.  28 states lose population domestically, including Ohio.  Most of them are not expensive or overtly liberal states.  Simply put, if people want to suggest that California is doing poorly, population isn't really a very good argument for that.

 

 

They are growing because they choose not to enforce the immigration laws, so their growth is almost by definition detrimental to the rest of the nation.

 

Immigration laws are not a state function.

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Trump is bashing California and Gov. Brown. California's biggest problem is that it is being held back by being in the United States...

 

- 6th largest economy in the world.

 

- Continually outpaces the U.S. in job growth.

 

- Turned a 2010 deficit into a record surplus.

 

- Leads the national economy from personal income to high-wage jobs and more.

 

https://t.co/hF1wufJ9L0

 

I agree with you, Trump's attacks on Brown were largely baseless and unfair. But, there is a MASSIVE exodus from some areas of California right now due to the cost of living there. That is an issue that needs to be fixed - and, to be fair, isn't entirely on Gov. Brown either.

 

California is not losing people.  It has grown by 2.282 million people since 2010, which is 2nd only to Texas.  When people talk about California losing people, they are exclusively talking about domestic migration, where it's lost about 560,000 since 2010.  However, international migration more than makes up for it so that net migration has been more than half a million, the 3rd highest of any state.  It also has the #1 natural growth total of any state.  So when people say the state is having some "massive exodus", they need to be very careful with that.  28 states lose population domestically, including Ohio.  Most of them are not expensive or overtly liberal states.  Simply put, if people want to suggest that California is doing poorly, population isn't really a very good argument for that.

 

 

Many of the Californian's leaving are people like my Uncle, who ran a successful business, sold it and is now facing the new owners terminating his consulting contract.  He wants to cash out of his house and move someplace cheaper, where he can get a mid level sales job to cover his healthcare instead of retiring early.  He doesn't hate California, but feels he'd be stupid to sit on the house at this point in his life. 

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America is not alone in tightening immigration laws and enacting travel restrictions.

 

EU presses tough migration stance with more Turkey money, stricter visa rules

 

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union on Wednesday said it would chip in another three billion euros ($3.7 billion) for Syrian refugees in Turkey, and restrict travel for countries refusing to take back their citizens who fail to obtain asylum in Europe.

 

 

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America is not alone in tightening immigration laws and enacting travel restrictions.

 

EU presses tough migration stance with more Turkey money, stricter visa rules

 

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union on Wednesday said it would chip in another three billion euros ($3.7 billion) for Syrian refugees in Turkey, and restrict travel for countries refusing to take back their citizens who fail to obtain asylum in Europe.

 

it's definitely proof that we don't have a monopoly on stupid ideas.

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However, international migration more than makes up for it...

 

For now...

 

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Undocumented immigrants aren’t counted by the Census, so try harder.  And even with no immigrants, California would still have one of the largest state growth totals.

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Undocumented immigrants aren’t counted by the Census, so try harder.  And even with no immigrants, California would still have one of the largest state growth totals.

 

Jon, you're using facts and data.  This makes no sense and is a losing strategy.

 

Ram has a meme.


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Trump is bashing California and Gov. Brown. California's biggest problem is that it is being held back by being in the United States...

 

- 6th largest economy in the world.

 

- Continually outpaces the U.S. in job growth.

 

- Turned a 2010 deficit into a record surplus.

 

- Leads the national economy from personal income to high-wage jobs and more.

 

https://t.co/hF1wufJ9L0

 

I agree with you, Trump's attacks on Brown were largely baseless and unfair. But, there is a MASSIVE exodus from some areas of California right now due to the cost of living there. That is an issue that needs to be fixed - and, to be fair, isn't entirely on Gov. Brown either.

 

California is not losing people.  It has grown by 2.282 million people since 2010, which is 2nd only to Texas.  When people talk about California losing people, they are exclusively talking about domestic migration, where it's lost about 560,000 since 2010.  However, international migration more than makes up for it so that net migration has been more than half a million, the 3rd highest of any state.  It also has the #1 natural growth total of any state.  So when people say the state is having some "massive exodus", they need to be very careful with that.  28 states lose population domestically, including Ohio.  Most of them are not expensive or overtly liberal states.  Simply put, if people want to suggest that California is doing poorly, population isn't really a very good argument for that.

 

 

They are growing because they choose not to enforce the immigration laws, so their growth is almost by definition detrimental to the rest of the nation.

 

You and Ram must shop at the same place for your talking points.  A little more than a million immigrants came to California since 2010, a large number not from Latin America.  It’s natural growth, however, added more than 1.7 million. 

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He does have a valid point, Trump does want to cut the number of people legally allowed into this country in half.

 

Yes, the far right not only has a problem with illegal immigrants but LEGAL immigrants as well.  It's quite sad.


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He does have a valid point, Trump does want to cut the number of people legally allowed into this country in half.

 

Yes, the far right not only has a problem with illegal immigrants but LEGAL immigrants as well.  It's quite sad.

 

They are quite fine with Norwegian immigrants.  It's the one's from Africa that they have issues with.  Don't call them racist though because you are just falling into their trap.

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They are quite fine with Norwegian immigrants.  It's the one's from Africa that they have issues with.  Don't call them racist though because you are just falling into their trap.

 

Favoring Norwegians over people from "sh!thole nations" falls in line with a Nordicist conception of the Aryan race.


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