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I consider various sources and piece together what I think really happened or determine what is important because media outlets all have ulterior motives, you have to be a thinker and extract the real news.

 

LOL!  Remember that time you posted two articles with false information from your biased sources about illegals being allowed to register to vote in California by getting a driver's license?  Yeah, I went straight to the source (the California DMV) and proved you wrong and you repeatedly ignored that.  You aren't interested in the truth.

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PUPPET SHOW UPDATE:

Trump bemoaned the invasion of Crimea until he struck a deal with Putin last summer at RNC/Cleveland.

 

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gop-policy-ukraine-wikileaks-dnc-2017-1

An unverified dossier provided to US intelligence officials alleges that President-elect Donald Trump "agreed to sideline" the issue of Russian intervention in Ukraine during his campaign after Russia promised to feed the emails it stole from prominent Democrats' inboxes to WikiLeaks.

 

 

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I'm actually encouraged by Trump's health care plan/goals.  It seems like it would be a significant improvement on the ACA.  Coverage for everyone, lower premiums, lower deductibles, and more choices as far as the plan you want and the doctor you prefer.  All this while getting rid of the mandate, keeping the ban on denying coverage for pre-existing conditions, and allowing children to stay on their parents' plans through the age of 26.  As long as he stays the course on those issues, I'm with The Donald on this one.

 

Agreed.  It looks unlikely that any part of the "replace" (currently being dreamed up by the GOP congressional contingents despite years of "planning" for this day) will resemble Trumps plan.  This could be his first full-frontal confrontation with Congress after inauguration.  Should get interesting.

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I consider various sources and piece together what I think really happened or determine what is important because media outlets all have ulterior motives, you have to be a thinker and extract the real news.

 

LOL!  Remember that time you posted two articles with false information from your biased sources about illegals being allowed to register to vote in California by getting a driver's license?  Yeah, I went straight to the source (the California DMV) and proved you wrong and you repeatedly ignored that.  You aren't interested in the truth.

You never proved anything, I probably lost interest once you posted a CNN or MSNBC link that said everything was peaches.  Much like how I've lost interest with down4cle, I gave he/she a simple task of outlining actions taken by Obama against Russia/China hacking in his 8 years, and I get nothing more than Sasquatch stories.

 

It is common knowledge that "non-US citizens" vote in California and other states where D's have legislated for loose voter rules, i.e. no ID required.  I mean why else would they want loose voter laws, duh???

 

Now, here is something straight from the Democrat horses mouth admitting voter fraud.  You can copy/paste this type of crap going on in places like SF, LA, Chicago, etc, etc..

 

http://projectveritas.com/video/hidden-camera-nyc-democratic-election-commissioner-i-think-there-is-a-lot-of-voter-fraud/

 

Please explain?

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Now, here is something straight from the Democrat horses mouth admitting voter fraud.  You can copy/paste this type of crap going on in places like SF, LA, Chicago, etc, etc..

http://projectveritas.com/video/hidden-camera-nyc-democratic-election-commissioner-i-think-there-is-a-lot-of-voter-fraud/

Please explain?

Now, here is something faked up by James O'Keefe.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/

The videos are, as is typical of O'Keefe's, work somewhat of a gish gallop, comprising a constellation of allegations and assertions that is virtually impossible to fact check without complete clips of the involved conversations. Nearly all the videos used stitched-together, out-of-context remarks with no indication of what occurred or what was discussed just before and after the included portions.

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Best part about this is how Putin openly compares Trump to his corrupt puppet Yanukovych.

 

Subtle. Very subtle.

 

https://t.co/RKfwHGVRfr


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Now, here is something straight from the Democrat horses mouth admitting voter fraud.  You can copy/paste this type of crap going on in places like SF, LA, Chicago, etc, etc..

http://projectveritas.com/video/hidden-camera-nyc-democratic-election-commissioner-i-think-there-is-a-lot-of-voter-fraud/

Please explain?

No, here is something faked up by James O'Keefe.

http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/18/project-veritas-election-videos/

The videos are, as is typical of O'Keefe's, work somewhat of a gish gallop, comprising a constellation of allegations and assertions that is virtually impossible to fact check without complete clips of the involved conversations. Nearly all the videos used stitched-together, out-of-context remarks with no indication of what occurred or what was discussed just before and after the included portions.

Another Bigfoot believer..

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Another example of Obama doing nothing....

 

US Marines have arrived in Norway for a six-month deployment. Another sign of NATO solidarity. @NATOSource https://t.co/1Lm88Wtqgm

 


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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O'Keefe has gone far past the point "never cry wolf".  He has been caught too many times (each and every time, in fact) manipulating his target audience.  For anyone outside of Sean Hannity viewers, he doesn't have any credibility.  It's one of those situations where he reached too far.  He could've just ran with what he had and it would have been somewhat damaging.  But he was too motivated by self-interest and profit to care.  He probably has done quite well for himself, as have all others in the Hannity/Limbaugh business of selling fear to the most easily scared segments of society.

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I consider various sources and piece together what I think really happened or determine what is important because media outlets all have ulterior motives, you have to be a thinker and extract the real news.

 

LOL!  Remember that time you posted two articles with false information from your biased sources about illegals being allowed to register to vote in California by getting a driver's license?  Yeah, I went straight to the source (the California DMV) and proved you wrong and you repeatedly ignored that.  You aren't interested in the truth.

You never proved anything, I probably lost interest once you posted a CNN or MSNBC link that said everything was peaches.

 

Go back and read it.  Better yet, I'll find it for you.  I didn't post a link to an article.  I posted links to the relevant information directly from the source (the California DMV's rules) proving that your articles were wrong.

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More than half of the drivers licenses issued in California were to illegals, and all you needed to vote there was a drivers license. http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/13/napolitano-california-to-allow-illegal-immigrants-to-vote-for-the-next-president-video/

 

Millions of people currently residing in California are illegal immigrants, they are not Americans.

 

You probably shouldn't believe everything (or anything) you read on The Daily Caller.  This is flat out incorrect.

 

California now has two types of driver's licenses, the regular one and the AB-60.  The AB-60 is clearly marked and cannot be used as an ID card for anything other than driving.  Nobody receiving an AB-60 is automatically registered to vote.

 

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/ab60

 

http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

 

The license is clearly marked as being for driving purposes only.

 

The new license includes a statement on the front that “Federal Limits Apply” and on the back that “This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes. This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.”

The wording on the front was in response to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s rejection of a previous DMV design. The federal government wants the special licenses to be obviously different from standard licenses because federal agencies do not recognize licenses for undocumented immigrants as valid identification. For example, they couldn’t be used as ID when passing through airport security.

 

The regular drivers license requires proof of citizenship and residency.  Here is the page with information on obtaining a regular driver's license.

 

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/dl/dl_info

 

Especially read the section titled "Birth date verification and legal presence (BD/LP) requirements", in which it states:

 

State law requires every applicant for an original California identification (ID) card and driver license to show verification of birth date and proof of legal presence within the United States to help safeguard the accuracy and integrity of departmental documents.

 

I will give you credit for one thing, though.  You effectively pointed out how deceitful and untrustworthy The Daily Caller and Breitbart are as news sources.  Good work!

 

Here you go, 8Titles.  See, no CNN and MSNBC needed!  I can do my own research.

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This is totally nuts. What happened to American patriotism?

https://t.co/pSSoVCqidQ

15% of republicans say Trump is too friendly to Russia.

In the poll of all Americans,

43% say Trump is too friendly to Russia

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/polling/russia-trump-confrontational-friendly/2017/01/17/98b93778-dcac-11e6-8902-610fe486791c_page.html

 

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More than half of the drivers licenses issued in California were to illegals, and all you needed to vote there was a drivers license. http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/13/napolitano-california-to-allow-illegal-immigrants-to-vote-for-the-next-president-video/

 

Millions of people currently residing in California are illegal immigrants, they are not Americans.

 

You probably shouldn't believe everything (or anything) you read on The Daily Caller.  This is flat out incorrect.

 

California now has two types of driver's licenses, the regular one and the AB-60.  The AB-60 is clearly marked and cannot be used as an ID card for anything other than driving.  Nobody receiving an AB-60 is automatically registered to vote.

 

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/ab60

 

http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

 

The license is clearly marked as being for driving purposes only.

 

The new license includes a statement on the front that “Federal Limits Apply” and on the back that “This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes. This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.”

The wording on the front was in response to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s rejection of a previous DMV design. The federal government wants the special licenses to be obviously different from standard licenses because federal agencies do not recognize licenses for undocumented immigrants as valid identification. For example, they couldn’t be used as ID when passing through airport security.

 

The regular drivers license requires proof of citizenship and residency.  Here is the page with information on obtaining a regular driver's license.

 

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/dl/dl_info

 

Especially read the section titled "Birth date verification and legal presence (BD/LP) requirements", in which it states:

 

State law requires every applicant for an original California identification (ID) card and driver license to show verification of birth date and proof of legal presence within the United States to help safeguard the accuracy and integrity of departmental documents.

 

I will give you credit for one thing, though.  You effectively pointed out how deceitful and untrustworthy The Daily Caller and Breitbart are as news sources.  Good work!

 

Here you go, 8Titles.  See, no CNN and MSNBC needed!  I can do my own research.

Do you think you'll ever find a state government that says "here's how illegals can vote process"?  That's like saying nobody under the age of 21 drinks alcohol because the law says so.

 

I'm sure you could dig up the New York voter registration laws that says non-citizens can't vote, but I already showed you that happens in masses.

 

Here's a link referencing a couple different studies that's more reality.  The Rasmussen study is alarming, 53% of Democrats feel illegals should vote.

 

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

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I'm actually encouraged by Trump's health care plan/goals.  It seems like it would be a significant improvement on the ACA.  Coverage for everyone, lower premiums, lower deductibles, and more choices as far as the plan you want and the doctor you prefer.  All this while getting rid of the mandate, keeping the ban on denying coverage for pre-existing conditions, and allowing children to stay on their parents' plans through the age of 26.  As long as he stays the course on those issues, I'm with The Donald on this one.

There is one huge problem with that. The GOP don't even know about his healthcare plans!!!

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/17/politics/congress-obamacare-trump/index.html?sr=fbCNN011717congress-obamacare-trump0459PMVODtopLink&linkId=33472298

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I consider various sources and piece together what I think really happened or determine what is important because media outlets all have ulterior motives, you have to be a thinker and extract the real news.

 

LOL!  Remember that time you posted two articles with false information from your biased sources about illegals being allowed to register to vote in California by getting a driver's license?  Yeah, I went straight to the source (the California DMV) and proved you wrong and you repeatedly ignored that.  You aren't interested in the truth.

 

I'll save you the time. From his posts, his trusted news "sources." I won't get into describing most of these websites since everyone is familiar with most of them and how legitimate these websites are with "news." I'm till shocked people actually read this stuff.

 

http://www.infowars.com - slap that tin foil hat on

http://www.breitbart.com - Used Briebart and Daily Caller as his "sources that illegals were allowed to vote

http://dailycaller.com -

http://www.thenewamerican.com - motto is "based on the US constitution so that freedom will not perish." ZERO bias here

http://allnewspipeline.com/index.php?pr=Home - Their articles are so bad and poorly written, they're laughable

http://canadafreepress.com - comparable to the NY Post but much worse

 

 

 

 

 

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More than half of the drivers licenses issued in California were to illegals, and all you needed to vote there was a drivers license. http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/13/napolitano-california-to-allow-illegal-immigrants-to-vote-for-the-next-president-video/

 

Millions of people currently residing in California are illegal immigrants, they are not Americans.

 

You probably shouldn't believe everything (or anything) you read on The Daily Caller.  This is flat out incorrect.

 

California now has two types of driver's licenses, the regular one and the AB-60.  The AB-60 is clearly marked and cannot be used as an ID card for anything other than driving.  Nobody receiving an AB-60 is automatically registered to vote.

 

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/ab60

 

http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

 

The license is clearly marked as being for driving purposes only.

 

The new license includes a statement on the front that “Federal Limits Apply” and on the back that “This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes. This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.”

The wording on the front was in response to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s rejection of a previous DMV design. The federal government wants the special licenses to be obviously different from standard licenses because federal agencies do not recognize licenses for undocumented immigrants as valid identification. For example, they couldn’t be used as ID when passing through airport security.

 

The regular drivers license requires proof of citizenship and residency.  Here is the page with information on obtaining a regular driver's license.

 

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/dl/dl_info

 

Especially read the section titled "Birth date verification and legal presence (BD/LP) requirements", in which it states:

 

State law requires every applicant for an original California identification (ID) card and driver license to show verification of birth date and proof of legal presence within the United States to help safeguard the accuracy and integrity of departmental documents.

 

I will give you credit for one thing, though.  You effectively pointed out how deceitful and untrustworthy The Daily Caller and Breitbart are as news sources.  Good work!

 

Here you go, 8Titles.  See, no CNN and MSNBC needed!  I can do my own research.

Do you think you'll ever find a state government that says "here's how illegals can vote process"?  That's like saying nobody under the age of 21 drinks alcohol because the law says so.

 

I'm sure you could dig up the New York voter registration laws that says non-citizens can't vote, but I already showed you that happens in masses.

 

Here's a link referencing a couple different studies that's more reality.  The Rasmussen study is alarming, 53% of Democrats feel illegals should vote.

 

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

 

You're still missing the point.  Your articles were factually incorrect.  Your sources are bad, which means you don't know as much as you think you do.

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More than half of the drivers licenses issued in California were to illegals, and all you needed to vote there was a drivers license. http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/13/napolitano-california-to-allow-illegal-immigrants-to-vote-for-the-next-president-video/

 

Millions of people currently residing in California are illegal immigrants, they are not Americans.

 

You probably shouldn't believe everything (or anything) you read on The Daily Caller.  This is flat out incorrect.

 

California now has two types of driver's licenses, the regular one and the AB-60.  The AB-60 is clearly marked and cannot be used as an ID card for anything other than driving.  Nobody receiving an AB-60 is automatically registered to vote.

 

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/ab60

 

http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

 

The license is clearly marked as being for driving purposes only.

 

The new license includes a statement on the front that “Federal Limits Apply” and on the back that “This card is not acceptable for official federal purposes. This license is issued only as a license to drive a motor vehicle. It does not establish eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits.”

The wording on the front was in response to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s rejection of a previous DMV design. The federal government wants the special licenses to be obviously different from standard licenses because federal agencies do not recognize licenses for undocumented immigrants as valid identification. For example, they couldn’t be used as ID when passing through airport security.

 

The regular drivers license requires proof of citizenship and residency.  Here is the page with information on obtaining a regular driver's license.

 

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/dl/dl_info

 

Especially read the section titled "Birth date verification and legal presence (BD/LP) requirements", in which it states:

 

State law requires every applicant for an original California identification (ID) card and driver license to show verification of birth date and proof of legal presence within the United States to help safeguard the accuracy and integrity of departmental documents.

 

I will give you credit for one thing, though.  You effectively pointed out how deceitful and untrustworthy The Daily Caller and Breitbart are as news sources.  Good work!

 

Here you go, 8Titles.  See, no CNN and MSNBC needed!  I can do my own research.

Do you think you'll ever find a state government that says "here's how illegals can vote process"?  That's like saying nobody under the age of 21 drinks alcohol because the law says so.

 

I'm sure you could dig up the New York voter registration laws that says non-citizens can't vote, but I already showed you that happens in masses.

 

Here's a link referencing a couple different studies that's more reality.  The Rasmussen study is alarming, 53% of Democrats feel illegals should vote.

 

http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/

 

You're still missing the point.  Your articles were factually incorrect.  Your sources are bad, which means you don't know as much as you think you do.

No they weren't, non-citizens are voting in masses, that is the point.

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This is totally nuts. What happened to American patriotism?

https://t.co/pSSoVCqidQ

15% of republicans say Trump is too friendly to Russia.

In the poll of all Americans,

43% say Trump is too friendly to Russia

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/polling/russia-trump-confrontational-friendly/2017/01/17/98b93778-dcac-11e6-8902-610fe486791c_page.html

 

It's still surprising to me how quickly Democrats and Republicans seem to have swapped positions when it comes to wanting “peace on earth.” Obama has brought the US to the brink of global thermonuclear war, over what? The failed foreign policy he and Hillary Clinton crafted caused this mess, not Russia. Their misguided “Russian reset” only emboldened and empowered Putin. At this point, we have nothing to gain by worsening relationships with Russia even further. From the get go, we really never had anything to gain, at all. So ask yourself – who benefits from this? Liberals are beating the war drum because they’re mad Trump beat Clinton.  The only people who possibly benefit, at all, from this controversy/conspiracy are Democrat politicians. America doesn’t benefit, Syrians don’t benefit, Ukrainians don’t benefit, etc. Democrats in DC benefit, and that’s the extent of it. Meanwhile, cooperation with Russia can lead to the destruction of ISIS, a reduction/end to the migrant crisis facing Europe, and more economic pressure on China, our only global economic competitor.

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What's interesting is that California has just under 2.7 million total undocumented immigrants.  Let's assume that every single one of them is over 18.  Let us further assume that they have 100% voter turnout and all of them illegally registered and voted.  Even in this crazy unlikely scenario.  HRC still wins popular vote by 300,000 votes.  But we know that even US citizens do not vote at a rate of 100%.  This back and forth could easily end with someone reviewing registered voter rolls (public record) to see if any undocumented immigrants are on there.  I bet that since the President Elect feels that this is a serious issue they will provide us with a report and prosecution once he takes office.  I won't hold my breath.

 

source for undocumented population:

http://www.ppic.org/main/publication_show.asp?i=818

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... when it comes to wanting “peace on earth.” Obama has brought the US to the brink of global thermonuclear war, over what? The failed foreign policy he and Hillary Clinton crafted caused this mess, not Russia. Their misguided “Russian reset” only emboldened and empowered Putin. At this point, we have nothing to gain by worsening relationships with Russia even further. From the get go, we really never had anything to gain, at all. So ask yourself – who benefits from this? Liberals are beating the war drum because they’re mad Trump beat Clinton.  The only people who possibly benefit, at all, from this controversy/conspiracy are Democrat politicians. America doesn’t benefit, Syrians don’t benefit, Ukrainians don’t benefit, etc....

Read this https://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,30962.msg835373.html#msg835373

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What's interesting is that California has just under 2.7 million total undocumented immigrants.  Let's assume that every single one of them is over 18.  Let us further assume that they have 100% voter turnout and all of them illegally registered and voted.  Even in this crazy unlikely scenario.  HRC still wins popular vote by 300,000 votes.  But we know that even US citizens do not vote at a rate of 100%.  This back and forth could easily end with someone reviewing registered voter rolls (public record) to see if any undocumented immigrants are on there.  I bet that since the President Elect feels that this is a serious issue they will provide us with a report and prosecution once he takes office.  I won't hold my breath.

 

source for undocumented population:

http://www.ppic.org/main/publication_show.asp?i=818

 

It's actually irrelevant.  He knew he would not win there.  He did not campaign there.  That's Presidential politics 101.  You can't change the rules retroactively.

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What sources of news do you generally trust and not consider "fake news"? Obviously you will do due diligence to verify things you learn.

 

8Titles[/member]

 

You're not going to get an answer.

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It's still surprising to me how quickly Democrats and Republicans seem to have swapped positions when it comes to wanting “peace on earth.” Obama has brought the US to the brink of global thermonuclear war, over what?

 

I think you have a thoughtful, kind and democratically elected man in Washington confused with a power-hungry madmen in Moscow who has killed his way into power and to stay in power and slaughtered hundreds of thousands of women and children in countries that were once Russia's allies because they no longer wanted to be Russia's allies. But yeah, let's blame one of the few decent leaders in this world for the actions of a thug psychopath who is about to put his little carrot-top b!tch into the White House.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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This is totally nuts. What happened to American patriotism?

https://t.co/pSSoVCqidQ

15% of republicans say Trump is too friendly to Russia.

In the poll of all Americans,

43% say Trump is too friendly to Russia

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/polling/russia-trump-confrontational-friendly/2017/01/17/98b93778-dcac-11e6-8902-610fe486791c_page.html

 

It's still surprising to me how quickly Democrats and Republicans seem to have swapped positions when it comes to wanting “peace on earth.” Obama has brought the US to the brink of global thermonuclear war, over what?

 

Wait, I thought Obama has "done nothing".  Which is the proper talking point you guys are being fed?

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^ Obama has done plenty. In fact, he’s done so much with his presidency over the last 8 years that the American people have voted his party out of a tremendous amount of positions throughout the country. He caused his party to lose hundreds of state legislature seats, and lose comfortable majorities in both the House and Senate. He won that Nobel peace prize (quote an accomplishment), and by his final year as president dropped a bomb every 20 minutes, on average, killing thousands of people. He placed his legacy upon Obamacare, which looks like it will be repealed any day now. He (and Clinton) brought about a failed Middle East policy that led to the formation and propagation of ISIS, and the replacement of docile dictators with radical Islamic governments. He slowed our recovery with his policy changes for Wall Street. He went all in campaigning against Brexit, and lost. He helped racial animosity in America reach pre-Civil Rights era heights – something I would have thought unthinkable just 8 years ago. Obama has done so much that you Democrats must appreciate, on some level, how Shakespearean his current tragedy must seem.  His party is not only in shambles and overwhelmingly replaced by Republicans, but he, himself, has been replaced by the very man that he likely hates more than any other Republican. It’d be entertaining if it weren’t “Sad!”

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You wrote all that with the expectation I or anyone would seriously read it?


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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You wrote all that with the expectation I or anyone would seriously read it?

 

Thank you for providing a response that so perfectly encapsulates American "liberalism" in 2017.

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