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^ I've been involved in several projects that require those restroom trailers. If you've ever seen a construction trailer, it's like that, but it is built out on the interior with bathrooms.  $7100 for three weeks for one of those is pretty average pricing, it's probably an all-in cost that included servicing (hauling off the waste once or twice weekly). They're only "luxury" if your comparing them to typical port-o-johns, otherwise they're decidedly mundane and typical.

 

In short, this is yet another example of "fake news." USA Today is taking a total and complete non-story and spinning it to try and make Trump look bad. This is why people don't trust the media.

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^^^It clearly is not fake news. It isn't earth shattering news.  It just is pointing out the more funds that are being spent on trump at trump owned complexes. So a whole entourage of people will be spending government funds at these locations.  That money goes right back into his pocket.  Don't kid yourself if you think that he is saving the country money by staying at his own resorts.

He continues to golf on the country's dime. A pure hypocrite. 

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Speaking of tangible consequences to Trump's presidency (and the cancer of irrational conservatism), we had city mayors in coastal Texas stating that people didn't have to evacuate for Hurricane Harvey because government shouldn't tell them what to do and people should do what they want.  Forecasts call for a major cat 3 or 4 landfall with rainfall amounts exceeding 40"-50" in places.  This has the potential to be a huge disaster, both in terms of people being dumb because the reputations of the media/science/government have been completely undermined, and also because we have a president who is undoubtedly going to seriously botch the relief response a al Bush 2005 or worse.

 

Looks like you fell for fake news.

 

http://abc13.com/weather/mayor-squashes-social-media-rumors-about-harvey/2338991/

 

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/hurricane-harvey-forecast-gulf-coast-texas-louisiana

 

"All residents of Houston and surrounding areas should rely solely on proven information sources, including the National Weather Service and the city Office of Emergency Management, to decide how to prepare for the heavy rainfall expected here," Turner said.

 

They are/were trying to prevent on "over panic" due to fake posts about 50+ inches of rain, 3 days without power, etc.

Everything that I have read says impacted areas, 10-30, and the storm will site for days. That = epic flooding.

 

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In short, this is yet another example of "fake news."

 

No, it's not.  That is literally what they are spending.  It'd be fake if they reported a wrong number.

 

It's not "news" at all, which is what makes it "fake news." If they reported that three secret service agents spent $10 each on lunch, it would be "fake news" because it is a mundane, ordinary fact masquerading as a news story, often formated and commented upon in a manner that leads the viewer to a foregone, and typically incorrect conclusion. "Fake News" is about more than outright falsities - it's a much deeper concept that touches on various parts of modern day propaganda.

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^Newspapers have forever done this. It is up to the reader to decide whether it is pertinent or not.  With that number for renting out portopotties in the NYC area for 3 weeks that probably isn't bad. 

  The point is that Trump complained high and low that Obama was taking exorbitant vacations on the country's dime and I believe Trump has gone golfing in 7 months more than Obama did in 8 years. He's blown through the secret service budget.

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^ I've been involved in several projects that require those restroom trailers. If you've ever seen a construction trailer, it's like that, but it is built out on the interior with bathrooms.  $7100 for three weeks for one of those is pretty average pricing, it's probably an all-in cost that included servicing (hauling off the waste once or twice weekly). They're only "luxury" if your comparing them to typical port-o-johns, otherwise they're decidedly mundane and typical.

 

In short, this is yet another example of "fake news." USA Today is taking a total and complete non-story and spinning it to try and make Trump look bad. This is why people don't trust the media.

 

I'm not arguing the pricing, I too have worked with them and appreciate your expert "analysis" (get it?).  But tell me you have no issue with the Secret Service blowing thru their budget in 8 months after Trump railed on Obama's travel and golf for 8 years? 

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There's isn't a single thing this villain does that's good. Nothing.

 

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"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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ACLU National‏Verified account @ACLU  5m5 minutes ago

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With his pardon of Arpaio, President Trump has chosen lawlessness over justice, division over unity, hurt over healing.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Racists supporting racists


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Racists supporting racists

Misdemeanor, nor even a felony.

 

1) 95% of arrest warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants.

2) 75% of most wanted in LA, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal immigrants.

3) 53% of burglaries in CA, NV, AZ, NM and TX are by illegals.

4) 25% of CA prisoners are Mexican nationals (legal or illegal).

 

Article also notes that Clinton, Obama and Biden all voted for a wall in Yuma, Arizona in 2007 that reduced illegal border crossings by 70%.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-...le/2632500

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He pardoned a man convicted of contempt for racial profiling.

Illegal Danish Grandmothers watch out for them in Arizona.

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Trump's political abuse of pardon power reminds me of the saying of Óscar Benavides: "For my friends, anything. For my enemies, the law." https://t.co/RfvURxy0H5


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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Arpaio was convicted of defying court order to stop violating #4thAmendment. It's a pardon of a govt official who ignored Bill of Rights.


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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^So you are cool with racial profiling of Latinos?

They are illegals from C. America, who are you supposed to profile?

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Arpaio was convicted of defying court order to stop violating #4thAmendment. It's a pardon of a govt official who ignored Bill of Rights.

And a misdemeanor. Clinton and Obama pardoned terrorists.

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^So, every brown person who looks Latino should be stopped and questioned? That's essentially what Sheriff Joe was doing. A lot of legal Americans were stopped, held, questioned just because they looked Latino.

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^So, every brown person who looks Latino should be stopped and questioned? That's essentially what Sheriff Joe was doing. A lot of legal Americans were stopped, held, questioned just because they looked Latino.

That is racist. Spanish speakers are more than English, more diverse, more ethnic groups. When you have 15 Million people illegally in the USA, mainly from C. America some profiling is smart.

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If you're not disgusted enough: read this on how Arpaio's office botched 400 sex-crime cases, many involving kids  https://t.co/w03j8ab6XF


"Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you respond." -- Coach Lou Holtz

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If you're not disgusted enough: read this on how Arpaio's office botched 400 sex-crime cases, many involving kids  https://t.co/w03j8ab6XF

Yep mostly illegals from C. America raping.

A total of 32 convicted sexual predators said to be living on Long Island without documentation were arrested by enforcement and removal officers with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement during a 10-day sting called “Operation Sex Offender Alien Removal,” or “SOAR,” which ended last Thursday, August 3.

http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/General-Interest-Southampton/529325/ICE-Agents-Target-Sex-Offenders-On-Long-Island-Including-Hampton-Bays-And-East-Hampton

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1) 95% of arrest warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants.

2) 75% of most wanted in LA, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal immigrants.

3) 53% of burglaries in CA, NV, AZ, NM and TX are by illegals.

4) 25% of CA prisoners are Mexican nationals (legal or illegal).

 

Can you provide the source for this data?

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1) 95% of arrest warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants.

2) 75% of most wanted in LA, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal immigrants.

3) 53% of burglaries in CA, NV, AZ, NM and TX are by illegals.

4) 25% of CA prisoners are Mexican nationals (legal or illegal).

 

Can you provide the source for this data?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-is-right-on-the-border-wall-and-the-numbers-back-him-up/article/2632500

10 years ago 98% of murder warrants in LA County were for illegal aliens. Probably the same now.

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If you're not disgusted enough: read this on how Arpaio's office botched 400 sex-crime cases, many involving kids  https://t.co/w03j8ab6XF

Yep mostly illegals from C. America raping.

A total of 32 convicted sexual predators said to be living on Long Island without documentation were arrested by enforcement and removal officers with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement during a 10-day sting called “Operation Sex Offender Alien Removal,” or “SOAR,” which ended last Thursday, August 3.

http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/General-Interest-Southampton/529325/ICE-Agents-Target-Sex-Offenders-On-Long-Island-Including-Hampton-Bays-And-East-Hampton

 

i don't think ice is going to be rounding up non-illegals.

 

not yet anyway.

 

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1) 95% of arrest warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants.

2) 75% of most wanted in LA, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal immigrants.

3) 53% of burglaries in CA, NV, AZ, NM and TX are by illegals.

4) 25% of CA prisoners are Mexican nationals (legal or illegal).

 

Can you provide the source for this data?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-is-right-on-the-border-wall-and-the-numbers-back-him-up/article/2632500

10 years ago 98% of murder warrants in LA County were for illegal aliens. Probably the same now.

 

At least some of those claims have been disproven. Washington Examiner is garbage.

 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/taxes.asp

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WaPo,

 

 

The Americas

Trump wants to deport MS-13 gang members. El Salvador is dreading their return.

SAN SALVADOR — The Trump administration’s push to deport more Central American gang membershas alarmed officials here who fear that the returning gangsters could exacerbate violence in one of the deadliest countries in the hemisphere.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/trump-wants-to-deport-ms-13-gang-members-el-salvador-is-dreading-their-return/2017/05/24/1e0ec5ae-39bf-11e7-a59b-26e0451a96fd_story.html

 

From May,

They are having emergency government meetings there.

 

If you live in Cincy area yeah they are nice in Price Hill or Covington. Not the case elsewhere in the USA.

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Wow–this thread about Arpaio by his home state newspaper

 

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^So, every brown person who looks Latino should be stopped and questioned? That's essentially what Sheriff Joe was doing. A lot of legal Americans were stopped, held, questioned just because they looked Latino.

 

Sadly it happens in that state in more areas than Sheriff Joe's jurisdiction.  I have a friend who gets pulled over frequently in the Phoenix area.  His wife, whom he just laid down $70k for an Escalade, gets pulled over once a week--just for being a Latino in an expensive ride.

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^So, every brown person who looks Latino should be stopped and questioned? That's essentially what Sheriff Joe was doing. A lot of legal Americans were stopped, held, questioned just because they looked Latino.

That is racist. Spanish speakers are more than English, more diverse, more ethnic groups. When you have 15 Million people illegally in the USA, mainly from C. America some profiling is smart.

 

I would venture that most white Americans think "Latino" means brown people.  Most Spanish-speaking people are also not white or at least of mixed-race.  Mexicans certainly are, and we all know that's who most people are talking about when they refer to people being "illegals". 

 

Look at  you, advocating violating the Constitution to serve some racist agenda- and it IS absolutely racist.  Deplorable.

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^^Also it is mestizo indian, which are not that dissimilar from Indian tribes in the US. I think MGM is confusing things like a lot of right wingers do to make a very complex subject easy to chew on in their simplest form. This is why people say a little knowledge is dangerous. So all brown people near the border are bad. They are all MS 13 or whatever the gang is.  That is like saying all the fighters in Syria are either with Assad or are AlQueda. Btw, that is pretty much the Russian opinion.  So one would be embracing a Russian viewpoint as well.

  I don't have a problem in building a wall or fence in some commonly used crossings, especially in urban areas.

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^^Also it is mestizo indian, which are not that dissimilar from Indian tribes in the US. I think MGM is confusing things like a lot of right wingers do to make a very complex subject easy to chew on in their simplest form. This is why people say a little knowledge is dangerous. So all brown people near the border are bad. They are all MS 13 or whatever the gang is.  That is like saying all the fighters in Syria are either with Assad or are AlQueda. Btw, that is pretty much the Russian opinion.  So one would be embracing a Russian viewpoint as well.

  I don't have a problem in building a wall or fence in some commonly used crossings, especially in urban areas.

 

He's not just talking about "illegals" or actual gang members.  He quite literally stated that "virtually all" and the "vast majority" of violent crime in states like California and Arizona is caused by people of Latin origin regardless of status.  Ignoring that it's just a ridiculous and false statement to make, it's deeply rooted in racist ideology and totally disgusting.

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I'm all for considering racial and demographic data in assessing crime patterns. I think it is terribly dishonest for progressive people to demand scientific accountability for one issue, but ignore another because it's a sensitive topic. BUT if you want to be rational, you have to play by the rules. Ethnicity is but one data type. Crime follows drugs and poverty. The Mexican border has lots of both:

 

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With huge patterns like this, it's not rational to isolate ethnicity as the most important factor in crime. You have to account for other variables before you can do that. Namely, America has a totally broken drug policy and an ever-increasing income inequality index. If we had an evenly distributed low GINI and a decriminalized drug policy, and we still saw lots of spontaneous violence from specific ethnic groups, then it would be rational to focus on that. But it's not right now, and quite frankly it probably never has been in America.

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I'm all for considering racial and demographic data in assessing crime patterns. I think it is terribly dishonest for progressive people to demand scientific accountability for one issue, but ignore another because it's a sensitive topic. BUT if you want to be rational, you have to play by the rules. Ethnicity is but one data type. Crime follows drugs and poverty. The Mexican border has lots of both:

 

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map_poverty.gif

 

With huge patterns like this, it's not rational to isolate ethnicity as the most important factor in crime. You have to account for other variables before you can do that. Namely, America has a totally broken drug policy and an ever-increasing income inequality index. If we had an evenly distributed low GINI and a decriminalized drug policy, and we still saw lots of spontaneous violence from specific ethnic groups, then it would be rational to focus on that. But it's not right now, and quite frankly it probably never has been in America.

 

Trump's America on full display right here.

 

Explain then, in scientific terms and evidence, how ethnicity or skin color is a specific, contributing factor in crime rather than environmental conditions like education, poverty and discriminatory conditions such as racial bias in the justice system.  I can't wait for this.

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I'm all for considering racial and demographic data in assessing crime patterns. I think it is terribly dishonest for progressive people to demand scientific accountability for one issue, but ignore another because it's a sensitive topic. BUT if you want to be rational, you have to play by the rules. Ethnicity is but one data type. Crime follows drugs and poverty. The Mexican border has lots of both:

 

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map_poverty.gif

 

With huge patterns like this, it's not rational to isolate ethnicity as the most important factor in crime. You have to account for other variables before you can do that. Namely, America has a totally broken drug policy and an ever-increasing income inequality index. If we had an evenly distributed low GINI and a decriminalized drug policy, and we still saw lots of spontaneous violence from specific ethnic groups, then it would be rational to focus on that. But it's not right now, and quite frankly it probably never has been in America.

 

Trump's America on full display right here.

 

Explain then, in scientific terms and evidence, how ethnicity or skin color is a specific, contributing factor in crime rather than environmental conditions like education, poverty and discriminatory conditions such as racial bias in the justice system.  I can't wait for this.

 

Actually, your reaction is a perfect example of the irrational left. Absolutely nothing I said indicated that I have a predisposed belief to ethnicity being a prime predictor of criminality. I literally said I don't have this data to show you. So you'll have to keep waiting.

 

I'm saying I would, as a scientist, be open to the possibility if I felt that such a variable had been isolated and was valid. Because I pride myself on being open to all rational possibilities, and weighing data as it comes in. That's why I believe in man made climate change. It's also a big reason why I didn't vote for Trump.

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