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The financial markets could be tanking in part due to the weakness of this memo that was going to save the President.

 

The markets are tanking today because of an expected Fed rate hike in March despite strong evidence of inflation occurring, just fyi.

 

There have been plenty of times when you'd expect a drop to occur due to something Trump did/said (or vice versa) and the markets have mostly tuned out politics for awhile now.


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^ Although market futures were predicting a 275 point drop which they thought would be mitigated by the good jobs report.  The market tanked this afternoon beyond the initial 200 point drop.

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The financial markets could be tanking in part due to the weakness of this memo that was going to save the President.

 

Remember that the NYT story that reported the the FISA warrant started with Popadopolous was disputed by Trumpies.  Nunes has verified it.  By acting indignant, Schiff made them want to release the memo.  Don't give Trump's legal counsel any credit.  I bet they were involved with this caper too.

 

Four separate judges reviewed the evidence for the FISA, yet we're supposed to continue believing there was a conspiracy.  Man, Nunes and the Trumpers really shat the big one on this.  We can only hope it hastens their downfall.

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Carter Page:

•2013: Questioned by US counter-intelligence officials about talks w/ a possible Russian spy

•2015: Russian official charged w/ posing as a diplomat while trying to recruit Page

•Mar 2016: Named by #Trump team as a foreign policy adviser

1/2

 

Carter Page:

•Jul 2016: Traveled to Moscow w/ Trump campaign approval; gave speech critical of US policy toward Russia

•Sep 2016: Trump campaign says Page was never part of team

•Mar 2017: Interviewed by FBI as part of Russia probe

•Nov 2017: House Intel Cmte interview

—END—

 

In September 2016, the trump camp claimed that Page was not a member of their team.  This destroys the central tenet of the Nunes memo.  Even FoxNews doesn't buy this. 

 

Yabo was right, they were better off if they never released this turd.

 

BTW Dow headed to a 650 point loss now.

 

 

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As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation.

 

 

When you've lost Trey Gowdy...

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As I have said repeatedly, I also remain 100 percent confident in Special Counsel Robert Mueller. The contents of this memo do not - in any way - discredit his investigation.

 

 

When you've lost Trey Gowdy...

 

Mueller's credibility and integrity is pretty much beyond reproach from both sides. It's for that reason that the precursors to the investigation are being attacked.

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-Rosenstein, a Republican appointed twice by GOP Presidents

-Wray, a Republican who gave $39k exclusively to GOP candidates

-Brand, a Republican who gave $37k exclusively to GOP candidates

 

Who is Trump so PO'd about?


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No, we won't. The misconception is thatmost American industrial jobs went overseas. Instead, most were taken by technology. The USA is actually producing more goods today than in the 1970s but with far fewer workers. Tariffs mean more robots building more stuff in America, stuff that Americans won't be able to afford.

 

We've been pushing people toward welding and machining trades... should we stop?  Apparently there's no tomorrow unless you're nursing or coding. 

 

I'm as concerned about the robots as you are, but manufacturing is still a core part of the human economy, locally and throughout the planet.  Beyond economics, there are strategic reasons we can't let our entire industrial base slip away.  We simply can't.  We'll get rolled, we won't have a country to argue about anymore.  The dismissive attitudes I'm hearing here are alarming, not just from a political standpoint.

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No, we won't. The misconception is thatmost American industrial jobs went overseas. Instead, most were taken by technology. The USA is actually producing more goods today than in the 1970s but with far fewer workers. Tariffs mean more robots building more stuff in America, stuff that Americans won't be able to afford.

 

We've been pushing people toward welding and machining trades... should we stop?  Apparently there's no tomorrow unless you're nursing or coding. 

 

I'm as concerned about the robots as you are, but manufacturing is still a core part of the human economy, locally and throughout the planet.  Beyond economics, there are strategic reasons we can't let our entire industrial base slip away.  We simply can't.  We'll get rolled, we won't have a country to argue about anymore.  The dismissive attitudes I'm hearing here are alarming, not just from a political standpoint.

 

No one is dismissing the importance of manufacturing to the economy.  They are just calling out Trump's policies regarding it as dumb, short-sighted and actually worse for that sector than doing nothing.

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327[/member] , high-skilled manufacturing jobs like welding absolutely are viable and important. I wasn't alive during the heyday of the rust belt so someone can correct me if I'm wrong but during those glory days, a lot of the jobs were pretty low-skilled.

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327[/member] , high-skilled manufacturing jobs like welding absolutely are viable and important. I wasn't alive during the heyday of the rust belt so someone can correct me if I'm wrong but during those glory days, a lot of the jobs were pretty low-skilled.

 

True then and true now.  For example, we had employees whose job was to catch hot ingot off the molds (wearing heavy gloves) and stack it.  They'd trade off with skimming the dross off the freshly poured metal.

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Trump's position on tariffs was neither a platitude nor a lie.  He has enacted them.  Clinton told the truth about her position and that position was rejected.  Trade policy is not about immigrants stealing jobs, it's about foreign powers stealing jobs.  Democrats used to take the side of American workers in that debate.  Now Trump is.

 

You mean the tariffs like on solar panels that will cost tens of thousands of jobs, make them more expensive for everyone and weaken the US trade position?  Those tariffs? 

 

I don't think most people had the first clue what Clinton's positions were.  They were too focused on fake email scandals and health scares. 

 

I never said trade policy was about immigrants.  And how exactly do foreign powers steal jobs? 

 

lol if you think Trump would give a taco bowl to an American worker, let alone base actual policy around helping them.  Looks like you fell for the propaganda. 

 

I mean the tariffs on washing machines.  The ones the Democratic base has been asking for.  Foreign powers steal US jobs by subsidizing their industries so they can dump goods on the world market below cost.  They also lead a race to the bottom on wages.  Clinton, like Obama, like her husband before her, and like most Republicans, took the free trade position.  That position allows foreign powers to keep doing what they're doing, and it is not popular with US workers.

 

Can you point to the Democratic base that wanted them?  Were they the same delusional people that believed Trump was going to revive American manufacturing to its glory days? 

 

China flooding the US with cheaper goods was a positive, because to do so China was being forced to subsidize its own manufacturing.  Those lower wages were a problem there, not in the US.  Meanwhile, Americans were able to buy cheaper goods than they otherwise would've been able to.  The tariffs aren't going to save or bring back US jobs, and they mean higher prices for everyone. 

 

So no theft of jobs, just other countries willing to pay their workers 12 cents a day building washing machines.  We should be more like them, I suppose.

 

 

No, we won't. The misconception is thatmost American industrial jobs went overseas. Instead, most were taken by technology. The USA is actually producing more goods today than in the 1970s but with far fewer workers. Tariffs mean more robots building more stuff in America, stuff that Americans won't be able to afford.

Assembly is still done overseas a lot.  That's as much a result of process documentation and error proofing design as anything else.  The tasks began to require even less skills.

 

Our automotive machined parts are mostly shipped to Mexico for assembly, and then come back as foreign components.  The same is true with castings, moldings, and stampings.  The firearms stuff is still assembled here for very obvious reasons.

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No, we won't. The misconception is thatmost American industrial jobs went overseas. Instead, most were taken by technology. The USA is actually producing more goods today than in the 1970s but with far fewer workers. Tariffs mean more robots building more stuff in America, stuff that Americans won't be able to afford.

 

Which is why the MAGA crowd prefers Wal Marts and the Chinese-made crap that line their shelves.  It's all very ironic actually....

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The FISA warrant on Carter Page was renewed three times. That means DOJ presented the court evidence that shows it got information corroborating the original warrant. The Steele dossier becomes irrelevant.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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^ the Steele dossier has always been irrelevant aside from the fact that it corroborated information that they already had.  Now Nunes is saying this is only the first memo. 

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327[/member] , high-skilled manufacturing jobs like welding absolutely are viable and important. I wasn't alive during the heyday of the rust belt so someone can correct me if I'm wrong but during those glory days, a lot of the jobs were pretty low-skilled.

 

If the jobs are important, the policies relating to them are important.  Many of the people holding those jobs, as well as the people who own those companies, are in favor of tariffs where necessary.  And they aren't quiet about it.  It was a big issue in the 2016 election and it will be again.

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But, they stand to benefit from the tariff. It may not be a case of needing the tariff but just asking for it solely for the profit. Unions and companies have both always done this. Tariffs are bad for consumers. Just like how getting rid of net neutrality is probably good for people who work at spectrum. I think jobs are important but I don't think we should penalize consumers to protect some peoples' jobs. I'm not going to say that I am always against tariffs but we should rightly be highly skeptical of them.

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Hankyroeh: "Matthew Pottinger was reported as saying in a recent closed-door meeting with US experts on Korean Peninsula issues that a limited strike on the North 'might help in the midterm elections.'"

https://t.co/zm8QrkfRrD


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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The FISA warrant on Carter Page was renewed three times. That means DOJ presented the court evidence that shows it got information corroborating the original warrant. The Steele dossier becomes irrelevant.

Just the opposite. Banana Republic fan

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Look in the mirror. Banana Republic is what this once-great country has become with a sycophantic,  bombastic buffoon for prez who demands obedience to his warped sense of reality. Only Trumpidiots swoon for his chest thumping, self-serving hollow nationalism at the expense of the rule of law. You're all pathetic children for licking his tail. Wake the f--k up.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Look in the mirror. Banana Republic is what this once-great country has become with a sycophantic,  bombastic buffoon for prez who demands obedience to his warped sense of reality. Only Trumpidiots swoon for his chest thumping, self-serving hollow nationalism at the expense of the rule of law. You're all pathetic children for licking his tail. Wake the f--k up.

This should get Trump impeached! LOL

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let the record show, that no Trumpers have answered Yabo's questions.  They swoop in to make sill comments and leave.

Let the record show you have no evidence of who anyone voted for. And people can comment here. Win with ideas.

When did Urban Ohio become off limits for non liberals, high taxation fools, and marxists?

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This should get Trump impeached! LOL

 

No, Trump's money-laundering, treason and obstruction of justice should earn him prison. Your poor judgment gets you Donald Trump and a nation that will need decades of newly rediscovered respect for morality, laws and decency to cleanse Trump's excrement off it.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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This should get Trump impeached! LOL

 

No, Trump's money-laundering, treason and obstruction of justice should earn him prison. Your poor judgment gets you Donald Trump and a nation that will need decades of newly rediscovered respect for morality, laws and decency to cleanse Trump's excrement off it.

 

Yep that should do it! LOL He just a cigar and Monica.

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Nope, Trumpidiots are the Monica's. Now go kneel before your Dearest Leader.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Nope, Trumpidiots are the Monica's. Now go kneel before your Dearest Leader.

Just hoping for Venezuela here, why not? Paradise.

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It's getting there fast.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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It's getting there fast.

Sure is, GDP Growth, Stock Market, massive wage increases, I can't get food at Krogers LOL. Your left wing politics lead to genocide. The USA is the leader against this, The USA is the leader of food production. You are a cry baby.

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^ it's a good thing that right wing politics never leads to genocide.  Something about extreme views and all.

Always leftist politics lead to genocide. All of them.

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^ most ignorant statement you've ever made and that is saying a lot.

Nope you are ignorant. All of them leftists and socialists.

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Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce[3] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum

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Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism,[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and control of industry and commerce[3] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.[4] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism and anarchism, fascism is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum

the opposite of the USA, thanks for proving my point.

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