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https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-says-will-fail-1m-goal-coronavirus-test-kits-2020-3

 

March 6th:

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The White House says it will fail to meet its goal of providing enough coronavirus test kits for 1 million people by the end of the week

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-03-10/millions-of-coronavirus-test-kits-available-soon-pence-says-as-us-cases-top-700

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TUESDAY, March 10, 2020 (HealthDay News) -- Millions of much-needed testing kits for COVID-19 are on the way to clinics and labs nationwide, Vice President Mike Pence told reporters during a White House briefing Monday evening.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/26/the-us-has-tested-552000-people-for-coronavirus-thats-not-enough-says-comedian-kathy-griffin/#3e01edea5147

 

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Vice President Mike Pence said Thursday the U.S. has tested 552,000 people for coronavirus

 

So where are these "million" tests that were coming MARCH SIXTH??


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I hope New York makes a deal with Canada or an overseas nation for ventilators. I suspect Michigan, Illinois and other states will follow suit. If the US government continues to pick winners and losers in this life-and-death struggle, he will force those states to declare their independence from a tyrant.

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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What's notable about this crisis is what it's doing to our standing in the world as well. 

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Trump is now thrashing about on Twitter trying to get GM and Ford to produce more ventilators. 

 

I'm not sure the orange man knows he can invoke the DPA to get them to do it - something he should have done weeks ago.


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"Just opening up the Lordstown plant" wouldn't even do any good if GM lacks the tooling and materials to get production up to 40,000 ventilators. I didn't even know car companies had the capability to make ventilators in-house.


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4 minutes ago, BigDipper 80 said:

"Just opening up the Lordstown plant" wouldn't even do any good if GM lacks the tooling and materials to get production up to 40,000 ventilators. I didn't even know car companies had the capability to make ventilators in-house.

I saw where Ford was using seat circulation fans to make respirators for healthcare workers. Making ventilators is a completely different task. Could we make any or enough for it to even matter at this point?

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GM does not own the Lordstown plant. You would think the President would know that. That's what happens when government is run by fail sons.

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27 minutes ago, gottaplan said:

and despite all that's been posted above, somehow Trump's approval rating is at an all-time-high....

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

 

Pretty interesting thread on twitter from @drjasonjohnson regarding polling during crises. Sorry I can't seem to post a link. 

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30 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

Pretty interesting thread on twitter from @drjasonjohnson regarding polling during crises. Sorry I can't seem to post a link. 

 

 

This crisis is just unfolding.  Similar to Bush post-Katrina, there's an immediate bump, sort of "rallying around the flag."  Once people realize how bad Trump is handling this and begin to feel the effects, it's much more likely his approval rating falls.

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There was an article I saw about how low his bounce has been compared to other crises though. The bounce he's gotten mainly consists of 17% of Democrats who approve.

 

In the end, I'm not sure coronavirus will impact the election much. Polarization is that strong.

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15 minutes ago, DarkandStormy said:

 

 

This crisis is just unfolding.  Similar to Bush post-Katrina, there's an immediate bump, sort of "rallying around the flag."  Once people realize who bad Trump is handling this and begin to feel the effects, it's much more likely his approval rating falls.

I agree with your assessment.  But we've all been wrong before.  Biden has suddenly become invisible...

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8 minutes ago, gottaplan said:

I agree with your assessment.  But we've all been wrong before.  Biden has suddenly become invisible...

 

I've seen this repeated a lot online but it's not really true. Biden has been posting video updates from his house and doing interviews. Just so much of the media is focused on the daily briefings of elected officials and response efforts by the government (or lack thereof) that it is getting drowned out. 

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24 minutes ago, DEPACincy said:

 

 Just so much of the media is focused on the daily briefings of elected officials and response efforts by the government (or lack thereof) that it is getting drowned out. 

so we're in agreement

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Here's a good breakdown on the approval rating and a comparison to other President's approvals during their relevant crisis: https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Mar27.html#item-2

 

While some have been higher, some have had mild bumps. IMO these were taken just around the few days he actually acted "Presidential." It will be interesting to see if this trend continues in the wake of his call for an Easter revival of the economy. 


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-Friedrich Nietzsche

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54 minutes ago, gottaplan said:

so we're in agreement

 

Sorry, I thought you meant he was MIA. I didn't realize you meant he wasn't getting any media attention. That is definitely true. 

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This guy is so far into 25th Amendment territory, it's borderline comical/terrifying....

 

A year ago he credited GM for selling it. Why does anyone still support this armchair president? 

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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We're living in an idiocracy ruled by a kakistocracy....

 

As Trump signals readiness to break with experts, his online base assails Fauci

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-trump-signals-readiness-to-break-with-experts-his-online-base-assails-fauci/ar-BB11LjWL


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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3 hours ago, JYP said:

Here's a good breakdown on the approval rating and a comparison to other President's approvals during their relevant crisis: https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Mar27.html#item-2

 

While some have been higher, some have had mild bumps. IMO these were taken just around the few days he actually acted "Presidential." It will be interesting to see if this trend continues in the wake of his call for an Easter revival of the economy. 

 

W Bush had a 90% approval rating simply for being in office on 9/11.  If anything, Trump's numbers are very low in a time of crisis.  That said, Americans are proving that we are some of the dumbest people in the entire world.  A crisis like this was inevitable with the sociopathic incompetence of this administration. 

 

Meanwhile, Trump is demanding Michigan's governor be nice to him or he won't send them federal medical supplies.  He is a murderer as far as I'm concerned.

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The virus won’t care obviously anyone’s politics. At the moment it is likely the bulk of the people that are affected are possibly Democrats at least happening in the blue counties. However as this goes on over the next few months it is going to gut rural hospitals that will not be able to keep up. There was a graphic I saw a week ago that showed counties that voted for trump and did not have a ventilator in their rural hospitals in that county. The graphic was probably 40-50% of the country’s red counties. 

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I hope he has a debilitating stroke and survives for 30 more years drooling into a pan and sh!tting in a diaper....

 

And

 

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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6 hours ago, DarkandStormy said:

 

 

This crisis is just unfolding.  Similar to Bush post-Katrina, there's an immediate bump, sort of "rallying around the flag."  Once people realize how bad Trump is handling this and begin to feel the effects, it's much more likely his approval rating falls.

 

The only difference is, Bush didn't have a cult built on racist foundations.   The MAGA Klan will look past any of Trump's shortcomings as long as he keeps the dog whistle on 10.  

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Photos from today's "ship sendoff" will likely become Trump's version of George Bush's "Mission Accomplished" stunt.  

 

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Odd thing for the Secretary of Interior to do:

@mahtowin1: BREAKING: The Bureau of Indian Affairs today told the Mashpee Wampanoag tribe  that the Secretary of the Interior has ordered that their reservation be disestablished and their land be taken out of trust. https://mashpeewampanoagtribe-nsn.gov/news/2020/3/27/message-from-the-chairman-we-will-take-action-to-prevent-the-loss-of-our-land
 

@TC02472: @mahtowin1 Ahh it all makes sense now.  

The Tribe had a line on a MA Casino license.... trump wants it for himself and his casino buddies (and likely Kraft) for a casino, golf course resort.  

So .. eliminate the tribe ... eliminate the “problem”.

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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And

 

Edited by KJP

"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Two quotes to best encapsulate what we’re up against with our leadership...real quotes from the leader of the free world: 

 

“People are surprised that I understand it.  Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability.  Maybe I should have done that instead of running for President.”

- President Trump, 7 Mar 2020


"You can call it a germ, you can call it a flu, you can call it a virus, you know you can call it many different names. I'm not sure anybody even knows what it is." 

- President Trump, 27 Mar 2020

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Wow....

An AWESOME response 

 

 

Edited by KJP

"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Pretty amazing how quickly things went from:

"We only have 15 cases.  We have it airtight.  I'm awesome!"
to:

"Only 200k people are going to die.  I'm awesome!"


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On 3/25/2020 at 2:24 PM, taestell said:

 

True, but by making statements like this, Trump is setting the stage for some really scary stuff to happen. If Trump tells his followers to go out and live their lives normally, we might start to see far right business owners illegally reopening their businesses and citizens ignoring the governor's shelter-in-place orders. It's going to put us all at risk. If this happens en masse, how the police possibly crack down on it all at once? The only way these closures will be effective at stopping the spread of the virus is if the vast majority of citizens cooperate.

 

31 counties in Ohio have already passed "Second Amendment sanctuary" laws to own the libs, declaring that they simply will not enforce any gun control laws that the federal government passes. Will they also start passing "Chinese virus sanctuary" laws stating that sheriffs will no longer enforce any of the governor's business closure or shelter-in-place orders?

 

This stuff is scary enough as it is with most people staying calm and obeying the governor's orders. The last thing we need is large swaths of the population ignoring the orders, police and sheriff's departments rebelling, and diametrically opposing statements coming from governors and the president.

 

 

also scary will be when jesus tells dewine when its time to reopen.

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Not sure if this was shared over the weekend.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/us/testing-coronavirus-pandemic.html

 

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But as the deadly virus spread from China with ferocity across the United States between late January and early March, large-scale testing of people who might have been infected did not happen — because of technical flaws, regulatory hurdles, business-as-usual bureaucracies and lack of leadership at multiple levels, according to interviews with more than 50 current and former public health officials, administration officials, senior scientists and company executives.

 

The result was a lost month, when the world’s richest country — armed with some of the most highly trained scientists and infectious disease specialists — squandered its best chance of containing the virus’s spread. Instead, Americans were left largely blind to the scale of a looming public health catastrophe.

 

The absence of robust screening until it was “far too late” revealed failures across the government, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, the former C.D.C. director. Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins, said the Trump administration had “incredibly limited” views of the pathogen’s potential impact. Dr. Margaret Hamburg, the former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, said the lapse enabled “exponential growth of cases.”

 

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Mr. Azar, 52, who chaired the coronavirus task force until late February, when Vice President Mike Pence took charge, had been at odds for months with the White House over other issues. The task force’s chief liaison to the president was Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, who was being forced out by Mr. Trump. Without high-level interest — or demands for action — the testing issue festered.

 

At the start of that crucial lost month, when his government could have rallied, the president was distracted by impeachment and dismissive of the threat to the public’s health or the nation’s economy. By the end of the month, Mr. Trump claimed the virus was about to dissipate in the United States, saying: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”

 

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In a statement, Judd Deere, a White House spokesman, said that “any suggestion that President Trump did not take the threat of Covid-19 seriously or that the United States was not prepared is false.” He added that at Mr. Trump’s direction, the administration had “expanded testing capacities.”

 

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But faced with the coronavirus, Mr. Trump chose not to have the White House lead the planning until nearly two months after it began. Mr. Obama’s global health office had been disbanded a year earlier. And until Mr. Pence took charge, the task force lacked a single White House official with the power to compel action.

 

A pretty long look at the governmental failures that led to the increased spread of covid-19 - worth a read, imo.


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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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5 minutes ago, DarkandStormy said:

 

Trump compared this to the flu all the way back last week when he was going to open the country.  

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Poor little man...

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Edited by KJP

"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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